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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:10 AsnSensation wrote: ohm so I justplayed a dominion ashe game and I'm 100% sure that if you have manamune + q active, an autoattack doublestacks it it does | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:23 mr_tolkien wrote: Tbh I want to post well thought-out messages very often but I feel like there is no place for it. GD is really nice but things just go too fast and un-noticed. Why would I take 2 hours+ to write an interesting post when nobody will be able to find it again anyways ? It will spark discussion for 2/3 pages at most and then nobody will be able to find it again. I bet if you created an individual thread regarding whatever topic you wanted to discuss on the strategy forum, people will read it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:23 mr_tolkien wrote: Tbh I want to post well thought-out messages very often but I feel like there is no place for it. GD is really nice but things just go too fast and un-noticed. Why would I take 2 hours+ to write an interesting post when nobody will be able to find it again anyways ? It will spark discussion for 2/3 pages at most and then nobody will be able to find it again. If you feel your post adds a lot of info; could always make it its own thread. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:30 kainzero wrote: I bet if you created an individual thread regarding whatever topic you wanted to discuss on the strategy forum, people will read it. LOL I made 1 topic in strategy forums but Caller stole it and fucked it up beyond recognition, instantly ending all discussion hahaha | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:32 Scip wrote: LOL I made 1 topic in strategy forums but Craton stole it and fucked it up beyond recognition, instantly ending all discussion hahaha I'm still right, though. People read it, lol. =) | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
So I'm not too big on the ranked soloqueue thing, I used to almost not do it at all and just play 5s. Thing is because of some dirty backstabing this is no longer an option. So i have been soloqueueing a bit and I find myself in odd soloqueue situations sometimes. Since I'm not very good, most the games i play is like a bit of laning then everyone randomly rotate mid and aram it up for a bit, when we already destroyed their tower... So like my inner self is like "there's no point of being there, we can instead pressure top or something else", like there is nothing mid for us to take, the enemy team is mia and the team just wants to group there. So i'm like meh, I rather you know group with them and not do anything for a bit instead of them being caught 4v5. Keep in mind I still think it's a terrible decision being there, but it would be even worst not to be with the team. And then, the soloqueue magic happens, the enemy team pops out of the fog of war and come to fight us mid... for absolutly no reason either. We have no tower to defend, they have no tower to defend, but there's just this gentleman agreement to all come and duke it out midlane... SO we fight, and win the teamfight, making that "call" of going midlane a successfull one, but at the same time, it was only good cause the enemy team was equally as retarded as us.. So how u guys deal with the situation? Is my gut feeling complelty mistaken and I should go fight mid for the hell of it? Should I ditch the team to make the strategic choice i feel is better, but risk the rest of the team getting cauht like retards? I guess that climbing a bit in ranking will make this situation uncomon, but making decisions of fighting like this in the middle of nowhere for absolutly no objectives and getting rewarded for it feel like it actually turns you into a worst player, but allow you to climb the ladder. tl;dr: follow a bad call with the rest of your team? or ignore it cause it's bad and ping them back furiously knowing that if the enemy is retarded the call will work anyway? | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:10 AsnSensation wrote: ohm so I justplayed a dominion ashe game and I'm 100% sure that if you have manamune + q active, an autoattack doublestacks it Tear and its upgrades aren't actually on a 3 second cooldown, but rather they're coded so they can trigger up to 2 times every 6 seconds.* This is how Manamune can trigger twice on Ashe Q+Auto. * is this how it really works? "2 times every 6 seconds" is subtly different from "gains a charge every 3 seconds, can store up to two charges, AAs/mana expenditures consume a charge to give +4 mana" | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:46 SagaZ wrote: A question about the so called "soloqueue mentality" So I'm not too big on the ranked soloqueue thing, I used to almost not do it at all and just play 5s. Thing is because of some dirty backstabing this is no longer an option. So i have been soloqueueing a bit and I find myself in odd soloqueue situations sometimes. Since I'm not very good, most the games i play is like a bit of laning then everyone randomly rotate mid and aram it up for a bit, when we already destroyed their tower... So like my inner self is like "there's no point of being there, we can instead pressure top or something else", like there is nothing mid for us to take, the enemy team is mia and the team just wants to group there. So i'm like meh, I rather you know group with them and not do anything for a bit instead of them being caught 4v5. Keep in mind I still think it's a terrible decision being there, but it would be even worst not to be with the team. And then, the soloqueue magic happens, the enemy team pops out of the fog of war and come to fight us mid... for absolutly no reason either. We have no tower to defend, they have no tower to defend, but there's just this gentleman agreement to all come and duke it out midlane... SO we fight, and win the teamfight, making that "call" of going midlane a successfull one, but at the same time, it was only good cause the enemy team was equally as retarded as us.. So how u guys deal with the situation? Is my gut feeling complelty mistaken and I should go fight mid for the hell of it? Should I ditch the team to make the strategic choice i feel is better, but risk the rest of the team getting cauht like retards? I guess that climbing a bit in ranking will make this situation uncomon, but making decisions of fighting like this in the middle of nowhere for absolutly no objectives and getting rewarded for it feel like it actually turns you into a worst player, but allow you to climb the ladder. tl;dr: follow a bad call with the rest of your team? or ignore it cause it's bad and ping them back furiously knowing that if the enemy is retarded the call will work anyway? Better to follow a bad call as 5 than to go against it as 1 | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:55 Nos- wrote: Better to follow a bad call as 5 than to go against it as 1 Completely disagree. How can you win more than any bad player if you follow bad calls just as they do? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:46 SagaZ wrote: Momentum is pretty important for that, so if you can get people to listen to you and make calls to keep them busy you can avoid that. I have it a bit less now, but until I hit mid-Silver I (and even then till recently) it was pretty common, and I thought it a bit annoying because there'd only be people chilling mid until a big wave forms top or bot, someone has to go deal with it, and the other team gets to push. It's also often associated with poor warding, making it risky to go get top or bot outer if they're still up because you can get flanked/intercepted, or since they're chilling mid the enemy team can just push to your inner mid tower. I found that rotating top and/or bot as soon as possible to get those towers down is pretty important (or just holding your mid while somebody pushes the enemy tower once he's lost his and they rotate, easier bot usually), and trying to get the team to fight for objectives, like ward nash and the area between mid and drake, and move toward the drake when it's there, see if the enemy team tries to contest, etc. Then you can also ward deeper in their jungle (say, the buffs) once the outer towers are down, tell people to push side lanes, and try to catch enemy champions isolated. Personal impression here is that people feel that they need to "do something" in an active sense, as in fighting/trying to push/etc., they usually have trouble seeing how important posturing and looking for opportunities can be, despite it being basically "remain out of vision and ward their buffs/jungle paths". Timing stuff like that and drakes can help finding an objective. (Fwiw, I have trouble myself once all outer towers are down, drake is unavailable and there's no clear lead like 10 kills and 2 drakes ahead with similar farm. Need to work on that, there's probably 1. ward their jungle and use buffs as additional objectives 2. learn to assess both team's current strength better, and don't be afraid to push when yours is the strongest.) | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:46 SagaZ wrote: A question about the so called "soloqueue mentality" So I'm not too big on the ranked soloqueue thing, I used to almost not do it at all and just play 5s. Thing is because of some dirty backstabing this is no longer an option. So i have been soloqueueing a bit and I find myself in odd soloqueue situations sometimes. Since I'm not very good, most the games i play is like a bit of laning then everyone randomly rotate mid and aram it up for a bit, when we already destroyed their tower... So like my inner self is like "there's no point of being there, we can instead pressure top or something else", like there is nothing mid for us to take, the enemy team is mia and the team just wants to group there. So i'm like meh, I rather you know group with them and not do anything for a bit instead of them being caught 4v5. Keep in mind I still think it's a terrible decision being there, but it would be even worst not to be with the team. And then, the soloqueue magic happens, the enemy team pops out of the fog of war and come to fight us mid... for absolutly no reason either. We have no tower to defend, they have no tower to defend, but there's just this gentleman agreement to all come and duke it out midlane... SO we fight, and win the teamfight, making that "call" of going midlane a successfull one, but at the same time, it was only good cause the enemy team was equally as retarded as us.. So how u guys deal with the situation? Is my gut feeling complelty mistaken and I should go fight mid for the hell of it? Should I ditch the team to make the strategic choice i feel is better, but risk the rest of the team getting cauht like retards? I guess that climbing a bit in ranking will make this situation uncomon, but making decisions of fighting like this in the middle of nowhere for absolutly no objectives and getting rewarded for it feel like it actually turns you into a worst player, but allow you to climb the ladder. tl;dr: follow a bad call with the rest of your team? or ignore it cause it's bad and ping them back furiously knowing that if the enemy is retarded the call will work anyway? spam pings and chat like a retard if you're really trying hard to win otherwise just do w\e the fuck u want ie: IM GOING BOT BACK OFF/DONT ENGAGE MID then spam v ping 5 times sometimes they wont lsiten but more often than not people will listen since 1. they have no idea wtf to do 2. they might as well listen to the first/only call they ehar | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:55 Nos- wrote: Better to follow a bad call as 5 than to go against it as 1 | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:03 TheYango wrote: Most of the well-known Diamond posters don't initiate discussions, IMO--they just chime in when someone else says something stupid. Capricious got tons of love during Best Riven NA! | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:58 Scip wrote: Completely disagree. How can you win more than any bad player if you follow bad calls just as they do? the best thing to do is cut your losses and start calling the shots in the game asap | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On June 22 2013 06:16 LaNague wrote: i would not spam chat, only pings, they dont show in tribunal. nothing wrong with telling your team what to do o_O at worst they disagree and flame u, in which case it's not like you're getting banned | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 22 2013 06:15 zer0das wrote: Sometimes you just have to say "what you're advocating is stupid and here's why." If you give a good reason, the rest of your team will probably ignore the person who is advocating it, especially if you refuse to go along with it. More likely is you'll get banned really lol.I did.I used to do this but now I just troll people and sometimes flame. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On June 22 2013 06:20 nafta wrote: More likely is you'll get banned really lol.I did.I used to do this but now I just troll people and sometimes flame. Why would you get banned? If you're giving intelligent reasons, no one on tribunal is going to hold that against you as long as you're not toxic. | ||
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