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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On June 22 2013 03:56 AsmodeusXI wrote: I can tell you it won't be Alaric... there's a word limit. + Show Spoiler +  Would have been quicker to invoke the quality of content instead, since it also works for my once-in-a-while short posts. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 22 2013 03:54 WaveofShadow wrote: You bastards who came over here from Reddit. WHAT MANNER OF WITCHCRAFT HAVE YOU BROUGHT WITH YOU Seriously though, as 'sell-out-y' as it appears, decent enough way for TL to make money. Pretty transparent about it too which is nice. I'm kind of interested to see what the 'gold posts' if any crop up in this subforum will be. I knew not the consequences of my actions. Also we clearly need to start a LoL GD on the TL+ forum just to stir up trouble. | ||
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On June 22 2013 03:50 WaveofShadow wrote: So.....TL+? Was about to post something and that new little button next to "PM" caught my eye. Lol, the exact same thing happened to me. On June 22 2013 03:49 Dgiese wrote: The dynamic that I'm envisaging is the point where a fight turn from 'Blue Ez defensively kiting -> Enemies chasing Ez' to 'Enemies run from Ez -> Blue Ez chases enemies'. At such a point it seems that Ashe offers an excellent response, and diminishes the effectiveness of Blue Ez significantly, considered that Blue Ez relies on a drawn out fight, culminating in him chasing down an enemy team, to compensate for his lack of straight up damage. Ashe seems like an effective way to negate a significant portion of Blue Ez's utility, rendering the build ultimately lacklustre given that it already sacrifices damage in favor of utility. That being said, I might be missing something in their late game interaction. 1) insulting the other users who responded to your post is not doing any favours for you 2) you are vastly overcomplicating things. Ashe is a hypercarry, because her slow once she hits a item/level threshold is incredibly difficult to deal with, unless you blow her up right away. A team with ashe on it should be peeling for ashe, not chasing down ez (this is assuming you're an auto attacking ashe) because she will kill everyone on it, not because of high damage output like vayne/trist/kog, but because it's basically impossible to escape, which translates into a lot of damage actually done over time. Thus, Ez's lategame interaction with ashe is basically the same as it is with all the other hyper carries. Kog/vayne/trist/ashe will kill your team, because you have been outscaled. You can basically ignore ez until their tanks are dead because you will shred their front line signifcantly faster than ez will be able to shred yours. The only difference that you have the possibly of catching him with an arrow, but if you're talking LCS play, that's not all that likely (as seen in the WU LCS game) Ez's midgame with interaction with ashe...is about the same as the other hypercarries, in that he's super annoying because he can kite your team around whereas you're in a lot of danger of being blown up because you can't melt the tanks super quickly yet. Ashe is not any more a solution to Ez than trist/vayne/kog are, because picking her is basically picking a late game champ into the early/mid/early late game (the spike between your finished six item build and theirs) champ Ez, and there are a ton of options that are available if you wish to do that. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 22 2013 04:15 onlywonderboy wrote: I knew not the consequences of my actions. Also we clearly need to start a LoL GD on the TL+ forum just to stir up trouble. This of course assumes many of us plan on becoming TL+ members.... | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 22 2013 04:15 WaveofShadow wrote: This of course assumes many of us plan on becoming TL+ members.... It only takes a few to start a revolution. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On June 22 2013 04:15 onlywonderboy wrote: I knew not the consequences of my actions. Also we clearly need to start a LoL GD on the TL+ forum just to stir up trouble. There is one already. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 22 2013 04:23 LaNague wrote: oh, for a moment i thought my report button will go away, but all is well. I did a double-take when I read this because I couldn't see a report button at first. Then I realized that it was Cheep and owb on my screen at the time. Sucks I can't report them. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On June 22 2013 04:15 Vanka wrote: Lol, the exact same thing happened to me. 1) insulting the other users who responded to your post is not doing any favours for you 2) you are vastly overcomplicating things. Ashe is a hypercarry, because her slow once she hits a item/level threshold is incredibly difficult to deal with, unless you blow her up right away. A team with ashe on it should be peeling for ashe, not chasing down ez (this is assuming you're an auto attacking ashe) because she will kill everyone on it, not because of high damage output like vayne/trist/kog, but because it's basically impossible to escape, which translates into a lot of damage actually done over time. Thus, Ez's lategame interaction with ashe is basically the same as it is with all the other hyper carries. Kog/vayne/trist/ashe will kill your team, because you have been outscaled. You can basically ignore ez until their tanks are dead because you will shred their front line signifcantly faster than ez will be able to shred yours. The only difference that you have the possibly of catching him with an arrow, but if you're talking LCS play, that's not all that likely (as seen in the WU LCS game) Ez's midgame with interaction with ashe...is about the same as the other hypercarries, in that he's super annoying because he can kite your team around whereas you're in a lot of danger of being blown up because you can't melt the tanks super quickly yet. Ashe is not any more a solution to Ez than trist/vayne/kog are, because picking her is basically picking a late game champ into the early/mid/early late game (the spike between your finished six item build and theirs) champ Ez, and there are a ton of options that are available if you wish to do that. Thanks for your input, that was the kind of well thought out answer I was looking for, and I think you're right I probably was overcomplicating the situation. My apologies if I came across as insulting, your post was actually relevant and insightful so I didn't mean to insult you. As for the other posts, they were irrelevant to what I was asking, but again, wasn't trying to insult them, they were just giving me answers to questions I didn't ask. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
Oops, didn't see that the other day. Well then, time to only post there now, bye guys, it's been a blast. On June 22 2013 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote: I did a double-take when I read this because I couldn't see a report button at first. Then I realized that it was Cheep and owb on my screen at the time. Sucks I can't report them. Suck it, Wave <3 | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 22 2013 04:32 Scip wrote: Ok guys what does the TL+ mean? I saw glider have something above his posts and clicked it and saw a dollar/euro sign and fucking PANICKED and hardreseted my computer. What is it about? All your answers are but a click away! Edit: Basically you aren't losing anything, but if you like TL enough to throw a couple extra bucks a month at it you can get some nice perks. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Isn't it? | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On June 22 2013 04:34 onlywonderboy wrote: All your answers are but a click away! Edit: Basically you aren't losing anything, but if you like TL enough to throw a couple extra bucks a month at it you can get some nice perks. I don't like anything to throw any extra bucks at anything, as many a brothel could surely tell you. Also as Riot would tell you, I still haven't spend a penny on it. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On June 22 2013 04:34 onlywonderboy wrote: All your answers are but a click away! Edit: Basically you aren't losing anything, but if you like TL enough to throw a couple extra bucks a month at it you can get some nice perks. Is this to pay for LoL funding or not be excluded? :D | ||
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