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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 22 2013 17:49 GMT
#1921
On May 23 2013 02:38 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 00:48 qanik wrote:
The new champ looks hella weak. Unless they do some major tweaks on him before live he will never get picked: competitively or in solo queue. He is build around his W yet it is arguably weaker than many similar mechanics such as irelia, jax, vi and vaynes autoattack enhancements. He doesn't have any reliable CC or innate tankiness to him and having a steroid as ult is never good on a melee champion. Just tweaking the numbers wouldn't make him anymore interesting either. Honestly, terrible design by riot.


His Q is actually really strong compared to like, leap strike. He might need a #s tweak, and by that I mean they should give him a mana bar and mana costs.

So he can build muramana and be more op'd?
liftlift > tsm
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 22 2013 17:50 GMT
#1922
On May 23 2013 02:18 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 01:20 Badboyrune wrote:
On May 23 2013 01:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
LOL OMG

annie buffs on pbe

gg no re

Summon: Tibbers (R)

Mana cost reduced to 100 at all ranks from 125/175/225
Now lasts 60 seconds, up from 40 seconds
Tibbers’ HP increased from 1200/1600/2000 to 1200/2100/3000
Tibber’s Magic Resist increased from 25/45/65 to 30/50/70



So with max cdr there's a whopping 12 seconds of tibbers downtime if you do some micro and keep him alive?

Annie so badly needs this. Not because she's UP but because having bear out to do blue and dragon for you makes her so much cooler! Now if only pets could tank dragon again.


Pretty sure tibbers can tank drag...
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 22 2013 17:50 GMT
#1923
NA lost cointoss, China with the 2 blueside games

gg NA

eu won cointoss :D
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
May 22 2013 17:51 GMT
#1924
On May 23 2013 02:50 AsnSensation wrote:
NA lost cointoss, China with the 2 blueside games

gg NA

eu won cointoss :D

Oh fuck, they only prepared for blue side
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 22 2013 17:58 GMT
#1925
On May 23 2013 02:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 02:18 obesechicken13 wrote:
On May 23 2013 01:20 Badboyrune wrote:
On May 23 2013 01:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
LOL OMG

annie buffs on pbe

gg no re

Summon: Tibbers (R)

Mana cost reduced to 100 at all ranks from 125/175/225
Now lasts 60 seconds, up from 40 seconds
Tibbers’ HP increased from 1200/1600/2000 to 1200/2100/3000
Tibber’s Magic Resist increased from 25/45/65 to 30/50/70



So with max cdr there's a whopping 12 seconds of tibbers downtime if you do some micro and keep him alive?

Annie so badly needs this. Not because she's UP but because having bear out to do blue and dragon for you makes her so much cooler! Now if only pets could tank dragon again.


Pretty sure tibbers can tank drag...

minions take like 50% more damage from jungle creeps or something IIRC
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4341 Posts
May 22 2013 18:00 GMT
#1926
I just wanted to give you guys a heads up.

I will be re-launching my stream soon and to celebrate, I will be handing out $10 LoL gifts via raffles and hopefully I'll be able to do that three times a day for the next month. I'm still working it out with my sponsor. When it goes live, you'll see an announcement in the Sponsored Threads. Don't favorite the stream until it actually goes live as that's part of the way you win.

See you all soon. <3
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11787 Posts
May 22 2013 18:01 GMT
#1927
On May 23 2013 02:50 AsnSensation wrote:
NA lost cointoss, China with the 2 blueside games

gg NA

eu won cointoss :D


Is something interesting being streamed atm?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 22 2013 18:05 GMT
#1928
On May 23 2013 03:00 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I just wanted to give you guys a heads up.

I will be re-launching my stream soon and to celebrate, I will be handing out $10 LoL gifts via raffles and hopefully I'll be able to do that three times a day for the next month. I'm still working it out with my sponsor. When it goes live, you'll see an announcement in the Sponsored Threads. Don't favorite the stream until it actually goes live as that's part of the way you win.

See you all soon. <3

A League stream?

Now I know you're joking
It's your boy Guzma!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 22 2013 18:07 GMT
#1929
So glad NA lost cointoss, China might actually look decent for the first few minutes before NA totally rolls them.


+ Show Spoiler +
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 18:22:22
May 22 2013 18:18 GMT
#1930
Yeah I'll be the one commentating NA vs China for France :D

Any special information I should have about the Chinese team ? I don't follow the scene that well tbh, I mainly know Korea...
The legend of Darien lives on
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
May 22 2013 18:19 GMT
#1931
On May 23 2013 03:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
Yeah I'll be the one commentating NA vs US for France :D

Any special information I should have about the Chinese team ? I don't follow the scene that well tbh, I mainly know Korea...

I'll watch you friend
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 22 2013 18:20 GMT
#1932
On May 23 2013 03:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
Yeah I'll be the one commentating NA vs US for France :D

Any special information I should have about the Chinese team ? I don't follow the scene that well tbh, I mainly know Korea...

So good we have to knock ourselves out.
It's your boy Guzma!
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
May 22 2013 18:21 GMT
#1933
On May 23 2013 02:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 02:18 obesechicken13 wrote:
On May 23 2013 01:20 Badboyrune wrote:
On May 23 2013 01:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
LOL OMG

annie buffs on pbe

gg no re

Summon: Tibbers (R)

Mana cost reduced to 100 at all ranks from 125/175/225
Now lasts 60 seconds, up from 40 seconds
Tibbers’ HP increased from 1200/1600/2000 to 1200/2100/3000
Tibber’s Magic Resist increased from 25/45/65 to 30/50/70



So with max cdr there's a whopping 12 seconds of tibbers downtime if you do some micro and keep him alive?

Annie so badly needs this. Not because she's UP but because having bear out to do blue and dragon for you makes her so much cooler! Now if only pets could tank dragon again.


Pretty sure tibbers can tank drag...


I can tank drag or any shit with Zyra's plants so yeah. With new minion aggro rules, they attack whatever is the closest to them. I think they can even attack wards if they are visible.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 22 2013 18:22 GMT
#1934
On May 23 2013 03:20 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 03:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
Yeah I'll be the one commentating NA vs US for France :D

Any special information I should have about the Chinese team ? I don't follow the scene that well tbh, I mainly know Korea...

So good we have to knock ourselves out.

I would have seen this the other way : so bad you need to play yourself to pass kekekekeke

J/k, sry for the typo :D
The legend of Darien lives on
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 22 2013 18:30 GMT
#1935
On May 23 2013 00:48 qanik wrote:
The new champ looks hella weak. Unless they do some major tweaks on him before live he will never get picked: competitively or in solo queue. He is build around his W yet it is arguably weaker than many similar mechanics such as irelia, jax, vi and vaynes autoattack enhancements. He doesn't have any reliable CC or innate tankiness to him and having a steroid as ult is never good on a melee champion. Just tweaking the numbers wouldn't make him anymore interesting either. Honestly, terrible design by riot.


Wat.

Aatrox' W is arguably as strong as or stronger than the similar mechanics you listed because it has really good scaling and flexibility. It's always on, can switch seamlessly between huge damage and ridiculous healing when he's below half health, and has no target requirements.

He has reliable CC, his Q is extremely fast and easy to aim, especially if you land your E first (which is a decent skillshot in its own right), and both can be used to quickly clear waves.

He has innate tankiness. His ultimate gives him up to 650 bonus health, and he innately has a free GA with a base of up to 885 health at level 18 (affected by SV). Not to mention, again, the ridiculous healing on his W below half health.

His ult being a steroid isn't a huge problem because its cooldown drops like a rock with ranks and you should be building SV anyway. At rank 3 you're looking at roughly a one minute cooldown with CDR.

I can't defend him from the charge of being uninteresting because that's subjective, but he has a perfectly potent kit.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 22 2013 18:35 GMT
#1936
wtf just opened my client, Grats Ente.
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 22 2013 18:47 GMT
#1937
Magma Chamber.
(Also EUW dead again, people on it can keep playing apparently but it's impossible to log in.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 18:50:33
May 22 2013 18:50 GMT
#1938
On May 23 2013 03:47 Alaric wrote:
Magma Chamber.
(Also EUW dead again, people on it can keep playing apparently but it's impossible to log in.)

lol. Best Riven NA too cool.

I didn't know pets could aggro Dragon. I feel like when I try it on Malz or Annie that dragon attacks me but perhaps I'm doing it wrong.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 22 2013 18:55 GMT
#1939
On May 23 2013 03:47 Alaric wrote:
Magma Chamber.
(Also EUW dead again, people on it can keep playing apparently but it's impossible to log in.)

During a red post (or was it an AMA? can't remember) Riot said that Magma Chamber would be just for the tournament and not for public use.

Gee I wonder why no one believed them
It's your boy Guzma!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 22 2013 19:03 GMT
#1940
Dammit I just came from studying and wanted to jam a game.
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