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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 22 2013 20:33 GMT
#1961
On May 23 2013 05:12 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 05:11 JonGalt wrote:
On May 23 2013 04:46 Requizen wrote:
HOLD ON BEST PART OF NEW MAP

[image loading]


Too small for my phone, what is it?

And I'd be interested to hear about the new Shyvana on the PBE. I remember her pre-6 felt always so weak. I also don't have many rune pages, so that could be it - but this still looks like it will help.

An ult with +46 armor/mr looks mighty good.

It's a little fire poro :3 Black and red theme instead of white from Howling Abyss.


Ice poro looks so much cuter though
Maybe it's cause i always had a westie growing up so i'm more used to adorable white furry creatures.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 20:35:53
May 22 2013 20:35 GMT
#1962
On May 23 2013 05:33 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 05:12 Requizen wrote:
On May 23 2013 05:11 JonGalt wrote:
On May 23 2013 04:46 Requizen wrote:
HOLD ON BEST PART OF NEW MAP

[image loading]


Too small for my phone, what is it?

And I'd be interested to hear about the new Shyvana on the PBE. I remember her pre-6 felt always so weak. I also don't have many rune pages, so that could be it - but this still looks like it will help.

An ult with +46 armor/mr looks mighty good.

It's a little fire poro :3 Black and red theme instead of white from Howling Abyss.


Ice poro looks so much cuter though
Maybe it's cause i always had a westie growing up so i'm more used to adorable white furry creatures.


Are you a *gasp* pro bigot?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 22 2013 20:52 GMT
#1963
On May 23 2013 05:25 sung_moon wrote:
We all know if LoL has an FG spinoff, Lee Sin would be top tier. Soraka meter gain assist to quickly gain 5 levels for Dark Vayne also another strat (Sorry couldn't think of anything better than that )

Riven is S tier 100-0 juggles with ridiculously varying combos.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 20:59:21
May 22 2013 20:59 GMT
#1964
On May 23 2013 05:52 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 05:25 sung_moon wrote:
We all know if LoL has an FG spinoff, Lee Sin would be top tier. Soraka meter gain assist to quickly gain 5 levels for Dark Vayne also another strat (Sorry couldn't think of anything better than that )

Riven is S tier 100-0 juggles with ridiculously varying combos.

I'd say Ezreal god tier with his Blink. Tons of mixups.
The legend of Darien lives on
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11943 Posts
May 22 2013 21:01 GMT
#1965
On May 23 2013 05:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 04:12 Simberto wrote:
This forum is getting more and more complicated. I no longer know where i have to look to see if something interesting is going on, or get notified once that happens. Was a lot simpler when everything was just in the GD thread. Now there are so many threads about so many things, and all of them are offline when i look at them.

Most of the main conversations still happen in GD, the only major difference is the LR threads are housed in their own subforum and we are trying to use champion specific threads for discussion revolving around them (which was something Neo always wanted). What specific threads are you having trouble utilizing?


Basically, i sometimes tend to hang around and have nothing to do, but don't notice when interesting things are going on that i would want to watch. I frequently look at my subscribed threads, and a few months ago if something happened, people posted a link in GD or were talking about it in GD, and i noticed it. Nowadays, Tourneys are spread out across many threads, and i miss everything. And when people talk about things in GD i don't know if they are going on now, or where, because they are supposed to talk about them elsewhere.

So basically, i am badly organised and LoL GD used to solve that problem, but now everything is all complicated and i miss all the fun things. I am looking for some way too easily see which things are going on, maybe sorted by importance.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
May 22 2013 21:03 GMT
#1966
Really tho what happened to bly? Did he died?
Retvrn to Forvms
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 21:04:32
May 22 2013 21:04 GMT
#1967
On May 23 2013 04:40 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 00:51 Scip wrote:
LOL ENten got featured on Leagueoflegends.com hahahahaha

i think there's some irony with this given that he's been wrongfully tribunaled twice? lol

I was thinking the exact same thing haha.

Congrats Ente!

On May 23 2013 06:03 Chrispy wrote:
Really tho what happened to bly? Did he died?

Call the consulate.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 22 2013 21:04 GMT
#1968
On May 23 2013 05:59 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 05:52 Gahlo wrote:
On May 23 2013 05:25 sung_moon wrote:
We all know if LoL has an FG spinoff, Lee Sin would be top tier. Soraka meter gain assist to quickly gain 5 levels for Dark Vayne also another strat (Sorry couldn't think of anything better than that )

Riven is S tier 100-0 juggles with ridiculously varying combos.

I'd say Ezreal god tier with his Blink. Tons of mixups.


Yea was thinking that too. Ezreal with Lulu assist is like 50/50's for days. I'd imagine Amumu/Sona assist nerfed next edition. Almost always a guaranteed happy birthday.

Pick up Vayne now that Tumble is 3f of invisibility and Condemn is anywhere wall bounce.
Forever Young
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 22 2013 21:05 GMT
#1969
zed would not be top tier. 3 second mark? yo someone did that already, didn't work out too well for him.

Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 22 2013 21:08 GMT
#1970
mildly disappointed with FB win criteria, more of a fan of the "fistful of tangos" style 3 kills or a tower.
Carrilord has arrived.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 21:09:08
May 22 2013 21:08 GMT
#1971
On May 23 2013 06:01 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 05:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 23 2013 04:12 Simberto wrote:
This forum is getting more and more complicated. I no longer know where i have to look to see if something interesting is going on, or get notified once that happens. Was a lot simpler when everything was just in the GD thread. Now there are so many threads about so many things, and all of them are offline when i look at them.

Most of the main conversations still happen in GD, the only major difference is the LR threads are housed in their own subforum and we are trying to use champion specific threads for discussion revolving around them (which was something Neo always wanted). What specific threads are you having trouble utilizing?


Basically, i sometimes tend to hang around and have nothing to do, but don't notice when interesting things are going on that i would want to watch. I frequently look at my subscribed threads, and a few months ago if something happened, people posted a link in GD or were talking about it in GD, and i noticed it. Nowadays, Tourneys are spread out across many threads, and i miss everything. And when people talk about things in GD i don't know if they are going on now, or where, because they are supposed to talk about them elsewhere.

So basically, i am badly organised and LoL GD used to solve that problem, but now everything is all complicated and i miss all the fun things. I am looking for some way too easily see which things are going on, maybe sorted by importance.

Yeah I'm not that serious about events either. Just watch them when they're on and I have time lol. GD is where I learn about anything.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 22 2013 21:18 GMT
#1972
Kha, Yi, and Kat are obviously broken as fuck tier with their reset->infinites, shit isn't even hard to execute. Kha is the worst too because he doesn't just have the infinite, the rest of his game is solid.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 22 2013 21:19 GMT
#1973
On May 23 2013 06:05 kainzero wrote:
zed would not be top tier. 3 second mark? yo someone did that already, didn't work out too well for him.

http://youtu.be/9V3O9dDj4Ck?t=1m16s

Well, Kenshiro DOES win this match in the end ! Seriously, double instant position swaps ? Shit's so OP.
The legend of Darien lives on
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 21:23:29
May 22 2013 21:21 GMT
#1974
Honestly I feel that 100 minions is a bad metric. Should be something like 20-30CS advantage. Generally in LoL kills snowball harder than in Dota because while the death itself costs less, the amount XP you lose really puts you behind because you can't TP back to clean up farm. Tower is a reasonable criteria because it means you've been winning lane for quite a while.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 21:30:14
May 22 2013 21:26 GMT
#1975
On May 23 2013 06:21 Amui wrote:
Honestly I feel that 100 minions is a bad metric. Should be something like 20-30CS advantage. Generally in LoL kills snowball harder than in Dota because while the death itself costs less, the amount XP you lose really puts you behind because you can't TP back to clean up farm. Tower is a reasonable criteria because it means you've been winning lane for quite a while.

I'm kinda hoping they remove the artificial victory conditions and add ones that feel good like maybe a point based system. None of the victory conditions by themselves mean a won lane. It'd also be nice to have starting gold and levels for both sides to choose. # of towers. Minions... handicaps. etc.

If you could agree upon them in game like in DotA or in SC UMS that would be even better. If there is no consensus just use the map default rules.

If they're going to make simultaneous 1v1s and 2v2s be on one map they can even add junglers and add conditions for how many times a jungler is allowed to gank and how long a jungler is allowed to camp brush.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 22 2013 21:31 GMT
#1976
i'm sad, wasn't magma chamber originally going to be n epic 7v7 or something that got scrapped and turned into dominion (which is a cool game mode which everyone should play)?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 21:36:46
May 22 2013 21:36 GMT
#1977
On May 23 2013 05:25 sung_moon wrote:
We all know if LoL has an FG spinoff, Lee Sin would be top tier. Soraka meter gain assist to quickly gain 5 levels for Dark Vayne also another strat (Sorry couldn't think of anything better than that )

Lee Sin would just have Sagat's moveset. Tryndamere would still be the best though, Nightmare ftw
Also Kilik Wukong would be pretty sick.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 22 2013 21:38 GMT
#1978
Xin would be pretty awesome pubstomper as far as fighting games go.

Roll your face on the controls and win!
Porouscloud - NA LoL
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 21:48:33
May 22 2013 21:41 GMT
#1979
kassadin would be pretty OP.

edit: dumb question, but having the item cooldown masteries does affect wriggles right? so you could theoretically put down more than 1 ward with it.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 22 2013 21:50 GMT
#1980
On May 23 2013 06:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
kassadin would be pretty OP.

edit: dumb question, but having the item cooldown masteries does affect wriggles right? so you could theoretically put down more than 1 ward with it.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Wriggle's_Lantern
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
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