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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
June 09 2013 19:35 GMT
#6701
On June 10 2013 04:32 overt wrote:
I did some digging and it could still be Udyr despite the Freljord comment,
Show nested quote +
Q: [NarbYo]Is the upcoming ultimate skin Freljord related?

A: [MorelloRiot]Nope :D


It's probably still Udyr. They probably just meant it wasn't related to the Freljord. But I really don't want it to be a skin for a champion that I never play ever.

Even with the anti-Freljord bend it can still be Udyr. The skin, if it's Udyr, focuses on the animals evoked by his stances. Bear, Tiger, Turtle, and Phoenix. None of these are Frejlord spirits, they are Ionian. Udyr did not learn to properly summon spirits until he was under Lee Sin's tutelage in Ionia.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 20:21:05
June 09 2013 19:47 GMT
#6702
On June 10 2013 04:08 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 04:05 kongoline wrote:
On June 10 2013 03:56 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On June 10 2013 03:55 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 10 2013 03:53 Amarok wrote:
Calling it right now, the ultimate skin is for Nasus. The clues were Spirit (Spirit Fire), fifth letter of a skill being E (WithEr), not Frejlord (ruling out Udyr) and of course melee. The dog is the only one that ticks all the boxes and has potential for legendary animations/effects worthy of an ultimate (Wither effect, Spirit Fire effect and of course his Ultimate) where primal is about as awesome as you could make Udyr.


I am almost certain it was the 4th letter being E


It was the fourth letter.

yea i dont get why people say its udyr when it was clearly said 4th latter is E wtf


PhoEnix stance?

wait its skill not champion name? nvm then
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
June 09 2013 19:53 GMT
#6703
The not-freljord thing just means it isn't ice udyr. Still gonna be a udyr skin. 1-1 odds of udyr vs everyone else sounds +EV to me.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 09 2013 19:59 GMT
#6704
Yea I mean, I'm still 90% sure the skin is for Udyr. Spirit Summoner Udyr has been in the works for ages now. I just want it to be Spirit Summoner Udyr so I can go troll normals with all the spirit stone items and the skin and just say I'm roleplaying.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 20:06:51
June 09 2013 20:05 GMT
#6705
judging by the actual quote and the timing of the quote, I think just the fact that it was not release in the Fjorlord patch is possibly all he meant

Udyr fits all other clues far too well.
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 09 2013 20:21 GMT
#6706
On June 10 2013 02:42 Ketara wrote:
In other news, I have like 9k IP and 20 filled out rune pages, wtf champions should I start getting?

Nobody that I am really interested in playing right now so who is like TL Hipster atm?

The answer is always Viktor.
On June 10 2013 02:27 overt wrote:
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On June 10 2013 02:25 Dusty wrote:
Anyone who doesn't think its Udyr is sooooo wrong

literally every hint points at Udyr...

Even SV "confirmed" it in his vlog he did after the Noc legendary came out.

But Udyr is so boring to play...

I'm sure it's Udyr but I'm hoping it'll end up miraculously being someone else.

Towerdive more (or whatever situations makes you tank a ton of shit and still walk out alive like nothing happened, but I find towerdives to be pretty enjoyable amongst those).
Also Ashe is from Freljord, Queen Ashe is related to Freljord, Woad Ashe isn't related to Freljord.

Regarding NA's work ethic, I've got to admit I was pretty surprised to see how much TOO/Qtpie/etc. stream currently considering the NA super week is only 3 days away.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
June 09 2013 20:21 GMT
#6707
Depending on when Morello made the comment, the Frejlord lore ret-con may not have happened yet and he may not have been aware of it.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
June 09 2013 20:24 GMT
#6708
On June 10 2013 04:59 Ryuu314 wrote:
Yea I mean, I'm still 90% sure the skin is for Udyr. Spirit Summoner Udyr has been in the works for ages now. I just want it to be Spirit Summoner Udyr so I can go troll normals with all the spirit stone items and the skin and just say I'm roleplaying.

Should be able to combine all 3 into Spirit of the Purple Worm.
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
June 09 2013 20:31 GMT
#6709
On June 10 2013 05:21 MoonBear wrote:
Depending on when Morello made the comment, the Frejlord lore ret-con may not have happened yet and he may not have been aware of it.


Plus there's no doubt that the Ultimate Skin has been in production long before the Udyr ret-con happened and probably before the Freljord patch was even realized. No matter what champion it's for there's no way it would be related to the Freljord lore or aesthetic. I think people are reading too much into the comment - it was made a month ago during the Freljord AMA and we have two clues from this week pointing directly to Udyr.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 09 2013 20:42 GMT
#6710
On June 10 2013 05:21 MoonBear wrote:
Depending on when Morello made the comment, the Frejlord lore ret-con may not have happened yet and he may not have been aware of it.


Yeah I'd love to see that as well.

Udyr fits the pattern better. He was just recently reworked/buffed, everything except the Frejlord thing fits him. Mordekaiser hasn't been buffed for the last .... god knows how long.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 20:50:50
June 09 2013 20:44 GMT
#6711
I'm normally not a big fan of resourseless champions but I feel like if they are going to exist Udyr should be one. All of his abilities (with the exception to E's Dash) are just modifications to auto attacks, and his passive rewards spamming stance swaps. All of the compelling reasons for Udyr to HAVE mana died when they removed mana restoration from Turtle stance imo, they should just go to cd based, and see how it plays out for a couple months.

p.s. If they nerf Jayce before they nerf Muramana I don't even..
Carrilord has arrived.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 09 2013 20:52 GMT
#6712
udyr being manaless would polarize his early game even more
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 09 2013 20:53 GMT
#6713
I just don't feel like stacking your passive costing ~50% of your mana is a compelling mechanic either.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 09 2013 20:54 GMT
#6714
On June 10 2013 05:44 Slusher wrote:
I'm normally not a big fan of resourseless champions but I feel like if they are going to exist Udyr should be one. All of his abilities (with the exception to E's Dash) are just modifications to auto attacks, and his passive rewards spamming stance swaps. All of the compelling reasons for Udyr to HAVE mana died when they removed mana restoration from Turtle stance imo, they should just go to cd based, and see how it plays out for a couple months.

p.s. If they nerf Jayce before they nerf Muramana I don't even..

Isn't that all more compelling reason to give Udyr mana costs? To limit the strength of his abilities, all while giving it the "spammy" feel. If you make it CD based, there will be too long of CD's for him to have that feel he currently has. Unless you're talking about removing his mana costs, while keeping his CD, then he'd just be stupid op'd.
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 20:55:53
June 09 2013 20:55 GMT
#6715
you're nto supposed to stackyour passive early all the time
thats the whole point of it being a short duration stacking channeled passive

mana becomes mostly irrelevant later anyway so why would you make a champion with potentially absuive early game skillset a potential to abuse them
manaless turtle spam in lane would be ridiculous
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 09 2013 20:58 GMT
#6716
I'm probly wrong it was just a thought. I think the only time I played udyr since week 1 of the balance changes was in aram, (which the fact I was able to oom with the mana on that map suprised me) I mostly blamed it on them removing mana from W but idk, I can't imagine him being a good pick w/o having an energy mid atm, but mabye my imagination is limited.
Carrilord has arrived.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
June 09 2013 20:58 GMT
#6717
On June 10 2013 05:44 Slusher wrote:
I'm normally not a big fan of resourseless champions but I feel like if they are going to exist Udyr should be one. All of his abilities (with the exception to E's Dash) are just modifications to auto attacks, and his passive rewards spamming stance swaps. All of the compelling reasons for Udyr to HAVE mana died when they removed mana restoration from Turtle stance imo, they should just go to cd based, and see how it plays out for a couple months.

p.s. If they nerf Jayce before they nerf Muramana I don't even..


There's no way this is a good idea. I don't want to see this. Please no.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 21:05:03
June 09 2013 21:04 GMT
#6718
Or its all just an elaborate troll and Riot releases the best DRAVEN skin to ever grace summoner's rift

+ Show Spoiler +
DRAVEN! :D
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
June 09 2013 21:06 GMT
#6719
On June 10 2013 06:04 Jojo131 wrote:
Or its all just an elaborate troll and Riot releases the best DRAVEN skin to ever grace summoner's rift

+ Show Spoiler +
DRAVEN! :D


I don't get people's obsession with Draven. It's like a forced thing on LoL. Same with hating on Teemo on reddit. Never will figure that out.

Also didn't they just release gladiator Draven a few weeks back?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 09 2013 21:08 GMT
#6720
On June 10 2013 03:53 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 03:45 Diamond wrote:
On June 10 2013 03:41 obesechicken13 wrote:
On June 10 2013 03:34 Diamond wrote:
Eve jungle is freelo man, abuse that shit! I have been !

http://www.lolking.net/champions/evelynn#statistics

Not really. You just have small sample sizes and confounding variables (like being bad with other champs relative to Eve, or being lucky playing against people who don't know how to play against Eve) that cause you to overinflate her strength.


Or, most people suck with Eve? Or a lot of those games are lane Eve?

Don't throw random stats around with no context, doesn't really work well. Also I'll never forget Olaf was nerfed into the ground at 48% winrate in solo que, solo que win stats is not really much.

Yeah, so you're saying you're just really good with Eve compared to the average Eve at your Elo which is believeable. That's fine, but most people are not as good with Eve.

She's not "freelo" for everyone and not for most people.

To everyone: don't trust TL's hipsterdom blindly. If someone says Karma is OP but you play her and don't think she's strong then don't play her.


Just make sure to not pick eve when your team is squishy. I've made that mistake of picking Eve into a team that is like:
Sona/Anivia. Need more tanks.
Freeeeeeedom
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