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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 06 2013 10:59 onlywonderboy wrote: Some people don't have as thick of skin. Don't act all holier than thou because some people can't shrug off needless shit talking. Ignoring is a great option, assholes should still be banned. I think the point is not that we don't think ingame hatespeech is good, we just think that it is far more tolerable than other things that Riot basically turns a blind eye to. Its as if Major League Baseball flipped its policies and suspended players 50/100games/lifetime ban for non-PC speech and only gave $15,000 fines for using PEDs. One of the things infringes on the legitimacy of the games, while the other does not, the punishments should reflect that. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:05 OutlaW- wrote: I apologize, then, for these 2 meaningless posts. A bit tired. It's all good, I realize how it came off as directed when it was supposed to be more of a general statement. On June 06 2013 11:06 cLutZ wrote: I think the point is not that we don't think ingame hatespeech is good, we just think that it is far more tolerable than other things that Riot basically turns a blind eye to. Its as if Major League Baseball flipped its policies and suspended players 50/100games/lifetime ban for non-PC speech and only gave $15,000 fines for using PEDs. One of the things infringes on the legitimacy of the games, while the other does not, the punishments should reflect that. I think it's a little different when we are comparing professional athletes to people just picking up the game. I think IWD's 1 year ban was too harsh, but if someone is a dick in game and flames I have no issue with them getting a week ban or whatever. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:05 wei2coolman wrote: If you need your teammates to help you carry. You're not carrying correctly. Yeah, because this game is all about winning 1v5. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Tried to quote it from last page and broke my post. It was missed over the hatespeech discussion last page :3 | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:05 wei2coolman wrote: If you need your teammates to help you carry. You're not carrying correctly. The point is that nobody can really carry 1v5, you still need your teammates to execute at least basic commands. Not even a challenger-level player could carry a complete 1v5 in bronze. Don't know if anyone's been watching qt's bronze stream lately, but he summed it up pretty well. You need to be positive and encourage your team, saying things like "calm down we got this" or reminding people that winning is close if they just cooperate can work wonders. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:09 GolemMadness wrote: Yeah, because this game is all about winning 1v5. If you splitpush correctly you only need to 1v2 or 1v3. Pretty sure even if your team is super derp they can win a 4v3 or 4v2. also refer to previous statement about being nice guy carrying. Or be gold 2 smurf. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:12 OutlaW- wrote: The point is that nobody can really carry 1v5, you still need your teammates to execute at least basic commands. Not even a challenger-level player could carry a complete 1v5 in bronze. Don't know if anyone's been watching qt's bronze stream lately, but he summed it up pretty well. You need to be positive and encourage your team, saying things like "calm down we got this" or reminding people that winning is close if they just cooperate can work wonders. qtpie is the best motivational Bronze speaker. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:11 Capped wrote: EDIT: Standard zac build? when i bought him everyone was like "tank tank tank" but im having some success putting some AP on him with like Rylais and liandrys. My standard build atm is Ancient golem, Sorcerers boots, Rylais, Spirit, Sunfire and Liandries. Carries shit hard, i annihliate the squishies i jump on and still have like 4k hp. Tried to quote it from last page and broke my post. It was missed over the hatespeech discussion last page :3 I don't really like Rylai's on him because the build up is a little weird-- until you finish it, you've got about 1.2k sunk on 60 AP, which I feel isn't very good on him, and he already has a slow with his Q and two knockups. I like Randuin's a lot better. I usually tend to go more supporty builds out of the jungle-- I usually go like Golem - Mobo Boots, Kindlegem, which can then go into SV or Locket (I get both eventually). Been experimenting with Twin Shadows and Wraithstone a little too. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:20 ticklishmusic wrote: I don't really like Rylai's on him because the build up is a little weird-- until you finish it, you've got about 1.2k sunk on 60 AP, which I feel isn't very good on him, and he already has a slow with his Q and two knockups. I like Randuin's a lot better. I usually tend to go more supporty builds out of the jungle-- I usually go like Golem - Mobo Boots, Kindlegem, which can then go into SV or Locket (I get both eventually). Been experimenting with Twin Shadows and Wraithstone a little too. Hmm, i dunno, i dont feel 1.2k sink is uselss, you get the giants belt then blasting rod but i dont think you'd buy (shit i forgot the name of it) 435 book at that stage of the game, you're more likely to get rylai's straight up. The thing is the 80 AP, 500HP and slow means you can stick to people like glue and demolish them but your still tanky. Also the disruption in teamfights is awesome although the same effect as randuins if its a prolonged fight its more effective. | ||
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dottycakes
Canada548 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:12 OutlaW- wrote: The point is that nobody can really carry 1v5, you still need your teammates to execute at least basic commands. Not even a challenger-level player could carry a complete 1v5 in bronze. Don't know if anyone's been watching qt's bronze stream lately, but he summed it up pretty well. You need to be positive and encourage your team, saying things like "calm down we got this" or reminding people that winning is close if they just cooperate can work wonders. People think trying to carry 4 shitty players on their back is hard... well, trying to purposely lose without blatantly walking into towers is harder. You do ANYTHING other than stand still and do nothing, you might influence enough of the game to get a victory. You position yourself in kill range -> enemy laner zones himself from xp and cs. You react to any enemy movements -> enemy team dives you and kills themselves. You go into a lane and act like you're afk farming, without last hitting -> the enemy team splits up and gets caught. You literally do nothing in a team fight but stand still -> enemy team focuses you while getting wiped from your teammates. You run around jungle so that you're not in team fights -> enemy team still dies 5v4. Try to get into Bronze, go 6-4 in placements, get in Silver. FML. What I learned is that simply, as long as you have 4 teammates that can click their mouse and walk around the map, you can carry a Bronze game. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:38 Dgiese wrote: Capped, you need to mention whether you are asking for jungle or top lane. sunfire liandrys sorcs can work top lane depending on team comp. jungle typically builds towards auras (locket and aegis). Zac is flexibile enough, just build to the game. Ah sorry, was jungle. At my level of play the supports always build aegis as first or second item so its redundant to buy lol. You tell them you want to build it and they spazz out "OMG BUT LOLKING TELLS ME TO BUILD DIS I DUNT KNO HOW TO BUILD NAOW" so i let em.  I also dont see locket as very strong on the champions i play, i dont really like it on zac. I play heca alot (pony OP.) and locket on him is pretty redundant too as his 2nd item needs to be sheen into gauntlet (after boots + lizard, in fact i get the sheen before lizard but ye) Maokai on the other hand works wonders with both aegis and locket so i tend to always try build those on him, likewise with locket on xin. ALSO Im also seeing this rhythm to my jungling naow, i tend to do first clear + 1-2 ganks then back with roughly 750-900g and buy boots + stone/razor + wards. Is that a good thing to be doing? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11620 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:40 Capped wrote: Ah sorry, was jungle. At my level of play the supports always build aegis as first or second item so its redundant to buy lol. You tell them you want to build it and they spazz out "OMG BUT LOLKING TELLS ME TO BUILD DIS I DUNT KNO HOW TO BUILD NAOW" so i let em. I normally just go locket on Zac (after Ancient Golem) if it looks like someone else is going Aegis. I used to run jungle zac as more AP with spellvamp (even ran spellvamp quints) and recently switched to tank. Really Zac gets a lot out of skill points and does not really need AP to do damage. His W does the base % which mid to late game is enough at 8% a pop, his e does decent damage @ lvl 5, and you heal a lot of your passive blobs if you have a ton of HP. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:08 onlywonderboy wrote: It's all good, I realize how it came off as directed when it was supposed to be more of a general statement. I think it's a little different when we are comparing professional athletes to people just picking up the game. I think IWD's 1 year ban was too harsh, but if someone is a dick in game and flames I have no issue with them getting a week ban or whatever. Yes, in one situation you are depriving someone of their standard of living, in the other you are depriving them of a videogame (except for IWD). In any case, conduct should ALWAYS be punished more harshly than speech. Always. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:55 cLutZ wrote: Yes, in one situation you are depriving someone of their standard of living, in the other you are depriving them of a videogame (except for IWD). In any case, conduct should ALWAYS be punished more harshly than speech. Always. So I think we actually agree lol. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On June 06 2013 10:01 UnKooL wrote: Anyone else on the east coast suffering 300-400 ping, Riot confirmed something is wrong on the forums. Guess I won't be playing tonight. There's definitely an issue. See: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3521364 Not sure if this is related in some way or not, but anyone else in the East coast having this type of weird spikes over the last 2 or 3 weeks rather than just recently? | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/wellplayed Denial eSports(previously DoubleBuff) vs Team Summon(L0cust). Currently tied at 1-1 with TS winning the third game. Seems to be a best of 5. On June 06 2013 12:08 onlywonderboy wrote: I had some random lag spikes that seem eerily similar to that in the last couple weeks, figured it was just my IP. Yea, I thought the same thing, but that thread makes me think it might have been more involved than just the ISP. | ||
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