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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On May 29 2013 06:04 Chrispy wrote:
Bout dat Chau...
Didn't he say he wanted jungle because he felt like he couldn't carry as support? Now he's back on support because he couldn't carry in da jungle (among other reasons). I only remember Chauster playing whacky shit like Galio support but I mean I'm sure he can play up to LCS NA standards but Chau ain't no Godlife. Doesn't even possess an inkling of Godlife's powers. I think Chau's probably the most over rated player NA and has been for a long time.
To be fair, with HSGG and Aphro leaving, they couldn't get rid of Chau, Link, or Dlift per the need at least 3 people you qualified with rule.
Barring that, I still think Chauster can carry from support with the new support pool out there. It kinda was hard to carry as a support when soraka was so popular. Not really a playmaking support. Also, the holy trinity didn't help. And managing Dlift to not derp around is carrying in a way.
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On May 29 2013 05:11 Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 05:00 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 04:54 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 04:45 Arisen wrote:
So, im starting another account because I'm tired of dealing with my ranked game bug, What bug? Im losing 6 or more times the LP per ranked game than I win (usually 1LP per win, 6-25 per loss). I also seem to get a lot of AFK/DCs, etc. I've been told its because LoL thinks my MMR or whatever should be lower so it's trying to get me to where it wants me by making me lose more points than I could possibly gain (I had a friend tell me that he thinks they're putting me on the team with the lower combined MMR as well, but I think it's just a coincidence that I get quite a lot of DCs/AFKs). That's not a bug, not even close to one.....
Either bug or working as intended, I was in high silver when i stopped playing, now that I've started playing again after a long hiatus, I've worked my way almost down to bronze 3 because of this issue. It's no fun for me as a play much worse players than myself only to keep dropping because LoL thinks my MMR should be lower so i can finally reach some equilibrium then steamroll back up. If it is an intended function, I think it's decidedly unfun.
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Jungle > Top > Ad-Carry >>>>>> Support > Mid
I dont play mid cause it always gets called first and I dont know what champ i would like to play. Support ist just such a boring role, dont like Ad-carry very much either, so i just play Top and Jungle basically.
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On May 29 2013 06:04 Chrispy wrote:
Bout dat Chau...
Didn't he say he wanted jungle because he felt like he couldn't carry as support? Now he's back on support because he couldn't carry in da jungle (among other reasons). I only remember Chauster playing whacky shit like Galio support but I mean I'm sure he can play up to LCS NA standards but Chau ain't no Godlife. Doesn't even possess an inkling of Godlife's powers. I think Chau's probably the most over rated player NA and has been for a long time.
Mostly agree.
While X(s)pecial performed well in the Allstars (minus a few potentially critical whiffs), Patoy's the real world-class NA support (real shame he didn't get into the Allstars), and plenty of other NA LCS supports have been steadily upping their game.
Perhaps Chauster will be the primary shotcaller/game knowledge player on CLG, but eh, not sure if he'll actually have the same kind of influence he use to have.
Jiji in the jungle is just leaving me scratching my head.
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On May 29 2013 06:11 Arisen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 05:11 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 05:00 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 04:54 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 04:45 Arisen wrote:
So, im starting another account because I'm tired of dealing with my ranked game bug, What bug? Im losing 6 or more times the LP per ranked game than I win (usually 1LP per win, 6-25 per loss). I also seem to get a lot of AFK/DCs, etc. I've been told its because LoL thinks my MMR or whatever should be lower so it's trying to get me to where it wants me by making me lose more points than I could possibly gain (I had a friend tell me that he thinks they're putting me on the team with the lower combined MMR as well, but I think it's just a coincidence that I get quite a lot of DCs/AFKs). That's not a bug, not even close to one..... Either bug or working as intended, I was in high silver when i stopped playing, now that I've started playing again after a long hiatus, I've worked my way almost down to bronze 3 because of this issue. It's no fun for me as a play much worse players than myself only to keep dropping because LoL thinks my MMR should be lower so i can finally reach some equilibrium then steamroll back up. If it is an intended function, I think it's decidedly unfun.
This topic smells like sulfur and ash but... if they're that much worse than you you should win far more than you lose and you'll start climbing soon.
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What does bw have to do with league lol?The only thing from bw that can be useful for you is to look at minimap but considering this skill is pretty much a myth until pros(even then it's not that good lol) I really don't understand why would being good in a 1v1 rts game help you in a 5v5 moba.I guess experience is a factor too but you could get it from any game.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On May 29 2013 06:11 Arisen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 05:11 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 05:00 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 04:54 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 04:45 Arisen wrote:
So, im starting another account because I'm tired of dealing with my ranked game bug, What bug? Im losing 6 or more times the LP per ranked game than I win (usually 1LP per win, 6-25 per loss). I also seem to get a lot of AFK/DCs, etc. I've been told its because LoL thinks my MMR or whatever should be lower so it's trying to get me to where it wants me by making me lose more points than I could possibly gain (I had a friend tell me that he thinks they're putting me on the team with the lower combined MMR as well, but I think it's just a coincidence that I get quite a lot of DCs/AFKs). That's not a bug, not even close to one..... Either bug or working as intended, I was in high silver when i stopped playing, now that I've started playing again after a long hiatus, I've worked my way almost down to bronze 3 because of this issue. It's no fun for me as a play much worse players than myself only to keep dropping because LoL thinks my MMR should be lower so i can finally reach some equilibrium then steamroll back up. If it is an intended function, I think it's decidedly unfun.
I don't want to sound like a negative nancy or the broken record that is the TL attitude of ignore LP but...
1) Do you think that your "long hiatus" has anything to do with losing now?
OR
2) Ignore LP because it means nothing and just focus on improving.
And if you don't like any of those, how about blame ELO/MMR decay due to inactivity and just wait it out because it will fix itself.
Starting a new account for the sole purpose of getting into ranked again seems like a waste of runes, champs, IP, RP, and hard work! If you just want a smurf for playing with friends, then that's different.
Or if you want to ignore this and go back to 2002 and make a new BWLoL account because it doesn't show your "true" skill, then have fun 
Oh em gee, I am blowin' up my post count tonight.
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LoL is less mechanically demanding than BW, so I could see how skill in BW doesn't directly translate to skill in LoL
mid=support=adc=jungle>>>top
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On May 29 2013 06:04 JonGalt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 05:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:On May 29 2013 05:43 JonGalt wrote:On May 29 2013 05:35 Chrispy wrote:We had originally planned for Aphromoo to take over my spot top lane when I stepped down. Unfortunately, after several weeks spamming top and taking a short break after this Spring Split of LCS, he decided his heart just wasn't in top lane. I can respect that. Props to Aphro and I'm sure he'll have no trouble finding a team to play ADC on being as popular as he is. I feel like Nien's heart isn't in top lane either and don't think switching roles is as easy as Chauster/HSGG seem to think it is. Could be wrong though. HSGG has got a point when he says the actually season doesn't even really matter and it'll give Nien plenty of time to learn it though. We shall seeeee. I like Jiji and Nien as people (is that the gayest thing I've ever said?) so I kind of want CLG to succeed more now than ever. Seems like all of a sudden CLG turned into the nice guy team lol. Definitely respect Aphro for not wanting to Top lane. Plus I really like his ADC and would love to see him picked up. I know for myself I just don't like the traditional bot lane in general. I will support way before I ADC though. Mid > Top = Jungle >> Support >>>>>>>>>> ADC Oh that's a fun discussion! Where do people think their roles are skill-wise? Support > Jungle > Mid >> Top >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ADC for me. When I get back home in July, we'll duo as a support + AP bot lane all the way to Challenger league. Then we'll get picked up by Dig and help them throw just to piss off Alaric.
Stupid cheese = best cheese.
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On May 29 2013 06:13 Parametric wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 06:11 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 05:11 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 05:00 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 04:54 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 04:45 Arisen wrote:
So, im starting another account because I'm tired of dealing with my ranked game bug, What bug? Im losing 6 or more times the LP per ranked game than I win (usually 1LP per win, 6-25 per loss). I also seem to get a lot of AFK/DCs, etc. I've been told its because LoL thinks my MMR or whatever should be lower so it's trying to get me to where it wants me by making me lose more points than I could possibly gain (I had a friend tell me that he thinks they're putting me on the team with the lower combined MMR as well, but I think it's just a coincidence that I get quite a lot of DCs/AFKs). That's not a bug, not even close to one..... Either bug or working as intended, I was in high silver when i stopped playing, now that I've started playing again after a long hiatus, I've worked my way almost down to bronze 3 because of this issue. It's no fun for me as a play much worse players than myself only to keep dropping because LoL thinks my MMR should be lower so i can finally reach some equilibrium then steamroll back up. If it is an intended function, I think it's decidedly unfun. This topic smells like sulfur and ash but... if they're that much worse than you you should win far more than you lose and you'll start climbing soon.
1-2 AFK's almost every game, i play support almost every game. I'm not getting into an argument about ELO hell or whatever, i had a legit question and people started flaming because they're always looking to flame people. Even if I did win i would have to win 6-25 times to just maintain my current LP. Obviously LoL wants my MMR to go down...
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On May 29 2013 06:32 Arisen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 06:13 Parametric wrote:On May 29 2013 06:11 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 05:11 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 05:00 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 04:54 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 04:45 Arisen wrote:
So, im starting another account because I'm tired of dealing with my ranked game bug, What bug? Im losing 6 or more times the LP per ranked game than I win (usually 1LP per win, 6-25 per loss). I also seem to get a lot of AFK/DCs, etc. I've been told its because LoL thinks my MMR or whatever should be lower so it's trying to get me to where it wants me by making me lose more points than I could possibly gain (I had a friend tell me that he thinks they're putting me on the team with the lower combined MMR as well, but I think it's just a coincidence that I get quite a lot of DCs/AFKs). That's not a bug, not even close to one..... Either bug or working as intended, I was in high silver when i stopped playing, now that I've started playing again after a long hiatus, I've worked my way almost down to bronze 3 because of this issue. It's no fun for me as a play much worse players than myself only to keep dropping because LoL thinks my MMR should be lower so i can finally reach some equilibrium then steamroll back up. If it is an intended function, I think it's decidedly unfun. This topic smells like sulfur and ash but... if they're that much worse than you you should win far more than you lose and you'll start climbing soon. 1-2 AFK's almost every game, i play support almost every game. I'm not getting into an argument about ELO hell or whatever, i had a legit question and people started flaming because they're always looking to flame people. Even if I did win i would have to win 6-25 times to just maintain my current LP. Obviously LoL wants my MMR to go down...
No. your MMR is already down. It wants your LP to go down to more appropriately match said MMR.
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Support > ADC > Mid > Top >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jungle
I honestly don't understand how to jungle lol. I guess it's because I get demoralized easy if I get countered and I have no idea what to do next.
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Hmm, by my math I've made about 315031 IP so far. Fuck making a new account!
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Support >> jungle > adc >>>>>>>>>>> top > mid
i was C on iccup, but that's back when getting C was easy, 2 hatch lurkers every game cause hold lurkers were auto win vs terrans. Now everyone in D- is a progamer wtf
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On May 29 2013 06:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 06:04 JonGalt wrote:On May 29 2013 05:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:On May 29 2013 05:43 JonGalt wrote:On May 29 2013 05:35 Chrispy wrote:We had originally planned for Aphromoo to take over my spot top lane when I stepped down. Unfortunately, after several weeks spamming top and taking a short break after this Spring Split of LCS, he decided his heart just wasn't in top lane. I can respect that. Props to Aphro and I'm sure he'll have no trouble finding a team to play ADC on being as popular as he is. I feel like Nien's heart isn't in top lane either and don't think switching roles is as easy as Chauster/HSGG seem to think it is. Could be wrong though. HSGG has got a point when he says the actually season doesn't even really matter and it'll give Nien plenty of time to learn it though. We shall seeeee. I like Jiji and Nien as people (is that the gayest thing I've ever said?) so I kind of want CLG to succeed more now than ever. Seems like all of a sudden CLG turned into the nice guy team lol. Definitely respect Aphro for not wanting to Top lane. Plus I really like his ADC and would love to see him picked up. I know for myself I just don't like the traditional bot lane in general. I will support way before I ADC though. Mid > Top = Jungle >> Support >>>>>>>>>> ADC Oh that's a fun discussion! Where do people think their roles are skill-wise? Support > Jungle > Mid >> Top >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ADC for me. When I get back home in July, we'll duo as a support + AP bot lane all the way to Challenger league. Then we'll get picked up by Dig and help them throw just to piss off Alaric. Stupid cheese = best cheese.
My students would tell you that we could simplify that equation to stupid = best. 
Just kidding. My students couldn't tell you that. One of my rather promising Form D (11th grade) students tried to use his calculator for 1 - 4. Corporal punishment is still allowed here and boy was I close to using it haha. #3rdWorldProblems.
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Hitting a brick wall at Gold 1.
I'm not sure if I'm just playing overly aggressive or I've been role switching too much or what, but my top is like mediocre now. I think I should probably focus on one or two champs instead of ten, no?
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On May 29 2013 06:22 JonGalt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 06:11 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 05:11 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 05:00 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 04:54 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 04:45 Arisen wrote:
So, im starting another account because I'm tired of dealing with my ranked game bug, What bug? Im losing 6 or more times the LP per ranked game than I win (usually 1LP per win, 6-25 per loss). I also seem to get a lot of AFK/DCs, etc. I've been told its because LoL thinks my MMR or whatever should be lower so it's trying to get me to where it wants me by making me lose more points than I could possibly gain (I had a friend tell me that he thinks they're putting me on the team with the lower combined MMR as well, but I think it's just a coincidence that I get quite a lot of DCs/AFKs). That's not a bug, not even close to one..... Either bug or working as intended, I was in high silver when i stopped playing, now that I've started playing again after a long hiatus, I've worked my way almost down to bronze 3 because of this issue. It's no fun for me as a play much worse players than myself only to keep dropping because LoL thinks my MMR should be lower so i can finally reach some equilibrium then steamroll back up. If it is an intended function, I think it's decidedly unfun. I don't want to sound like a negative nancy or the broken record that is the TL attitude of ignore LP but... 1) Do you think that your "long hiatus" has anything to do with losing now? OR 2) Ignore LP because it means nothing and just focus on improving. And if you don't like any of those, how about blame ELO/MMR decay due to inactivity and just wait it out because it will fix itself. Starting a new account for the sole purpose of getting into ranked again seems like a waste of runes, champs, IP, RP, and hard work! If you just want a smurf for playing with friends, then that's different. Or if you want to ignore this and go back to 2002 and make a new BWLoL account because it doesn't show your "true" skill, then have fun Oh em gee, I am blowin' up my post count tonight.
1) I'm positive my "long Hiatus" has nothing to do with me losing now. I had played dota during my haitus, my mechanics are better than ever. The only thing i have to improve is my game knowledge. I'm playing support mostly, I always end up positive during my games, i place a ton of wards. I counter ward. People either go afk or go off 1v5 and die over and over and feed people.
2) My league keeps dropping, so I'm playing worse and worse players. It's not fun to play versus worse players. Even if I start winning now, i have to win 100 games right now to up a division (1 LP a win). I'm getting majorly frustrated playing the games I am now, hence I'm starting another account. Now if we could PLEASE get to my original question, that would be great :/
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On May 29 2013 06:14 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 03:14 Mogwai wrote:On May 29 2013 00:35 BlackPaladin wrote:
Damn smash was only a d player? D:
Figured he'd be like high c at least.
I was c- at my highest. There is such a huge discrepency from d to c it's like bronze/silver league lol.
Like i had 100 apm max cause i suck dick, so i mainly won games off of strategy and better micro (i used to be able to micro like a boss in scbw from all those UMS lotr defense games, hue). But my macro sucked cock due to it. If i needed to micro it meant my macro went to shit ;-; so when i was done microing in a fight i'd have a billion resources but no troops and would instadie. na man, I was fraudulent as fuck at broodwar. thank god LoL came along so that I could actually be good at a game among TLers. I guess to be fair, I didn't even try to play BW competitively until like Fall 08, but yea, still sucked. On May 29 2013 02:11 Ketara wrote:On May 29 2013 01:54 nafta wrote:On May 29 2013 01:50 Ketara wrote:
By the way, I've been doing a thing when I play Zac. I know this isn't standard but tell me what you guys think about it.
I've been maxing E first instead of W, and then since I have real short cooldown jumps early, I take Exhaust instead of Flash. Then in teamfights I dive into the backline and exhaust the enemy carry before bouncing around.
I think it is a little less damage but a lot more utility early and a better late game.
Thoughts? If you are talking about jungle maxing e is standart.Maxing w isn't standart on neither top nor jungle. All of the Zacs at the all stars were maxing W first, from what I saw. I would be incredibly surprised if this is accurate. E max first is sooooo much better. haha are BW players usually good at LoL? I was C+ in BW and though I did improve quite fast at LoL (silver 1 within 4 months of starting/playing moba) my group of friends who were bad at BW seem to better at LoL than those who were good at BW. Out of my 6 friends, I was the best at BW. Now I'm in the middle while the friend who was the worst is now Diamond 5, the 2nd worst is Gold 3, and the rest vary between bronze 1 to gold 5. Granted they've been playing for a year more than me but interesting nonetheless.
I reached B+ one season in ICCUP and was regularly around B in PGTour and ICCup and I can't break Silver in LoL.. I'm so bad at this game but I still love it :p
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On May 29 2013 06:52 Arisen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 06:22 JonGalt wrote:On May 29 2013 06:11 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 05:11 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 05:00 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 04:54 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 04:45 Arisen wrote:
So, im starting another account because I'm tired of dealing with my ranked game bug, What bug? Im losing 6 or more times the LP per ranked game than I win (usually 1LP per win, 6-25 per loss). I also seem to get a lot of AFK/DCs, etc. I've been told its because LoL thinks my MMR or whatever should be lower so it's trying to get me to where it wants me by making me lose more points than I could possibly gain (I had a friend tell me that he thinks they're putting me on the team with the lower combined MMR as well, but I think it's just a coincidence that I get quite a lot of DCs/AFKs). That's not a bug, not even close to one..... Either bug or working as intended, I was in high silver when i stopped playing, now that I've started playing again after a long hiatus, I've worked my way almost down to bronze 3 because of this issue. It's no fun for me as a play much worse players than myself only to keep dropping because LoL thinks my MMR should be lower so i can finally reach some equilibrium then steamroll back up. If it is an intended function, I think it's decidedly unfun. I don't want to sound like a negative nancy or the broken record that is the TL attitude of ignore LP but... 1) Do you think that your "long hiatus" has anything to do with losing now? OR 2) Ignore LP because it means nothing and just focus on improving. And if you don't like any of those, how about blame ELO/MMR decay due to inactivity and just wait it out because it will fix itself. Starting a new account for the sole purpose of getting into ranked again seems like a waste of runes, champs, IP, RP, and hard work! If you just want a smurf for playing with friends, then that's different. Or if you want to ignore this and go back to 2002 and make a new BWLoL account because it doesn't show your "true" skill, then have fun Oh em gee, I am blowin' up my post count tonight. 1) I'm positive my "long Hiatus" has nothing to do with me losing now. I had played dota during my haitus, my mechanics are better than ever. The only thing i have to improve is my game knowledge. I'm playing support mostly, I always end up positive during my games, i place a ton of wards. I counter ward. People either go afk or go off 1v5 and die over and over and feed people. 2) My league keeps dropping, so I'm playing worse and worse players. It's not fun to play versus worse players. Even if I start winning now, i have to win 100 games right now to up a division (1 LP a win). I'm getting majorly frustrated playing the games I am now, hence I'm starting another account. Now if we could PLEASE get to my original question, that would be great :/
Well I from what I got you like mobile champs with roam potential so:
top:Rengar/Jayce(mid too)/Shen and if you like splitpushing you can try ad trynd he is pretty decent
jungle:Sejuani/zac/hecarim/j4
mid:Kha/zed/ahri
ad:If you like ashe you should try varus.He is best ad atm imo(but I am from eu so that makes it obvious lol).Also draven/twitch/cait are REALLY good at snowballing and carrying games.
supp:Thresh/sona are the obvious suggestions.You could try alistar.He is pretty decent since you can solo ad-s at 6 and just carry your ad by killing enemies.
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