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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Jizla
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland235 Posts
May 16 2013 18:02 GMT
#341
On May 17 2013 00:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 00:14 thenexusp wrote:
On May 16 2013 23:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
So last night, about an hour before the servers go down for patch update, my account randomly kicks me off and says someone else has logged in from a different pc. I panic and immediately try to go change my password on leagueoflegends.com but I'm not fast enough. In addition to informing Rioters on Skype with what happened and emailing support, I log on a smurf and decide to talk to the guy on my account.

Long story short, this person at first tries to extort me for $150 to get my own account back because that's apparently how much my account costs in terms of skins but finally decides to return my account to me because he was in a good mood and he was utterly surprised at why I wasn't raging at him (spent the hour talking to him about why he did this, was this a targeted decision, etc.) Only loss was the 5200 RP of him sending my account to EUW and me having to ship it back to NA. npnp

What I get away from this ordeal is that being patient with people pays off and Riot seriously needs to update their password recovery system, it's pretty atrocious for the popularity and size of something like League.

Moving on to a more relevant topic. I, NeoIllusions, am a scumbag Rumble player. He was definitely one of my go to champions for Top Lane. That said, I'll need to playtest Rumble myself today but I have a strong feeling that he's rather gutted. I think the Flamespitter change I could have lived with but holy shit that Harpoon nerf hurts. Not simply on a harassment level but the fact that Rumble usually has to use Harpoons to last hit against a severe lane bully.

Assuming I will eventually retire Rumble because of this patch (because I subscribe to Slayer91's sentiments of practicing a small pool of champions to actually get better with them), I'm considering picking up Zac instead because he fits a similar niche. He functions as a AP/Tanky champion with a solid form of initiation.

Edit: All this Nami talk is a little amusing. We were talking about Nami yesterday in staff chat and I drew parallels between her and early release Lulu. Obviously after many, many months of Lulu, there's no arguing that Glitterlance max is the way to go. But do you remember that initially people tried to max E first and thought, "pff, Lulu's just a shitty version of Janna".

So yeah, don't tunnel vision when it comes to Supports. They don't all fit the same roles and don't try to cookie-cutter them into a playstyle that doesn't suit them. That said, I still strongly stand by Q max Nami is the proper way to build her. Vastly superior to W max or E max.

Have you figured out how he got your password in the first place? If you don't address the root problem the vulnerability might still be there.

Keylogger?
Compromised email?
Shared pw with some other compromised service?
Told a "friend" once?
Just too easy to guess pw?
EDIT: Social-engineered Riot support?


I wasn't compromised, I scan everything regularly and immediately last night when I lost control of my account. I trust my friends. Not to bad mouth Riot but the person said I was targeted at random because my account was a beta account and one of the first 1500. He didn't seems to know who I was or that I work for Riot when I tried to insinuate it.


Not to sound like a noob, but you work for Riot?!?! Am I the only person on this forum that didnt know that lol
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 16 2013 18:02 GMT
#342
On May 17 2013 02:54 Nos- wrote:
Not sure if everyone's seen the Garena all-star video but Harleluyer is anime as hell

he is cuter than Nyjacky. (no homo)
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 18:12:39
May 16 2013 18:05 GMT
#343
On May 17 2013 01:41 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:35 thenexusp wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:33 Alaric wrote:
I hate how Viktor's R stops following people as soon as them use some kind of movement ability. Makes for 50hp escapes because once dead you can't redirect it.

It could be worse. Tibbers just straight-up dies when Annie dies.

If Annie was released today, she would respawn with % HP equal to % Tibbers HP whenever she dies and Tibbers is still up after X seconds.


If annie was released today, her E would passively grant 2/4/6/8/10% spellvamp and MPen, her W would set enemies on fire, could be cast again within 2 seconds to AOE heal allies, and her Q would proc the W dot for bonus damage. Her mana costs would be halved, and her passive would be every 3 spell casts. Tibbers would set the ground on fire as he walked, and would explode on death for additional fire damage.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 16 2013 18:15 GMT
#344
On May 17 2013 03:02 jimthelege wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 00:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
On May 17 2013 00:14 thenexusp wrote:
On May 16 2013 23:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
So last night, about an hour before the servers go down for patch update, my account randomly kicks me off and says someone else has logged in from a different pc. I panic and immediately try to go change my password on leagueoflegends.com but I'm not fast enough. In addition to informing Rioters on Skype with what happened and emailing support, I log on a smurf and decide to talk to the guy on my account.

Long story short, this person at first tries to extort me for $150 to get my own account back because that's apparently how much my account costs in terms of skins but finally decides to return my account to me because he was in a good mood and he was utterly surprised at why I wasn't raging at him (spent the hour talking to him about why he did this, was this a targeted decision, etc.) Only loss was the 5200 RP of him sending my account to EUW and me having to ship it back to NA. npnp

What I get away from this ordeal is that being patient with people pays off and Riot seriously needs to update their password recovery system, it's pretty atrocious for the popularity and size of something like League.

Moving on to a more relevant topic. I, NeoIllusions, am a scumbag Rumble player. He was definitely one of my go to champions for Top Lane. That said, I'll need to playtest Rumble myself today but I have a strong feeling that he's rather gutted. I think the Flamespitter change I could have lived with but holy shit that Harpoon nerf hurts. Not simply on a harassment level but the fact that Rumble usually has to use Harpoons to last hit against a severe lane bully.

Assuming I will eventually retire Rumble because of this patch (because I subscribe to Slayer91's sentiments of practicing a small pool of champions to actually get better with them), I'm considering picking up Zac instead because he fits a similar niche. He functions as a AP/Tanky champion with a solid form of initiation.

Edit: All this Nami talk is a little amusing. We were talking about Nami yesterday in staff chat and I drew parallels between her and early release Lulu. Obviously after many, many months of Lulu, there's no arguing that Glitterlance max is the way to go. But do you remember that initially people tried to max E first and thought, "pff, Lulu's just a shitty version of Janna".

So yeah, don't tunnel vision when it comes to Supports. They don't all fit the same roles and don't try to cookie-cutter them into a playstyle that doesn't suit them. That said, I still strongly stand by Q max Nami is the proper way to build her. Vastly superior to W max or E max.

Have you figured out how he got your password in the first place? If you don't address the root problem the vulnerability might still be there.

Keylogger?
Compromised email?
Shared pw with some other compromised service?
Told a "friend" once?
Just too easy to guess pw?
EDIT: Social-engineered Riot support?


I wasn't compromised, I scan everything regularly and immediately last night when I lost control of my account. I trust my friends. Not to bad mouth Riot but the person said I was targeted at random because my account was a beta account and one of the first 1500. He didn't seems to know who I was or that I work for Riot when I tried to insinuate it.


Not to sound like a noob, but you work for Riot?!?! Am I the only person on this forum that didnt know that lol

Currently a contractor.
http://na.lolesports.com/season3/summerpromotion/articles/na-lcs-summer-promotion-concludes
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 16 2013 18:17 GMT
#345
On May 17 2013 03:05 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:41 xes wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:35 thenexusp wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:33 Alaric wrote:
I hate how Viktor's R stops following people as soon as them use some kind of movement ability. Makes for 50hp escapes because once dead you can't redirect it.

It could be worse. Tibbers just straight-up dies when Annie dies.

If Annie was released today, she would respawn with % HP equal to % Tibbers HP whenever she dies and Tibbers is still up after X seconds.


If annie was released today, her E would passively grant 2/4/6/8/10% spellvamp and MPen, her W would set enemies on fire, could be cast again within 2 seconds to AOE heal allies, and her Q would proc the W dot for bonus damage. Her mana costs would be halved, and her passive would be every 3 spell casts. Tibbers would set the ground on fire as he walked, and would explode on death for additional fire damage.


i just had a ptsd flashback of the burning menace/general gravicius on merciless from path of exile.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 18:19:28
May 16 2013 18:18 GMT
#346
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3449932

FINALLY!

Riot endorses pick order.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 16 2013 18:20 GMT
#347
On May 17 2013 03:18 Cheap0 wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3449932

FINALLY!

Riot endorses pick order.


Nice. Very very nice. Now there's a page to which I can link idiots.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 16 2013 18:20 GMT
#348
On May 17 2013 02:46 Diamond wrote:
Hit my end of season goal already last night!

[image loading]

New nunu jungle looks godly, pretty sad I refunded my Nunu Bot skin at the start of S3.


Congrats man. I've lost 2 series now trying to get same goal so good at least one of us made it
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 18:24:55
May 16 2013 18:24 GMT
#349
On May 17 2013 03:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 03:18 Cheap0 wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3449932

FINALLY!

Riot endorses pick order.


Nice. Very very nice. Now there's a page to which I can link idiots.


While it doesn't really do much since there's not any enforcement, at least it gives us a foundation for our arguments when you've got some prick insisting on their favorite role as last pick. I'm mostly heartened by Riot recognizing problems with Champion Select and trying to address them.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 16 2013 18:26 GMT
#350
Wait hasn't it been well known that higher pick gets to decide what to play?I have thought it was like that ever since I started ranked in s1 lol.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 16 2013 18:27 GMT
#351
nah, most people switch between call/pick as a matter of convenience

high pick? pick order
low pick? call order
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22700 Posts
May 16 2013 18:27 GMT
#352
On May 17 2013 03:26 nafta wrote:
Wait hasn't it been well known that higher pick gets to decide what to play?I have thought it was like that ever since I started ranked in s1 lol.


Some people always think that the first one to shout gets it. And no this wont stop them from doing so.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 16 2013 18:28 GMT
#353
On May 17 2013 02:53 Lounge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 23:50 NeoIllusions wrote:

Moving on to a more relevant topic. I, NeoIllusions, am a scumbag Rumble player. He was definitely one of my go to champions for Top Lane. That said, I'll need to playtest Rumble myself today but I have a strong feeling that he's rather gutted. I think the Flamespitter change I could have lived with but holy shit that Harpoon nerf hurts. Not simply on a harassment level but the fact that Rumble usually has to use Harpoons to last hit against a severe lane bully.

Yeah, when they first introduced the harpoon nerf but danger zone buff it was even in the danger zone, but a nerf outside of it. So it hurt hurt last hitting and being able to 1vs2, but wouldn't have been too big of a deal to SoloQ. Removing the danger zone increase just hurts the spell a lot. One of the more satisfying moments as a Rumble is hitting some dangerzone harpoons for tons of damage.

What shocks me the most everytime I look at the harpoons is the 90% slow if you hit both on the same target at level 5. o_o
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
May 16 2013 18:29 GMT
#354
On May 17 2013 03:05 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:41 xes wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:35 thenexusp wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:33 Alaric wrote:
I hate how Viktor's R stops following people as soon as them use some kind of movement ability. Makes for 50hp escapes because once dead you can't redirect it.

It could be worse. Tibbers just straight-up dies when Annie dies.

If Annie was released today, she would respawn with % HP equal to % Tibbers HP whenever she dies and Tibbers is still up after X seconds.


If annie was released today, her E would passively grant 2/4/6/8/10% spellvamp and MPen, her W would set enemies on fire, could be cast again within 2 seconds to AOE heal allies, and her Q would proc the W dot for bonus damage. Her mana costs would be halved, and her passive would be every 3 spell casts. Tibbers would set the ground on fire as he walked, and would explode on death for additional fire damage.


Perception is everything. If Annie was released today she'd have a ~60% winrate because players wouldn't expect her level 6 burst, didn't see her passive buff, and wouldn't know to be wary of the range of flash tibbers.

Then Riot would knee jerk nerf her and everyone would figure her out anyway and she'd get slated for a remake as a viable mid and support.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 16 2013 18:33 GMT
#355
On May 17 2013 03:26 nafta wrote:
Wait hasn't it been well known that higher pick gets to decide what to play?I have thought it was like that ever since I started ranked in s1 lol.


In season 1 I encountered so many people who would rage that it was call order and then troll. Season 2 it was slightly better. Season 3 almost no one whines about pick order anymore.
Jizla
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland235 Posts
May 16 2013 18:35 GMT
#356
On May 17 2013 03:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 03:02 jimthelege wrote:
On May 17 2013 00:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
On May 17 2013 00:14 thenexusp wrote:
On May 16 2013 23:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
So last night, about an hour before the servers go down for patch update, my account randomly kicks me off and says someone else has logged in from a different pc. I panic and immediately try to go change my password on leagueoflegends.com but I'm not fast enough. In addition to informing Rioters on Skype with what happened and emailing support, I log on a smurf and decide to talk to the guy on my account.

Long story short, this person at first tries to extort me for $150 to get my own account back because that's apparently how much my account costs in terms of skins but finally decides to return my account to me because he was in a good mood and he was utterly surprised at why I wasn't raging at him (spent the hour talking to him about why he did this, was this a targeted decision, etc.) Only loss was the 5200 RP of him sending my account to EUW and me having to ship it back to NA. npnp

What I get away from this ordeal is that being patient with people pays off and Riot seriously needs to update their password recovery system, it's pretty atrocious for the popularity and size of something like League.

Moving on to a more relevant topic. I, NeoIllusions, am a scumbag Rumble player. He was definitely one of my go to champions for Top Lane. That said, I'll need to playtest Rumble myself today but I have a strong feeling that he's rather gutted. I think the Flamespitter change I could have lived with but holy shit that Harpoon nerf hurts. Not simply on a harassment level but the fact that Rumble usually has to use Harpoons to last hit against a severe lane bully.

Assuming I will eventually retire Rumble because of this patch (because I subscribe to Slayer91's sentiments of practicing a small pool of champions to actually get better with them), I'm considering picking up Zac instead because he fits a similar niche. He functions as a AP/Tanky champion with a solid form of initiation.

Edit: All this Nami talk is a little amusing. We were talking about Nami yesterday in staff chat and I drew parallels between her and early release Lulu. Obviously after many, many months of Lulu, there's no arguing that Glitterlance max is the way to go. But do you remember that initially people tried to max E first and thought, "pff, Lulu's just a shitty version of Janna".

So yeah, don't tunnel vision when it comes to Supports. They don't all fit the same roles and don't try to cookie-cutter them into a playstyle that doesn't suit them. That said, I still strongly stand by Q max Nami is the proper way to build her. Vastly superior to W max or E max.

Have you figured out how he got your password in the first place? If you don't address the root problem the vulnerability might still be there.

Keylogger?
Compromised email?
Shared pw with some other compromised service?
Told a "friend" once?
Just too easy to guess pw?
EDIT: Social-engineered Riot support?


I wasn't compromised, I scan everything regularly and immediately last night when I lost control of my account. I trust my friends. Not to bad mouth Riot but the person said I was targeted at random because my account was a beta account and one of the first 1500. He didn't seems to know who I was or that I work for Riot when I tried to insinuate it.


Not to sound like a noob, but you work for Riot?!?! Am I the only person on this forum that didnt know that lol

Currently a contractor.
http://na.lolesports.com/season3/summerpromotion/articles/na-lcs-summer-promotion-concludes


Very nice!!! Congrats!
Vanished.... Like a wrinkly ninja.....
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 16 2013 18:35 GMT
#357
On May 17 2013 03:27 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 03:26 nafta wrote:
Wait hasn't it been well known that higher pick gets to decide what to play?I have thought it was like that ever since I started ranked in s1 lol.


Some people always think that the first one to shout gets it. And no this wont stop them from doing so.

It won't. But it will get them banned for it.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
May 16 2013 18:37 GMT
#358
On May 17 2013 03:33 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 03:26 nafta wrote:
Wait hasn't it been well known that higher pick gets to decide what to play?I have thought it was like that ever since I started ranked in s1 lol.


In season 1 I encountered so many people who would rage that it was call order and then troll. Season 2 it was slightly better. Season 3 almost no one whines about pick order anymore.

lol from my experience ~gold theres atleast 1 person whining every game that he called top/mid and somebody else took it
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 16 2013 18:38 GMT
#359
agreed, from my experience ever since season 3 there's maybe 1 guy in 30-40 games who plays the "I CALLED FIRST" game, usually it's just everyone picking silently now lol
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23464 Posts
May 16 2013 18:39 GMT
#360
saw someone browsing reddit/LoL and reading a article about riots method of solving toxic players in front of me on the train today.
real
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