[Patch 3.07: Nerf Everything Not Nami] General Discussion…

On May 16 2013 23:20 Requizen wrote:

Maxing her heal is like maxing Taric's heal. I mean sure, you're getting more healing... but his other skills are much better to max prior. Same for Nami, people don't realize how good Q and E are, I see so many solo queue Namis focusing on W.

On May 16 2013 23:21 Sponkz wrote:
The first time i saw koreans using nami that support went some weird shit like QWEEW, R > E > W > Q. I don't think Q should be maxed, neither W. The bounce seems strong on paper, but in reality it's meh.

That support (i can't remember who), also played her alot like janna, using only Q defensively if the enemy tried to engage, then giving either Nami or the AD the E buff depending on positioning to even out the trade.

On May 16 2013 23:38 Ketara wrote:
So, you can disable moving by clicking the minimap, but can't disable casting skills by clicking the minimap.

Kinda dumb, I have had 3-4 instances in my career of going bot lane, trying to laser somebody on Lux, clicking the minimap instead and firing the thing towards dragon.

On May 16 2013 23:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Leveling E increases its mana costs, so while there is a big increase in damage, I find it rather hard to really take advantage of w/o a chalice or mana regen runes. I don't like chalice on Nami very much, as its upgrades are overkill on mana. Generally its a good idea to prioritize spells that do not increase in mana cost and decrease CD (and increase effect duration and damage).

I play Nami very unconventionally though. I tend to build a sightstone, then just rush a bilgewater and then a Bork. The active slows make it even easier to hit Q, and the item along with her kit makes her a very strong anti-bruiser/tank/diver.

On May 16 2013 23:53 mordek wrote:
So I was saving IP for Diana to round out my pool more and she was lots of fun on free weeks but now this nerf. However, I get stuck playing AD or support a lot in team 5s. I have my support page but I don't have lifesteal quints yet for AD. Diana or Lifesteal quints? D: I grind IP so slowly lol.

On May 16 2013 23:53 mordek wrote:
So I was saving IP for Diana to round out my pool more and she was lots of fun on free weeks but now this nerf. However, I get stuck playing AD or support a lot in team 5s. I have my support page but I don't have lifesteal quints yet for AD. Diana or Lifesteal quints? D: I grind IP so slowly lol.

On May 16 2013 23:57 NeoIllusions wrote:

Assuming you're like a lot of other people I know and entirely unlike me (miserly), you want to spend IP pretty much as soon as you get it. Diana is a better buy than Lifesteal Quints. New champion is a new champion. With Lifesteal Quints, you have to play a very clean and efficient ADC to really appreciate those Quints. Otherwise, your standard AD Quints work absolutely fine.

Go with the new champion over new runes 90% of the time. Runes are very, very specific (sup Mixed Pen Marks that I bought last month).

On May 17 2013 00:01 Sermokala wrote:
I max W in lanes that are lost so my adc doesn't get super behind in harass and their adc doens't get too much hp to suvive a turret dive.

The thing about nami is that she doesn't have any real standoff weapons if you don't w max. a lulu can just glitter lance you and walk away. But oh god she supports ganks well and can turn around trades like janna only dreams she could.

On May 17 2013 00:05 NeoIllusions wrote:

hey, Janna is pretty awsum when it comes to off. or def. support. It's all about landing your Q. If you miss your Q, you can't talk. :X

On May 17 2013 00:05 sylverfyre wrote:
The Asians are all running 2 lifesteal quints instead of 3, if that influences your decision? (Lifesteal quints are cheaper if you look at it that way)

On May 17 2013 00:09 AsmodeusXI wrote:


According to my lolking or w/e Janna is my best support. Recently had a game where I went 1/1/30 in a 40 kill game. SO AWESUM DAT JANNA.

On May 16 2013 23:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
So last night, about an hour before the servers go down for patch update, my account randomly kicks me off and says someone else has logged in from a different pc. I panic and immediately try to go change my password on leagueoflegends.com but I'm not fast enough. In addition to informing Rioters on Skype with what happened and emailing support, I log on a smurf and decide to talk to the guy on my account.

Long story short, this person at first tries to extort me for $150 to get my own account back because that's apparently how much my account costs in terms of skins but finally decides to return my account to me because he was in a good mood and he was utterly surprised at why I wasn't raging at him (spent the hour talking to him about why he did this, was this a targeted decision, etc.) Only loss was the 5200 RP of him sending my account to EUW and me having to ship it back to NA. npnp

What I get away from this ordeal is that being patient with people pays off and Riot seriously needs to update their password recovery system, it's pretty atrocious for the popularity and size of something like League.

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Moving on to a more relevant topic. I, NeoIllusions, am a scumbag Rumble player. He was definitely one of my go to champions for Top Lane. That said, I'll need to playtest Rumble myself today but I have a strong feeling that he's rather gutted. I think the Flamespitter change I could have lived with but holy shit that Harpoon nerf hurts. Not simply on a harassment level but the fact that Rumble usually has to use Harpoons to last hit against a severe lane bully.

Assuming I will eventually retire Rumble because of this patch (because I subscribe to Slayer91's sentiments of practicing a small pool of champions to actually get better with them), I'm considering picking up Zac instead because he fits a similar niche. He functions as a AP/Tanky champion with a solid form of initiation.

Edit: All this Nami talk is a little amusing. We were talking about Nami yesterday in staff chat and I drew parallels between her and early release Lulu. Obviously after many, many months of Lulu, there's no arguing that Glitterlance max is the way to go. But do you remember that initially people tried to max E first and thought, "pff, Lulu's just a shitty version of Janna".

So yeah, don't tunnel vision when it comes to Supports. They don't all fit the same roles and don't try to cookie-cutter them into a playstyle that doesn't suit them. That said, I still strongly stand by Q max Nami is the proper way to build her. Vastly superior to W max or E max.