EPT[Patch 3.07: Nerf Everything Not Nami] General Discussion…
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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3 If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6173 Posts
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On May 16 2013 18:56 ihasaKAROT wrote: Rumble wasnt that good, atleast not if he was on my team. On the other team he was a god ofcourse This my friends is what I call 'pantheon syndrome'. If he is on your team he rushes a philo and is 0/4 with 80 cs at 20 minutes. If he is on the enemy team he has BC/BT at 15 and is one shotting everyone. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
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Agnosthar
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On May 16 2013 20:14 Agnosthar wrote: With the Cassio change, should we be building Muramana now for the single target Twin Fang? Seraph's probably better. I think someone did the math on Muramana v. Seraphs for Ryze and found that unless you're at 100% mana Seraphs does more damage due to the AP. This is probably even more true for Cassiopeia since she scales so well off of AP. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On May 16 2013 20:14 Agnosthar wrote: With the Cassio change, should we be building Muramana now for the single target Twin Fang? doubt it. the muramana change to physical dmg destroyed muramana for ap casters imo (players tend to have more armor than mr anyway + no penetration). It's the same for ryze, archangel is better now. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On May 16 2013 20:25 Keniji wrote: doubt it. the muramana change to physical dmg destroyed muramana for ap casters imo (players tend to have more armor than mr anyway + no penetration). It's the same for ryze, archangel is better now. Seraphs was arguably always better than Muramana for Ryze. Ryze has enough damage and just honestly just needs to stay alive to deal sustained dps making the shield very strong. On top of that the AP from Seraphs gives more damage than Muramana after the first rotation of spells since Muramana damage scales off of current mana. Muramana was more burst, Seraphs was better sustained damage. | ||
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La1
United Kingdom659 Posts
 is diana a nurf of a buff? I have felt she has been way to strong for AGES | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On May 16 2013 20:32 La1 wrote: Why the rammus nurf is diana a nurf of a buff? I have felt she has been way to strong for AGES I feel like that was intended to be a buff/quality of life improvement to prevent people from blowing their taunt on creeps when ganking. Although I suppose it might slow down your jungling a tiny tiny bit since you cant give monsters that -armor from taunt anymore... Diana got nerfed. 100%. If Diana pops all 3 orbs and instantly refreshes her shield, her new shield gives only 45 more shield hp. If Diana loses the shield before popping the orbs she loses out on 110 shield hp. She also loses a significant chunk of damage. 40 damage on passive and 30 damage on her W. It's just a big nerf all around. I don't like it, but it was not unwarranted. | ||
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Agnosthar
631 Posts
On May 16 2013 20:32 La1 wrote: Why the rammus nurf is diana a nurf of a buff? I have felt she has been way to strong for AGES Massive nerfs, toning down her damage from passive and her survivability from the shield. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Basically it's a laning phase nerf. Zac not nerfed enough, calling it. On May 16 2013 14:02 Ryuu314 wrote: From my very limited experience with Nami I feel that maxing W over E feels very underwhelming since her W is kinda mediocre unless you get all the bounces and it can't hit the same target twice. The bounce range is also kinda bad. At the same time, maxing E doesn't feel all that great unless your lane partner or you can really take advantage of the 3 hits. What? It's 875, that's pretty big. On May 16 2013 13:59 Capped wrote: EU server still not down O.o Dunno about NA but they didn't go down at all on EUW it seems, no patch now. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
Still waiting for more Thresh nerfs and more Quinn buffs. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On May 16 2013 21:19 nafta wrote: If you max q and they have a graves/vayne/ez/cait how do you land a q without ultimate?Unless the enemy ad walks into it you can't do it.I've played her a few times and in teamfights/skirmishes she is amazing but her laning is really bad. Well, if they're in a fight, they have to move out of the way and waste time, lowering their dps. I think TL has been pretty clear on how pretty much all of Nami's moves are counter-initiation. Initiating a fight with Q will always be hard, but hitting a Q when stuff's already happening is way easier. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On May 16 2013 21:36 Dark_Chill wrote: Well, if they're in a fight, they have to move out of the way and waste time, lowering their dps. I think TL has been pretty clear on how pretty much all of Nami's moves are counter-initiation. Initiating a fight with Q will always be hard, but hitting a Q when stuff's already happening is way easier. That's my whole point.Why max q when it is unreliable?Don't you max what is strongest in lane on every champ ever?Maxing q pretty much makes her useless if you don't have ult or varus unless they are bad really. That's one of the main reasons she isn't played much.You can't solo win lane by poking or just killing. | ||
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Xayoz
Estonia373 Posts
On May 16 2013 21:25 Kickboxer wrote: Bye Elise, it was fun Meh. Bonus armor/mr remove seems a pretty inconsequential nerf to her (for the toplaner part at least, never jungled her tho). She remains strong. Players may now disable moving their champion via right-clicking on the minimap in the options menu. Fuck yeah! Will certainly save me from some derpy deaths. Nami! Totally forgot I had her, skin and all. :D Should give her another go - been recently having a lots of fun with Lissandra sup tho. | ||
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