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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 04 2013 03:07 GMT
#1301
On May 04 2013 11:53 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 11:52 Simberto wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:24 overt wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 04 2013 10:55 ticklishmusic wrote:
i have a feeling he's a vampire hunter for some reason, and will have some troll interaction with vlad

Ugh goddamn it I still have to buy Lissandra, maybe Sej, Zed....fuck I felt like I was just beginning to see a light at the end of the 'catching up and owning all champs' tunnel when Riot took 80 years to release Lissandra but if a new champ was already leaked....


Riot announced (but I don't have a link sorry) that they're only going to be releasing one champion a month at max for the foreseeable future. So if you play enough to grind up 6300 IP a week you'll catch up eventually.

Lol more like 6300 every other month.


Even less, since older champions IP costs get lowered over time.


He meant that's his pace of acquiring IP, which will leave him never coming anywhere close to catching up to the full roster(in fact it might actually mean he falls further behind, could easily math it out since the IP reductions are set in stone at this point correct?).

I used to be right on pace, 6300 every 2-3 weeks depending but now yeah I'm gonna fall wayyy behind. All I can usually afford is win of the day so that's like 200 IP/day to get 10 more champs, one of which is 4800 currently. I have about 3k IP currently.

GO GO MATH GENIUSES YOU HAVE ALL THE INFO
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 04 2013 03:10 GMT
#1302
On May 04 2013 09:16 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/05/leak-potential-upcoming-champion-gun.html

Black champion?

OMG OMG OMG

+ Show Spoiler +
I bet he has a high movement speed and a long range jump... oh and he was on the same college basketball team as Darius. Bonus damage to Anivia. Is friends with Lulu.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 04 2013 03:12 GMT
#1303
I dunno, I never really cared about owning every champion. Owning every single rune though...
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 04 2013 03:14 GMT
#1304
In my head I'm just having a hard time separating that fact GGU playing so well in the playoff had the direct consequence of dig getting relegated. I see GGU deserved to win, they outplayed dig and that's great, but the fact the 3rd place team is fighting for survival is pretty shitty. I guess a Bo3 is just such of a small number of games for such a big consequence as relegation. Like some people have said, this is partially a result of the small number of teams, hard to have a meaningful playoff when 75% of the teams qualify. Expanding to even just 12 might be a good idea.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
May 04 2013 03:18 GMT
#1305
On May 04 2013 12:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 09:16 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/05/leak-potential-upcoming-champion-gun.html

Black champion?

OMG OMG OMG

+ Show Spoiler +
I bet he has a high movement speed and a long range jump... oh and he was on the same college basketball team as Darius. Bonus damage to Anivia. Is friends with Lulu.



He's like Alucard and Blade had a love child. I like it. He'll be friends with Vayne, hate Vlad, and will claim the title of most badass ad carry from Graves.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 04 2013 03:20 GMT
#1306
On May 04 2013 12:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 09:16 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/05/leak-potential-upcoming-champion-gun.html

Black champion?

OMG OMG OMG

+ Show Spoiler +
I bet he has a high movement speed and a long range jump... oh and he was on the same college basketball team as Darius. Bonus damage to Anivia. Is friends with Lulu.


He's definitely friends with Sona... a mute white woman with some cake is like, a black man's dream.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 04 2013 03:22 GMT
#1307
On May 04 2013 12:20 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 12:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
On May 04 2013 09:16 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/05/leak-potential-upcoming-champion-gun.html

Black champion?

OMG OMG OMG

+ Show Spoiler +
I bet he has a high movement speed and a long range jump... oh and he was on the same college basketball team as Darius. Bonus damage to Anivia. Is friends with Lulu.


He's definitely friends with Sona... a mute white woman with some cake is like, a black man's dream.

Except Sona's Ionian by birth, which, given the other champs from Ionia, means she's Asian.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 03:30:07
May 04 2013 03:23 GMT
#1308
On the forums Classick talked about some possible changes to Rengar, including having his Empowered abilities scale with level and buffing his ult but altering enemies that it has been used near them (like Destiny I assume)

(Source)
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 03:31:14
May 04 2013 03:24 GMT
#1309
On May 04 2013 12:05 OutlaW- wrote:
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On May 04 2013 11:53 Mondeezy wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:43 OutlaW- wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:37 Mondeezy wrote:
I feel like I've been at a halt of self improvement for the past month. Tried taking a one week break, didn't help too much.

I've tried to watch streams (I used to learn a lot watching Voy but lately I only ever see him do trolly/experimental stuff) but don't feel like I learn much other than learning mid from Ecco.

Tips? Trying to break that plat barrier as I'm only a few games away, then hopefully diamond near the end of the season.

Don't die. Don't miss creeps, don't stand around doing nothing. Don't miss plays. I don't know what else to say. There are some soloq specific things you could be doing, but there isn't much more to League than that. Maybe you could upload a replay or a vod or something?


I can try to stream and record the broadcast later tonight if my computer decides it wants to let me, haha.

It's more of a decision making/tilting problem. Like, I feel like I've lost sense of when to trade or when to farm. I used to play heavily aggro on Akali and almost always won lane/game majority of the time (she's my highest WR champ). Tried it today, got completely dumped on. I don't really know how to play from behind because I'm not used to it. Occasionally I'd have those games where I go 0/4, but a majority of the time I'd know how to handle each matchup. Should I just start playing passive/farming when I fall behind? What if I get zoned (ex. TF vs Diana - I was TF, was slightly ahead, thought I could win a trade when I couldn't, ended up falling to 1-3-0 and had to practically support the rest of the game), should I just let them take tower and hope my team wins?

There's no reason to play aggressively in the mid lane if you're behind (on kill potential, that is to say you can't win the 1v1).
Freezing middle is almost impossible and most of the time the Diana will just push and go do wraiths/roam, in which case you can get those creeps for free under your tower. You also only have to walk half the distance that she does in the case that she roams, so you have like 5 seconds of free time where you can do anything (i.e. get those creeps). This applies for top, too, despite the fact that many people don't know. If there's nothing you can do in your lane, just roam bottom. You're still stronger than anyone (ad, support, jungler) and you can easily make game winning plays despite the fact that you'd get your shit slapped in top lane. Akali is especially good for this because her lane ganks are unreal, provided bottom has at least one CC.

If you don't know when to trade, just trade and see what happens. Afterwards, try analyzing why you won/lost the trade, and use this knowledge for the next game. People shouldn't be too shortsighted, as improvement is much more important than one or two wins. It also depends who you're against. Akali completely rapes some lanes and gets completely raped by others. Diana, Darius, anyone who's a shortrange dueler will absolutely crush you, in which case you should simply farm, wait for a gank, wait for the other guy to get over confident and dive you, or go roam bottom like I said. It goes without saying I think that you shouldn't fight if you can't win.

With the way snowball works in League, you can't outplay people with raw skill if you're at a disadvantage, so it's mostly decision making that's making you die. Any death is a mistake (I consider every death a mistake, unless you got 3+ kills/baron for it), and a miscalculation of sorts. Analyze what was wrong in your decision making.
For your question, it's mostly been answered, either play passively and wait for better circumstances or aggressively roam the other lanes. The most important thing is not to die. Even if it's 15 minutes and you're 50 CS behind, it doesn't matter if you've never died.

TF will almost never be able to out-trade Diana, but TF out-roams Diana, Guess what you should have done in the situation. You can also push from a big range. Towers are important but they aren't worth dying for, and if you can't defend the turret anyway you might as well try to make big plays bottom.

I'm repeating myself a lot here, because there isn't much to say without specific situations. If you want to record something, I can look at it for you. I'm not really doing much anyway


Thanks a ton for the long reply, I wasn't expecting so much but you've addressed a couple of things that I used to previously do and don't see myself doing much anymore (roaming when I can't do anything top, lack of analyzing each situation).

I think I need to start playing more passive if I lose my advantage early. I tend to get all hyphy and try to keep trading instead of taking it easy and just last hitting, so i fall behind even more in cs. Looks like I will have to just start playing less aggro and treat each lost trade as a potentially lane losing mistake.

I'm not home ATM but maybe tomm I can post one in the replay thread..

Thanks again dude!
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 04 2013 03:32 GMT
#1310
All these ARAM make me realize how OP the support champions are when given farm.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 04 2013 03:35 GMT
#1311
On May 04 2013 12:22 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 12:20 red_ wrote:
On May 04 2013 12:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
On May 04 2013 09:16 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/05/leak-potential-upcoming-champion-gun.html

Black champion?

OMG OMG OMG

+ Show Spoiler +
I bet he has a high movement speed and a long range jump... oh and he was on the same college basketball team as Darius. Bonus damage to Anivia. Is friends with Lulu.


He's definitely friends with Sona... a mute white woman with some cake is like, a black man's dream.

Except Sona's Ionian by birth, which, given the other champs from Ionia, means she's Asian.


We are not 100% sure Sona is Ionian by birth. We only know she was found in Ionia.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 04 2013 04:06 GMT
#1312
On May 04 2013 12:35 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 12:22 TheYango wrote:
On May 04 2013 12:20 red_ wrote:
On May 04 2013 12:10 obesechicken13 wrote:
On May 04 2013 09:16 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/05/leak-potential-upcoming-champion-gun.html

Black champion?

OMG OMG OMG

+ Show Spoiler +
I bet he has a high movement speed and a long range jump... oh and he was on the same college basketball team as Darius. Bonus damage to Anivia. Is friends with Lulu.


He's definitely friends with Sona... a mute white woman with some cake is like, a black man's dream.

Except Sona's Ionian by birth, which, given the other champs from Ionia, means she's Asian.


We are not 100% sure Sona is Ionian by birth. We only know she was found in Ionia.

doesnt matter she cant say no
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 04 2013 04:06 GMT
#1313
On May 04 2013 12:32 Sufficiency wrote:
All these ARAM make me realize how OP the support champions are when given farm.


A major problem with getting supports farm is they die in solo lanes, because Riot doesn't like them taking that spot. Aram is basically an extended botlane laning phase with 3 more characters. Heimerdinger, Ziggs, and Teemo are also really strong on ARAM, it has nothing to do with farm, and everything to do with the format.
Freeeeeeedom
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 04 2013 04:09 GMT
#1314
On May 04 2013 12:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 11:53 red_ wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:52 Simberto wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:24 overt wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 04 2013 10:55 ticklishmusic wrote:
i have a feeling he's a vampire hunter for some reason, and will have some troll interaction with vlad

Ugh goddamn it I still have to buy Lissandra, maybe Sej, Zed....fuck I felt like I was just beginning to see a light at the end of the 'catching up and owning all champs' tunnel when Riot took 80 years to release Lissandra but if a new champ was already leaked....


Riot announced (but I don't have a link sorry) that they're only going to be releasing one champion a month at max for the foreseeable future. So if you play enough to grind up 6300 IP a week you'll catch up eventually.

Lol more like 6300 every other month.


Even less, since older champions IP costs get lowered over time.


He meant that's his pace of acquiring IP, which will leave him never coming anywhere close to catching up to the full roster(in fact it might actually mean he falls further behind, could easily math it out since the IP reductions are set in stone at this point correct?).

I used to be right on pace, 6300 every 2-3 weeks depending but now yeah I'm gonna fall wayyy behind. All I can usually afford is win of the day so that's like 200 IP/day to get 10 more champs, one of which is 4800 currently. I have about 3k IP currently.

GO GO MATH GENIUSES YOU HAVE ALL THE INFO

As long as you get your fwotd every day you'll not fall behind but you will never really catch up unless you squeeze in a few games extra here and there. I know i'm missing like...30 champs. But they're like...urgot...nocturne...shyvanna. Shit i don't like to play and don't want anyway lol. So don't fret about it.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 04:14:54
May 04 2013 04:14 GMT
#1315
Currently I'd say that Jayce is one of the strongest ARAM champions. You just get tear at minute 0 and stack it with every single 3 second proc by utilizing your ult etc. Then at ~12min die somehow, preferably with a kill, and return with at least a Muramana and hopefully a Brutalizer. After that point it's just a free ride.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 04 2013 04:17 GMT
#1316
On May 04 2013 13:14 Shikyo wrote:
Currently I'd say that Jayce is one of the strongest ARAM champions. You just get tear at minute 0 and stack it with every single 3 second proc by utilizing your ult etc. Then at ~12min die somehow, preferably with a kill, and return with at least a Muramana and hopefully a Brutalizer. After that point it's just a free ride.


No sustain.

Janna is wayyyyyyy better.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
May 04 2013 04:19 GMT
#1317
They're both really good, it's really hard to dodge jayce EQ though..
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 04 2013 04:20 GMT
#1318
While i do agree with shikyo for once that jayce is really gay in aram and generally tear opening is best, i one time got cheesed by a brutalizer opening jayce. Oh my god the pain. Nearly half nearly our entire teams health in one eq combo lol. The painnnn. He couldn't spam it whenever off cooldown but he made sure to hit everyone dead on. Ow.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 04 2013 04:31 GMT
#1319
On May 04 2013 12:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 11:53 red_ wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:52 Simberto wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:24 overt wrote:
On May 04 2013 11:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 04 2013 10:55 ticklishmusic wrote:
i have a feeling he's a vampire hunter for some reason, and will have some troll interaction with vlad

Ugh goddamn it I still have to buy Lissandra, maybe Sej, Zed....fuck I felt like I was just beginning to see a light at the end of the 'catching up and owning all champs' tunnel when Riot took 80 years to release Lissandra but if a new champ was already leaked....


Riot announced (but I don't have a link sorry) that they're only going to be releasing one champion a month at max for the foreseeable future. So if you play enough to grind up 6300 IP a week you'll catch up eventually.

Lol more like 6300 every other month.


Even less, since older champions IP costs get lowered over time.


He meant that's his pace of acquiring IP, which will leave him never coming anywhere close to catching up to the full roster(in fact it might actually mean he falls further behind, could easily math it out since the IP reductions are set in stone at this point correct?).

I used to be right on pace, 6300 every 2-3 weeks depending but now yeah I'm gonna fall wayyy behind. All I can usually afford is win of the day so that's like 200 IP/day to get 10 more champs, one of which is 4800 currently. I have about 3k IP currently.

GO GO MATH GENIUSES YOU HAVE ALL THE INFO

You should start playing on LoL GarenaVN. We can buy Champion first and pay later (with interest of course).
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 04 2013 04:48 GMT
#1320
On May 04 2013 13:19 OutlaW- wrote:
They're both really good, it's really hard to dodge jayce EQ though..

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