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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 00:27:54
May 12 2013 00:27 GMT
#3041
On May 12 2013 09:08 Dark_Chill wrote:
Because there's no Varus thread and I don't think I trust the guides on LoLking, can someone tell me stuff about Varus (skill order and item path). Right now for skill order I go E max first then W max, using Q more or less as another skill to detonate stacks. For build, I have no idea. I don't know if I want BotRK, BT, IE or what.

R>E>W>Q seems to be the standard. Items are IE/BotRK/BT optional as first item.

Someday I'll get that thread done.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 00:35:05
May 12 2013 00:33 GMT
#3042
Don't buy rune pages except when they're on my sale. My general IP rule is to keep a minimum of 3K so if there's a sale or something I can farm up and take advantage of it. Managed to pick up Trundle and his free traditional skin that way-- couldn't farm IP for Sejuani b/c finals OP. :/

Darius is free, try him out first. I played a couple games with him as support for lulz, he's pretty stupid. It's like Yi, enemy team gets low and you just run around and dunk them all. (Sup TROLLS inhouse)

Ancient Golem is great, but out of the Jungle you have other things you will probably build as a "core" that give the same stats. On the other hand, free burn from Elder Lizard and the spellvamp from Spectral Wraith can't really be itemized efficiently elsewhere.
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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
May 12 2013 00:50 GMT
#3043
On May 12 2013 09:27 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 09:08 Dark_Chill wrote:
Because there's no Varus thread and I don't think I trust the guides on LoLking, can someone tell me stuff about Varus (skill order and item path). Right now for skill order I go E max first then W max, using Q more or less as another skill to detonate stacks. For build, I have no idea. I don't know if I want BotRK, BT, IE or what.

R>E>W>Q seems to be the standard. Items are IE/BotRK/BT optional as first item.

Someday I'll get that thread done.


I know items are dependent on how well you do and what lane you're in, but any general tips on what to buy. I know BT is good for Varus' abilities and life steal is good, but BotRK gives him attack speed and tank killing, so also really good. I know IE is something to get if you're doing really well, but I'm not sure if it's even worth it to miss out on those other items.
I think I'm leaning more towards either
BT PD LW/IE or
BotRK BT LW.
IE just doesn't seem to be worth it enough on Varus because of how much longer it takes to build (and long sword pots is standard opening).
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 12 2013 01:05 GMT
#3044
With League's new website, I now know Jayce is friends with Caitlyn, Vi and Ezreal.

And apparently Xerath is bros with Reneketon and Cass.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 01:10:10
May 12 2013 01:09 GMT
#3045
On May 12 2013 10:05 Fionn wrote:
And apparently Xerath is bros with Reneketon and Cass.

Inb4 Cass visits Shurima with a "badass" story (that's what the post said) and Sivir gets shoved in there for her "visual update", each one siding with a bro over something that'll probably be related to Sivir's newly promoted to "character-defining artefact" weapon.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 12 2013 01:12 GMT
#3046
Also, TF has no friends. He has rivals in Evelynn and Graves, but no friends.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 02:26:42
May 12 2013 01:27 GMT
#3047
edit sorrysorry
LCS Spoilers!
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gratz to guitar and his team :3
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 12 2013 01:30 GMT
#3048
On May 12 2013 10:12 Fionn wrote:
Also, TF has no friends. He has rivals in Evelynn and Graves, but no friends.

'tis 'k, Evelynn is his ex, they'll get back together at some point. Now go wonder what kind of friendship is established between Lulu and Veigar (and it's not even one-way, like Lulu trying to cheer the brooding Yordle).

Rival doesn't necessarily mean enemy though. See: Garen/Katarina (well, they're enemies, but it's state-affairs, not personal), Draven/Darius, Nidalee/Rengar.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 01:46:09
May 12 2013 01:45 GMT
#3049
So, I found out Cass is really fun in ARAM. I just rushed Rylais then Liandrys and just spammed her W all game. I didn't realize how great her zoning is. I also didn't realize her ult has that low of a cooldown. Overall, good times were had regardless of how bad I was/am at this game.

Also another champ who excels in ARAM seems to be ziggs. For the same reason that his zoning potential is amazing.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
May 12 2013 02:02 GMT
#3050
On May 12 2013 10:45 ketchup wrote:
So, I found out Cass is really fun in ARAM. I just rushed Rylais then Liandrys and just spammed her W all game. I didn't realize how great her zoning is. I also didn't realize her ult has that low of a cooldown. Overall, good times were had regardless of how bad I was/am at this game.

Also another champ who excels in ARAM seems to be ziggs. For the same reason that his zoning potential is amazing.



Trundle max pilllar buy CDR win game
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 02:17:21
May 12 2013 02:17 GMT
#3051
On May 12 2013 09:50 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 09:27 Gahlo wrote:
On May 12 2013 09:08 Dark_Chill wrote:
Because there's no Varus thread and I don't think I trust the guides on LoLking, can someone tell me stuff about Varus (skill order and item path). Right now for skill order I go E max first then W max, using Q more or less as another skill to detonate stacks. For build, I have no idea. I don't know if I want BotRK, BT, IE or what.

R>E>W>Q seems to be the standard. Items are IE/BotRK/BT optional as first item.

Someday I'll get that thread done.


I know items are dependent on how well you do and what lane you're in, but any general tips on what to buy. I know BT is good for Varus' abilities and life steal is good, but BotRK gives him attack speed and tank killing, so also really good. I know IE is something to get if you're doing really well, but I'm not sure if it's even worth it to miss out on those other items.
I think I'm leaning more towards either
BT PD LW/IE or
BotRK BT LW.
IE just doesn't seem to be worth it enough on Varus because of how much longer it takes to build (and long sword pots is standard opening).

BotRK/IE is the strangest two item combo, I've felt. Starting BT or BotRK is more of a tempo thing.

On May 12 2013 10:12 Fionn wrote:
Also, TF has no friends. He has rivals in Evelynn and Graves, but no friends.


Neither does Riven.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 12 2013 02:38 GMT
#3052
On May 12 2013 10:27 Dusty wrote:
edit sorrysorry
LCS Spoilers!
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gratz to guitar and his team :3

+ Show Spoiler +
gratz guitar! hoping to see more cris hydra on shen!


liftlift > tsm
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 12 2013 02:44 GMT
#3053
Lol looking at the new site and reading Kassadin's lore for the first time, I think he's now #2 favorite lore behind current Jax lore.

These friend's/rivals thing is pretty cool. Ahri friends with Wukong is pretty lol. Jax rivals with Fiora sounds interesting too.
Forever Young
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 12 2013 02:46 GMT
#3054
On May 12 2013 11:44 sung_moon wrote:
Lol looking at the new site and reading Kassadin's lore for the first time, I think he's now #2 favorite lore behind current Jax lore.

These friend's/rivals thing is pretty cool. Ahri friends with Wukong is pretty lol. Jax rivals with Fiora sounds interesting too.

Jax and fiora one sorta makes sense. They're fighting for best duelsit.
liftlift > tsm
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 12 2013 02:48 GMT
#3055
On May 12 2013 11:17 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 09:50 Dark_Chill wrote:
On May 12 2013 09:27 Gahlo wrote:
On May 12 2013 09:08 Dark_Chill wrote:
Because there's no Varus thread and I don't think I trust the guides on LoLking, can someone tell me stuff about Varus (skill order and item path). Right now for skill order I go E max first then W max, using Q more or less as another skill to detonate stacks. For build, I have no idea. I don't know if I want BotRK, BT, IE or what.

R>E>W>Q seems to be the standard. Items are IE/BotRK/BT optional as first item.

Someday I'll get that thread done.


I know items are dependent on how well you do and what lane you're in, but any general tips on what to buy. I know BT is good for Varus' abilities and life steal is good, but BotRK gives him attack speed and tank killing, so also really good. I know IE is something to get if you're doing really well, but I'm not sure if it's even worth it to miss out on those other items.
I think I'm leaning more towards either
BT PD LW/IE or
BotRK BT LW.
IE just doesn't seem to be worth it enough on Varus because of how much longer it takes to build (and long sword pots is standard opening).

BotRK/IE is the strangest two item combo, I've felt. Starting BT or BotRK is more of a tempo thing.

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 10:12 Fionn wrote:
Also, TF has no friends. He has rivals in Evelynn and Graves, but no friends.


Neither does Riven.

Amumu?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 12 2013 02:49 GMT
#3056
On May 12 2013 11:17 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 09:50 Dark_Chill wrote:
On May 12 2013 09:27 Gahlo wrote:
On May 12 2013 09:08 Dark_Chill wrote:
Because there's no Varus thread and I don't think I trust the guides on LoLking, can someone tell me stuff about Varus (skill order and item path). Right now for skill order I go E max first then W max, using Q more or less as another skill to detonate stacks. For build, I have no idea. I don't know if I want BotRK, BT, IE or what.

R>E>W>Q seems to be the standard. Items are IE/BotRK/BT optional as first item.

Someday I'll get that thread done.


I know items are dependent on how well you do and what lane you're in, but any general tips on what to buy. I know BT is good for Varus' abilities and life steal is good, but BotRK gives him attack speed and tank killing, so also really good. I know IE is something to get if you're doing really well, but I'm not sure if it's even worth it to miss out on those other items.
I think I'm leaning more towards either
BT PD LW/IE or
BotRK BT LW.
IE just doesn't seem to be worth it enough on Varus because of how much longer it takes to build (and long sword pots is standard opening).

BotRK/IE is the strangest two item combo, I've felt. Starting BT or BotRK is more of a tempo thing.

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 10:12 Fionn wrote:
Also, TF has no friends. He has rivals in Evelynn and Graves, but no friends.


Neither does Riven.

Low blow
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 03:10:38
May 12 2013 03:07 GMT
#3057
I like how the champion/item info is more well-organized than before, but I still wish a lot of the more detailed information (which anyone pretty much only ever found out by testing or by asking a Rioter) was tabulated in a way that people could actually find that more obscure information rather than having to do one of the above.

EDIT: Somewhat related, I wish LoL had a full-on combat log and not just the semi-functional death recap.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 12 2013 03:13 GMT
#3058
On May 12 2013 12:07 TheYango wrote:
I like how the champion/item info is more well-organized than before, but I still wish a lot of the more detailed information (which anyone pretty much only ever found out by testing or by asking a Rioter) was tabulated in a way that people could actually find that more obscure information rather than having to do one of the above.

EDIT: Somewhat related, I wish LoL had a full-on combat log and not just the semi-functional death recap.

Gotta hide the burden of knowledge bro.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 03:21:52
May 12 2013 03:21 GMT
#3059
On May 12 2013 12:07 TheYango wrote:
I like how the champion/item info is more well-organized than before, but I still wish a lot of the more detailed information (which anyone pretty much only ever found out by testing or by asking a Rioter) was tabulated in a way that people could actually find that more obscure information rather than having to do one of the above.

EDIT: Somewhat related, I wish LoL had a full-on combat log and not just the semi-functional death recap.

that implies the current death recap is even partially functional.
liftlift > tsm
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 03:30:19
May 12 2013 03:23 GMT
#3060
On May 12 2013 12:21 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 12:07 TheYango wrote:
I like how the champion/item info is more well-organized than before, but I still wish a lot of the more detailed information (which anyone pretty much only ever found out by testing or by asking a Rioter) was tabulated in a way that people could actually find that more obscure information rather than having to do one of the above.

EDIT: Somewhat related, I wish LoL had a full-on combat log and not just the semi-functional death recap.

that implies the current death recap is even partially functional.

Yeah, you really can't trust the death recap. I died today as Janna with 1700 life and it only showed 900 damage towards me... I was at full health 20 seconds before that.

So for the past few months I've been reflecting on all my legit games and trying to figure out what I can do to improve. I put this all in an excel spreadsheet or massive word doc. I think I'm improving for sure. Does anyone else do something similar. I just don't feel like I can measure my improvement without actually writing stuff down.
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