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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On April 18 2013 02:36 Requizen wrote: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=36786276#36786276 Skarner plz maybe skarner should get a darius skin so they can bring back the thing where you can ult before they flash | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On April 18 2013 02:36 Requizen wrote: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=36786276#36786276 Skarner plz im pretty sure its for Rumble. As far i know, they said "we have good news for Rumble" at PAX. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 18 2013 02:38 Mensol wrote: im pretty sure its for Rumble. As far i know, they said "we have good news for Rumble" at PAX. My money is still on Spirit Summoner Udyr. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On April 18 2013 02:35 ketchup wrote: As much as TL liked the old AP Karma. I sincerely wish Riot would kept up with her as more of a support role. The remake is pretty decent in terms of damage, but her skillset feels a lot more generic than it did before the remake. This is mostly because we are essentially pigeon-holed into playing her mid AP. I don't know why they neglected her previous support/utlity role so much. I especially dislike the leash which feels like a bad imitation of Leblanc's leash. It really destroys this character in terms of originality. Eeeeehhhhh no. I like her now. She's a fun AP mid who can bring a variety of tools to teamfights, has excellent waveclear, and has really tight animations. I think you're really getting too hung up on "This ability feels like X!". It was always a leash that slowed (much like LeBlanc's), and the root is much better from a utility perspective, especially considering she now has a spammable slow. If we complain about ability that feels like another, there would be no one happy because we'd only have like 10 "original" champions on the game. She still has a support/utility role. Late game, you have damage yes, but your main role is locking down a diver with W, slowing and zoning with Q, and shielding targets with E. She still feels more fresh than other champions that came out recently. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 18 2013 02:38 Mensol wrote: im pretty sure its for Rumble. As far i know, they said "we have good news for Rumble" at PAX. I thought the nerfs were the good news. lol | ||
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
On April 18 2013 02:36 Requizen wrote: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=36786276#36786276 Skarner plz Pretty sure its going to be the Black Frost Anivia skin or w/e its called. | ||
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Agnosthar
631 Posts
On April 18 2013 02:51 ChaoSbringer wrote: Pretty sure its going to be the Black Frost Anivia skin or w/e its called. It's 100% Blackfrost Anivia, how have people forgotten about that already haha. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On April 18 2013 02:54 Agnosthar wrote: It's 100% Blackfrost Anivia, how have people forgotten about that already haha. Eh, it barely looks different enough to be Ultimate. I mean, they straight out said Ultimate is a reimagining with upgrades and completely new animations/voice overs - like Pulsefire. Is giving Anivia a dark skin and some metal really that different? | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On April 18 2013 03:01 Requizen wrote: Eh, it barely looks different enough to be Ultimate. I mean, they straight out said Ultimate is a reimagining with upgrades and completely new animations/voice overs - like Pulsefire. Is giving Anivia a dark skin and some metal really that different? blackfrost looks like trash compared to pfe or something its definitely gonna be a 1350 tier skin imo | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On April 18 2013 02:43 Requizen wrote: Eeeeehhhhh no. I like her now. She's a fun AP mid who can bring a variety of tools to teamfights, has excellent waveclear, and has really tight animations. I think you're really getting too hung up on "This ability feels like X!". It was always a leash that slowed (much like LeBlanc's), and the root is much better from a utility perspective, especially considering she now has a spammable slow. If we complain about ability that feels like another, there would be no one happy because we'd only have like 10 "original" champions on the game. She still has a support/utility role. Late game, you have damage yes, but your main role is locking down a diver with W, slowing and zoning with Q, and shielding targets with E. She still feels more fresh than other champions that came out recently. Not really hung up on that fact that her leash is Leblanc's leash. It's inevitable that some skills will overlap. I knew this reasoning would come up to excuse what I feel is a pretty poor execution for a remake from Riot. It's pretty much the idea that, in my opinion, her current form feels nothing like her old form. As I said, nothing is wrong with the damage, but her feel is destroyed compared to her old version. I'm not entirely sure why someone would pick her as support in her current form at all. It's just very very hard to justify. I know why someone would pick her as an AP mid though. Of course, I could be wrong, but I cannot think this Karma was designed for both support and AP solo lane in mind. To me, it feels like Riot definitely abandoned the support prospect to cater to the Karma solo lane players. I'd also like to add that if someone does pick Karma as a solo lane AP role, I do not think that they will be satisfied with how her "ult" is used/feels now due to this change in Riot mindset. Other mids have a much more satisfying factor with their ults. | ||
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Agnosthar
631 Posts
On April 18 2013 03:01 Requizen wrote: Eh, it barely looks different enough to be Ultimate. I mean, they straight out said Ultimate is a reimagining with upgrades and completely new animations/voice overs - like Pulsefire. Is giving Anivia a dark skin and some metal really that different? Have you seen the skin? It's got brand new voice overs, new spell animations, and is awesome from a lore POV as well. | ||
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
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Agnosthar
631 Posts
On April 18 2013 03:15 ChaoSbringer wrote: Ok I misread and forgot about the new naming system they thought up. Blackfrost Anivia is probably going to be a Legendary skin, not an ultimate. Oh snap, yeah I was saying Anivia would be the next legendary. No idea about the next ultimate. | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On April 18 2013 03:14 Agnosthar wrote: Have you seen the skin? It's got brand new voice overs, new spell animations, and is awesome from a lore POV as well. Assuming you find their Frejold orgy awesome, of course. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On April 18 2013 03:06 ketchup wrote: Not really hung up on that fact that her leash is Leblanc's leash. It's inevitable that some skills will overlap. I knew this reasoning would come up to excuse what I feel is a pretty poor execution for a remake from Riot. It's pretty much the idea that, in my opinion, her current form feels nothing like her old form. As I said, nothing is wrong with the damage, but her feel is destroyed compared to her old version. I'm not entirely sure why someone would pick her as support in her current form at all. It's just very very hard to justify. I know why someone would pick her as an AP mid though. Of course, I could be wrong, but I cannot think this Karma was designed for both support and AP solo lane in mind. To me, it feels like Riot definitely abandoned the support prospect to cater to the Karma solo lane players. Oh. In that case, I can understand where you're coming from. I agree that Support Karma feels almost non-existent in her current state, but let's be honest, was she before? In the long run, I honestly feel that AP/Support hybrids are hard to make work. A nice balance was struck with Morg, and somewhat with Lux and Zyra, but then it really boils down to "Here's some kits with high CC that don't need farm, but if you get farm they can also do damage". Adding heals into the mix (especially those scaling with AP) gets problematic and imbalanced one way or another (see: Soraka Mid, though that was also due a lot to the free manapool). I mean, in my eyes Lux/Morg/Zyra(/somewhat Janna) already feel pretty similar, and adding another "ranged AP Support caster" with a redesigned Karma would just be overkill and a bit boring. Maybe it's just me :\ | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 18 2013 03:24 TheYango wrote: Personally I think it would have been more interesting for Karma's tether to be made ally-only and for them to expand on the supportive aspects of the skill, but instead they went the other way round (make it enemy only and focus on the offensive aspect). Or have it have a dual aspect, like a lot of lulu skills. | ||
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