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On April 18 2013 04:36 LateralusGaming wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 04:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:On April 18 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:On April 18 2013 03:39 thenexusp wrote:On April 18 2013 03:35 Usagi wrote:On April 18 2013 03:28 Alaric wrote:On April 18 2013 03:14 Agnosthar wrote:On April 18 2013 03:01 Requizen wrote:On April 18 2013 02:54 Agnosthar wrote:On April 18 2013 02:51 ChaoSbringer wrote:
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Pretty sure its going to be the Black Frost Anivia skin or w/e its called. It's 100% Blackfrost Anivia, how have people forgotten about that already haha. Eh, it barely looks different enough to be Ultimate. I mean, they straight out said Ultimate is a reimagining with upgrades and completely new animations/voice overs - like Pulsefire. Is giving Anivia a dark skin and some metal really that different? Have you seen the skin? It's got brand new voice overs, new spell animations, and is awesome from a lore POV as well. Assuming you find their Frejold orgy awesome, of course. You made me think of Kim Mundo... Damn you! You make me feel bad that I know what you're talking about + Show Spoiler + I'm guessing it's a good thing that I have no idea what the reference was. ITS A VERY GOOD THING I PROMISE YOU If anyone else is still curious about "Kim Mundo", I just google'd it and it's hentai. LoL hentai to be exact. So... to save everyone else, I thought I'd let you guys know.
Welcome to the internet. You can get your complimentary hat and tentacle rape experience right this way. 
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On April 18 2013 04:31 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 04:18 Requizen wrote:On April 18 2013 04:09 cLutZ wrote:On April 18 2013 01:06 Requizen wrote:On April 18 2013 01:00 cLutZ wrote:On April 18 2013 00:07 Ketara wrote:
I feel like Riot is trying to save face with Karma at this point. They spent so long working on this remake, they need Karma to be a perfectly good and desirable and balanced champion. It's like they feel like they'll look bad if Karma isn't popular and they're buffing everything because of it. The problem with Karma, is her ult is not ungodly strong (only mantra'd E is even ult-like), yet it makes the spell go on cooldown. Mantra'd spells should only make mantra go on CD. So basically make it Rengar's Ferocity so you can double cast spells? That would be straight up insane. Like, not even a little. A lot. Not really. Its no different than Brand having 4 spells that he can cast, or Cassio, or Leblanc, or the many mages with 4 spells. The cooldown would probably have to be increased so you can't just lane bully by E>W>UltQ>Q ing people, but no one says, "man its insane how brand can cast 4 spells in a row"! That's a bad comparison. Brand and LeBlanc are designed to be burst mages with a small amount of utility and Cass is a high sustained damage mage with some minor utility with slows and her ult. On the other hand, Karma is a middling-to-high damage mage with a lot of utility. Double casting Q would give her close to Brand level burst (especially if they get hit with full RQ) alongside her easily landed root + Shields. Not to mention chaining shields or having 2 Ws running would be on the borderline of "holy fuck how am I supposed to kill her or anyone on her team?". Your points are true, but only true given the current state of her spells. Right now it is she is an even MORE bizarre state because she has an Ult with a fairly low CD, but not so low that you can use it twice during the relevant portions of most teamfights. So, in reality she has 2 spells and an ult during a fight (you can spam Q of course), so that ult needs to be ridiculously strong, like Tibbers strong or Curse of the Sad Mummy strong, but since it is not close to that level of CD, it being that strong would break her for laning.
With max CDR and good Q aim you can get at least 2-3 Mantras off in a fight, more if it extends out for a long time. The upcoming changes will decrease the need for max CDR at that, as well. A quick fight goes like this: Open with RQ in an AoE comp or RE if you have a hard initiate -> Land a couple Qs that hit multiple targets -> W the diving assassin/bruiser (as each tick reduces the CD) -> then Mantra cleanup (RE for chase/run, RW if you're low and alone, RQ for finishing off people). Longer fights are even better.
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On April 18 2013 04:36 LateralusGaming wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 04:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:On April 18 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:On April 18 2013 03:39 thenexusp wrote:On April 18 2013 03:35 Usagi wrote:On April 18 2013 03:28 Alaric wrote:On April 18 2013 03:14 Agnosthar wrote:On April 18 2013 03:01 Requizen wrote:On April 18 2013 02:54 Agnosthar wrote:On April 18 2013 02:51 ChaoSbringer wrote:
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Pretty sure its going to be the Black Frost Anivia skin or w/e its called. It's 100% Blackfrost Anivia, how have people forgotten about that already haha. Eh, it barely looks different enough to be Ultimate. I mean, they straight out said Ultimate is a reimagining with upgrades and completely new animations/voice overs - like Pulsefire. Is giving Anivia a dark skin and some metal really that different? Have you seen the skin? It's got brand new voice overs, new spell animations, and is awesome from a lore POV as well. Assuming you find their Frejold orgy awesome, of course. You made me think of Kim Mundo... Damn you! You make me feel bad that I know what you're talking about + Show Spoiler + I'm guessing it's a good thing that I have no idea what the reference was. ITS A VERY GOOD THING I PROMISE YOU If anyone else is still curious about "Kim Mundo", I just google'd it and it's hentai. LoL hentai to be exact. So... to save everyone else, I thought I'd let you guys know.
No spoiler tag? /hue
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On April 18 2013 04:37 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 04:36 LateralusGaming wrote:On April 18 2013 04:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:On April 18 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:On April 18 2013 03:39 thenexusp wrote:On April 18 2013 03:35 Usagi wrote:On April 18 2013 03:28 Alaric wrote:On April 18 2013 03:14 Agnosthar wrote:On April 18 2013 03:01 Requizen wrote:On April 18 2013 02:54 Agnosthar wrote:
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It's 100% Blackfrost Anivia, how have people forgotten about that already haha.
Eh, it barely looks different enough to be Ultimate. I mean, they straight out said Ultimate is a reimagining with upgrades and completely new animations/voice overs - like Pulsefire. Is giving Anivia a dark skin and some metal really that different? Have you seen the skin? It's got brand new voice overs, new spell animations, and is awesome from a lore POV as well. Assuming you find their Frejold orgy awesome, of course. You made me think of Kim Mundo... Damn you! You make me feel bad that I know what you're talking about + Show Spoiler + I'm guessing it's a good thing that I have no idea what the reference was. ITS A VERY GOOD THING I PROMISE YOU If anyone else is still curious about "Kim Mundo", I just google'd it and it's hentai. LoL hentai to be exact. So... to save everyone else, I thought I'd let you guys know. Welcome to the internet. You can get your complimentary hat and tentacle rape experience right this way.
*sigh*
the things i have found when looking for art for my syndra guide...
but it's okay because somehow i found art of someone calling rammus a "shit cactus" and that made my day
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On April 18 2013 04:37 Requizen wrote:Welcome to the internet. You can get your complimentary hat and baron nashor tentacle rape experience right this way.
Fixed, since we're talking about KimMundo...
(protip: he can't do anything unless you aggro him first)
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This thread is taking a sharp turn down towards Hell. Lets try and stay away from the Nashor hentai lmao
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When/Will riot nerf red pot?
It kinda ruins eraly game tbh.
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On April 18 2013 04:41 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 04:31 cLutZ wrote:On April 18 2013 04:18 Requizen wrote:On April 18 2013 04:09 cLutZ wrote:On April 18 2013 01:06 Requizen wrote:On April 18 2013 01:00 cLutZ wrote:On April 18 2013 00:07 Ketara wrote:
I feel like Riot is trying to save face with Karma at this point. They spent so long working on this remake, they need Karma to be a perfectly good and desirable and balanced champion. It's like they feel like they'll look bad if Karma isn't popular and they're buffing everything because of it. The problem with Karma, is her ult is not ungodly strong (only mantra'd E is even ult-like), yet it makes the spell go on cooldown. Mantra'd spells should only make mantra go on CD. So basically make it Rengar's Ferocity so you can double cast spells? That would be straight up insane. Like, not even a little. A lot. Not really. Its no different than Brand having 4 spells that he can cast, or Cassio, or Leblanc, or the many mages with 4 spells. The cooldown would probably have to be increased so you can't just lane bully by E>W>UltQ>Q ing people, but no one says, "man its insane how brand can cast 4 spells in a row"! That's a bad comparison. Brand and LeBlanc are designed to be burst mages with a small amount of utility and Cass is a high sustained damage mage with some minor utility with slows and her ult. On the other hand, Karma is a middling-to-high damage mage with a lot of utility. Double casting Q would give her close to Brand level burst (especially if they get hit with full RQ) alongside her easily landed root + Shields. Not to mention chaining shields or having 2 Ws running would be on the borderline of "holy fuck how am I supposed to kill her or anyone on her team?". Your points are true, but only true given the current state of her spells. Right now it is she is an even MORE bizarre state because she has an Ult with a fairly low CD, but not so low that you can use it twice during the relevant portions of most teamfights. So, in reality she has 2 spells and an ult during a fight (you can spam Q of course), so that ult needs to be ridiculously strong, like Tibbers strong or Curse of the Sad Mummy strong, but since it is not close to that level of CD, it being that strong would break her for laning. With max CDR and good Q aim you can get at least 2-3 Mantras off in a fight, more if it extends out for a long time. The upcoming changes will decrease the need for max CDR at that, as well. A quick fight goes like this: Open with RQ in an AoE comp or RE if you have a hard initiate -> Land a couple Qs that hit multiple targets -> W the diving assassin/bruiser (as each tick reduces the CD) -> then Mantra cleanup (RE for chase/run, RW if you're low and alone, RQ for finishing off people). Longer fights are even better.
At least in my experience, teamfights do not typically last that long. Sometimes I get a 2nd mantra off during the cleanup phase of the fight. People are rightfully afraid of AOE ults (most of my games tend to have them) so they rarely are clustered in the kind of way that would make RQ a scary ability. Currently it can deter divers a little for me. But Karma is IMO mostly strong for her slows/snare anyways and the empowered abilities don't really augment that significantly enough.
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got a 1 v1 fb or first tower tourney some good champs for this would be?
just fyi yorick is autoban idk why
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On April 18 2013 05:30 AA.spoon wrote:
When/Will riot nerf red pot?
It kinda ruins eraly game tbh.
100 gold increase already in the works, PBE I think? (350 gold)
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On April 18 2013 05:30 AA.spoon wrote:
When/Will riot nerf red pot?
It kinda ruins eraly game tbh.
How does it ruin early game?
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On April 18 2013 05:30 samthesaluki wrote:
got a 1 v1 fb or first tower tourney some good champs for this would be?
just fyi yorick is autoban idk why
yorick is op 1v1, thats why.
just pick elise
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On April 18 2013 05:30 samthesaluki wrote:
got a 1 v1 fb or first tower tourney some good champs for this would be?
just fyi yorick is autoban idk why
Draven, Nunu, Elise.
On April 18 2013 05:33 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 05:30 AA.spoon wrote:
When/Will riot nerf red pot?
It kinda ruins eraly game tbh.
How does it ruin early game?
1 Thing it makes lame is the lvl 1 redpot purchasing mindgame. Otherwise its no different than other openings to me.
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Swain is a pretty good pick in a 1v1 tourney.
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On April 18 2013 05:33 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 05:30 AA.spoon wrote:
When/Will riot nerf red pot?
It kinda ruins eraly game tbh.
How does it ruin early game?
It is way to strong. Evensupports pick it at lvl 1. the koreans korean in ogn abuse this item all the time/
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On April 18 2013 05:55 AA.spoon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 05:33 Numy wrote:On April 18 2013 05:30 AA.spoon wrote:
When/Will riot nerf red pot?
It kinda ruins eraly game tbh.
How does it ruin early game? It is way to strong. Evensupports pick it at lvl 1. the koreans korean in ogn abuse this item all the time/
As opposed to the koreans bangladesh.
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As a long time lurker I just wanted to say that this thread rocks. Good going, TLLoL Subforum, I have wasted much of my life here, on my phone no less!
The lore changes they have done to Morde, Karth, and now Trundle and Olaf have been pretty depressing. They could have revealed these champion's connections whilst keeping former, more interesting, lore intact. I am disappointed that this is the direction they are going.
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On April 18 2013 04:42 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 04:36 LateralusGaming wrote:On April 18 2013 04:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:On April 18 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:On April 18 2013 03:39 thenexusp wrote:On April 18 2013 03:35 Usagi wrote:On April 18 2013 03:28 Alaric wrote:On April 18 2013 03:14 Agnosthar wrote:On April 18 2013 03:01 Requizen wrote:On April 18 2013 02:54 Agnosthar wrote:
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It's 100% Blackfrost Anivia, how have people forgotten about that already haha.
Eh, it barely looks different enough to be Ultimate. I mean, they straight out said Ultimate is a reimagining with upgrades and completely new animations/voice overs - like Pulsefire. Is giving Anivia a dark skin and some metal really that different? Have you seen the skin? It's got brand new voice overs, new spell animations, and is awesome from a lore POV as well. Assuming you find their Frejold orgy awesome, of course. You made me think of Kim Mundo... Damn you! You make me feel bad that I know what you're talking about + Show Spoiler + I'm guessing it's a good thing that I have no idea what the reference was. ITS A VERY GOOD THING I PROMISE YOU If anyone else is still curious about "Kim Mundo", I just google'd it and it's hentai. LoL hentai to be exact. So... to save everyone else, I thought I'd let you guys know. No spoiler tag? /hue
I googled it expecting kinky Mundo porn. I R Disappoint.
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On April 18 2013 06:05 UltimateFire wrote:
As a long time lurker I just wanted to say that this thread rocks. Good going, TLLoL Subforum, I have wasted much of my life here, on my phone no less!
The lore changes they have done to Morde, Karth, and now Trundle and Olaf have been pretty depressing. They could have revealed these champion's connections whilst keeping former, more interesting, lore intact. I am disappointed that this is the direction they are going.
We <3 u 2.
On April 18 2013 06:22 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 04:42 onlywonderboy wrote:On April 18 2013 04:36 LateralusGaming wrote:On April 18 2013 04:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:On April 18 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:On April 18 2013 03:39 thenexusp wrote:On April 18 2013 03:35 Usagi wrote:On April 18 2013 03:28 Alaric wrote:On April 18 2013 03:14 Agnosthar wrote:On April 18 2013 03:01 Requizen wrote:
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Eh, it barely looks different enough to be Ultimate. I mean, they straight out said Ultimate is a reimagining with upgrades and completely new animations/voice overs - like Pulsefire. Is giving Anivia a dark skin and some metal really that different? Have you seen the skin? It's got brand new voice overs, new spell animations, and is awesome from a lore POV as well. Assuming you find their Frejold orgy awesome, of course. You made me think of Kim Mundo... Damn you! You make me feel bad that I know what you're talking about + Show Spoiler + I'm guessing it's a good thing that I have no idea what the reference was. ITS A VERY GOOD THING I PROMISE YOU If anyone else is still curious about "Kim Mundo", I just google'd it and it's hentai. LoL hentai to be exact. So... to save everyone else, I thought I'd let you guys know. No spoiler tag? /hue I googled it expecting kinky Mundo porn. I R Disappoint.
Why and WHY
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