EPT[Patch 3.05: Balance Update] General Discussion - Page 9
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Lylat
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iCanada
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On April 10 2013 20:21 Serelitz wrote: Blizzard still has time to backtrack I think (hope?). Also wtf OGN and GSL on at the same time :/ so hard to choose. Glad they nerfed Akali because she snowballed in all the wrong ways. Not that good if your opponent knows exactly what to do but 1 fuck up and akali is going to destroy you over and over without being able to do anything. Only champion that seriously needs nerfs still is Thresh. He's balanced in the hands of most people but he scales so insanely well with skill, the stuff you can do with him is absolutely retarded if you play him well enough. Usually it isn't lane where akali gets big anyway. I've seen games where akali like 0/4/0, behind ~30 CS, then she gets like a kill or two at a dragon fight and it just like suddenly she kill everything. | ||
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TSBspartacus
England1046 Posts
On April 10 2013 16:05 Seuss wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2013 08:39 ticklishmusic wrote: Idunno, they "buffed" Akali pretty hard earlygame awhile ago by giving her Twin Disciplines without needing any AP/AD iirc. That wasn't really a buff so much as a convenience. It didn't even change the ideal rune page for Akali, it just made people who couldn't afford it able to play her at a functional level. Which apparently became a problem in Bronze tier. I expect her to achieve Eve status by S4 if that's why they nerfed her, because a champion with innate Spell Vamp, spammable single-target abilities, stealth, and a triple gap closer is always going to destroy players at and below that level. On April 10 2013 10:20 wei2coolman wrote: lol; these akali nerfs. 35 fucking seconds on her ulti charge, and she doesn't even get a charge when she instantly turns 6. There goes Akali's laning phase; not like she had much of one anyways. Time to jungle Akali. + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2013 11:25 Requizen wrote: I honestly think the 60% sprint on rank 1 of Karma E will make her nearly ungankable. She's already really hard to catch and harass out with only 1 or 2 points in it, this is going to be hilarious. FYI, the "60% at all ranks" aspect is only if you use Mantra on it. Otherwise it's still 20-60% depending on rank. So if Karma uses her Mantra on anything else and hasn't been maxing E then she's just as gankable as before. Its actually pretty good, rough first clear but great ganks and Gunblade/spirit AP item then rylais or deathcap/lichbane if you're ahead wrecks face. Pretty reliant on kills to make an impact though. | ||
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Alaric
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On April 10 2013 18:32 Shikyo wrote: Akali has no mana costs, has much higher sustain, and is better singletarget, and forces pink wards o_O Oh and is hybrid and can't be neutered with flash and of course is far easier. Diana has mana costs?  On April 10 2013 20:54 TSBspartacus wrote: Its actually pretty good, rough first clear but great ganks and Gunblade/spirit AP item then rylais or deathcap/lichbane if you're ahead wrecks face. Pretty reliant on kills to make an impact though. If you look at his blog he's been advocating jungle Akali for months, it's not the first nerf that has him going "Yay, jungle Akali buffed/doesn't care!". Monte's a strange beard wielder like that. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
They're actually significant if you need to use your shield(which you do against like every lane ever). | ||
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TSBspartacus
England1046 Posts
On April 10 2013 21:35 Alaric wrote: Diana has mana costs? If you look at his blog he's been advocating jungle Akali for months, it's not the first nerf that has him going "Yay, jungle Akali buffed/doesn't care!". Monte's a strange beard wielder like that. I had a sneaky suspicion in the back of my mind that someone on here was a jungakali advocate. Probably what made me start it in the first place. | ||
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Jek
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On April 10 2013 22:17 Jek wrote: So, I just played normal blinds for warm-up, Phoenix Udyr with Sunfire, Liandry's and Lizard Elder stone was nothing short of hilarious. Arsonist Udyr OP. Edit: Totally didn't notice becoming a Reaver. Must upgrade soon because my micro be terrible. | ||
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lynx.oblige
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On April 10 2013 20:21 Serelitz wrote: Blizzard still has time to backtrack I think (hope?). Also wtf OGN and GSL on at the same time :/ so hard to choose. Glad they nerfed Akali because she snowballed in all the wrong ways. Not that good if your opponent knows exactly what to do but 1 fuck up and akali is going to destroy you over and over without being able to do anything. Only champion that seriously needs nerfs still is Thresh. He's balanced in the hands of most people but he scales so insanely well with skill, the stuff you can do with him is absolutely retarded if you play him well enough. I feel like the one thing they could change to make Thresh less retarded at high levels is adjusting the leash range of the lantern (you can be SO FAR away from your lantern, allowing for some truly ridiculous lantern saves/tricks/ganks/more.) It would barely impact his play at lower skill levels. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
On April 10 2013 22:08 Alaric wrote: How would you play it? "Roar, I'm metal-Shyvana"? omg i love that. METAL-SHYVANA | ||
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obesechicken13
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eParadox
Canada132 Posts
On April 10 2013 22:17 Jek wrote: So, I just played normal blinds for warm-up, Phoenix Udyr with Sunfire, Liandry's and Lizard Elder stone was nothing short of hilarious. Pyromaniac udyr i like it. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 10 2013 22:48 sylverfyre wrote: I feel like the one thing they could change to make Thresh less retarded at high levels is adjusting the leash range of the lantern (you can be SO FAR away from your lantern, allowing for some truly ridiculous lantern saves/tricks/ganks/more.) It would barely impact his play at lower skill levels. Make him melle imo. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On April 10 2013 22:24 AsmodeusXI wrote: Arsonist Udyr OP. Edit: Totally didn't notice becoming a Reaver. Must upgrade soon because my micro be terrible. On April 10 2013 23:07 eParadox wrote: Pyromaniac udyr i like it. It was surprisingly strong (or well, as surprisingly a build with expensive items can be...) massive AoE damage while still very tanky -- thanks to the CDR (eventually got a Spirit Visage too), decent armor+mr and Turtle spam. Liandry's is probably a bit iffy in a real game, but I think Lizard Elder and Sunfire will now be core on my Udyr.  | ||
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