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Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
April 10 2013 08:07 GMT
#141
So I don't think anyone followed up on the GD yesterday talking about blue/purple side imbalance. Why is blue better exactly?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 10 2013 08:21 GMT
#142
First pick, Baron approach terrain advantage, bot lane duo Dragon advantage negating purple's Dragon approach terrain advantage.
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Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
April 10 2013 08:23 GMT
#143
Blue bot lane can do an easy doubles, giving them a huuuge advantage in lane.
If you ever played against a Leona-lane which has a level advantage on you, you know what i mean.
You get zoned all day.

Sure, you can lane swap purples duolane to top, but then you are giving up on Dragon control.

Other than that top lane is easier to gank from blue side, and the opening on the baron pit makes it favourable for blue side aswell (2 wards and every entrance is covered).
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 10 2013 08:38 GMT
#144
On April 10 2013 17:07 Potatisodlaren wrote:
So I don't think anyone followed up on the GD yesterday talking about blue/purple side imbalance. Why is blue better exactly?

Root cause is Dragon/Baron spawn.
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 08:45:21
April 10 2013 08:41 GMT
#145
On April 10 2013 16:02 Shikyo wrote:


With 99.99% of all guides being terrible, this video is IMO quite boss.

no wonder i've gotten to diamond so easily... all this time, i've been wondering how i've been able to climb when i do so many stupid things too lol :D

no, but honestly, sometimes i wonder how i got to diamond since i'm so up and down lol
BW -> League -> CSGO
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
April 10 2013 08:56 GMT
#146
I feel like the change to the Golem makes it pretty useless. The only reason anyone would get it is for the tenacity, but most tanks get mercs anyways. Otherwise there are much better defensive CD items.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
April 10 2013 09:04 GMT
#147
the akali nerf is pretty huge. if you want to deal as much damage as before you need to have a major ap item + a deathcap or even more and that is long past midgame. also you didn't want to build her as offensive anyways. almost all her damage comes from q. she is now more of a niche pick i suggest. I don't get why they would nerf her that much. she wasn't like stomping or anything.

the other very big change is muramana imo. the damage you deal with it goes up alot for champs who like to get lw/bc or have innate armor pen.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
April 10 2013 09:06 GMT
#148
I don't understand why you would pick Akali over Diana now..
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 10 2013 09:19 GMT
#149
On April 10 2013 17:56 GettingIt wrote:
I feel like the change to the Golem makes it pretty useless. The only reason anyone would get it is for the tenacity, but most tanks get mercs anyways. Otherwise there are much better defensive CD items.

That's not entirely true. Junglers have been getting tabis against AD heavy comps, or occasionally mobos for more ganks/roaming, or even swifties on certain junglers like Udyr. Golem makes it so that the spirit stone isn't entirely a dead end item and tenacity is a very useful stat to have; it allows junglers to go with other boot options w/out having to give up tenacity. Spectral wraith is kind of a trash item and elder lizard, while gives a nice dps boost, usually makes you too squishy.

Golem giving cdr over armor I think is a good change since you usually only get spirit golem when you have tabis, which provide some armor. Golem giving cdr also means that you can reach cdr cap as a jungler without investing heavily into cdr, which is extremely useful for the fotm junglers like Nasus.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 09:33:12
April 10 2013 09:32 GMT
#150
On April 10 2013 18:06 Lylat wrote:
I don't understand why you would pick Akali over Diana now..

Akali has no mana costs, has much higher sustain, and is better singletarget, and forces pink wards o_O Oh and is hybrid and can't be neutered with flash and of course is far easier.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nobu
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain550 Posts
April 10 2013 09:50 GMT
#151
EUW working flawlesly again, gj patching riot! (Free IP boost NA soon).
"There's farmers and there's gamers, farmers get up early, gamers sleep in." Artosis
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 10 2013 10:01 GMT
#152
On April 10 2013 18:50 Nobu wrote:
EUW working flawlesly again, gj patching riot! (Free IP boost NA soon).

Sarcasm or? Anyway it's not working no
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
April 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#153
I just realized I can vote for Soaz both on eune and euw. He's only 3% behind Wickd now!
wat
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 10:14:08
April 10 2013 10:13 GMT
#154
oops
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
April 10 2013 10:29 GMT
#155
On April 10 2013 19:03 EquilasH wrote:
I just realized I can vote for Soaz both on eune and euw. He's only 3% behind Wickd now!


I think there's a number of ways to repeat vote, according to riot they can be detected and discounted.
No I'm never serious.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 10 2013 10:49 GMT
#156
I playing on PBE while NA down.

Holy shit these kids are toxic. Half the damn words in every game are report. Rofl.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
April 10 2013 10:55 GMT
#157
Man, real shitstorm going on with Blizzard and their version of the LCS. Koreans are allowed to freely choose what region they wanted to play for, so 20 of some of the best Koreans are moving to America to playing in the NA SC2 WCS thing.

Did Riot require citizenship or was it just not feasible for Korean/Chinese teams to move to NA to stomp the LCS? Or did they not even care enough, the Esports scenes for LoL and SC2 are very different I suppose.
Retvrn to Forvms
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 10 2013 11:00 GMT
#158
yeah, almost spit my coffee all over my keyboard when I read that guys like MC, Nestea and Mvp ( and many more) are moving to NA/EU to play wcs. goodnight foreign sc2 scene. BLizzcon will be all koreans.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 10 2013 11:12 GMT
#159
So after watching OGN, is nocturne the only melee who builds zerks in high level games?
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 11:23:40
April 10 2013 11:21 GMT
#160
Blizzard still has time to backtrack I think (hope?). Also wtf OGN and GSL on at the same time :/ so hard to choose.

Glad they nerfed Akali because she snowballed in all the wrong ways. Not that good if your opponent knows exactly what to do but 1 fuck up and akali is going to destroy you over and over without being able to do anything.

Only champion that seriously needs nerfs still is Thresh. He's balanced in the hands of most people but he scales so insanely well with skill, the stuff you can do with him is absolutely retarded if you play him well enough.
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