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[Patch 3.05: Balance Update] General Discussion - Page 11

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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 16:22:59
April 10 2013 16:22 GMT
#201
Corki also needs to have the ability to use q+w+e without running completely oom. His mana costs are still silly.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 16:29:47
April 10 2013 16:29 GMT
#202
I still think it's silly that Corki's R is arguably worse than Ezreal's Q.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 10 2013 16:49 GMT
#203
Well, couldn't Corki do a muramana/black cleaver build? Synergy should be there...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
April 10 2013 16:51 GMT
#204
Since we're talking about Hydra again, just gonna leave a reminder note that the active cancels animations. I'm look at you, Riven/Renekton W.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
April 10 2013 16:54 GMT
#205
Does anyone else read every single post of the GD threads? I was on vacation and my girlfriend was here (hadn't seen her for 6 months!) so I had 100 pages of april fools GD to catch up on.

I also usually read all of the NA and EU LR threads too.

#1 TL LoL GD Reader??
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
April 10 2013 16:58 GMT
#206
On April 11 2013 01:54 JonGalt wrote:
Does anyone else read every single post of the GD threads? I was on vacation and my girlfriend was here (hadn't seen her for 6 months!) so I had 100 pages of april fools GD to catch up on.

I also usually read all of the NA and EU LR threads too.

#1 TL LoL GD Reader??

I often skip over topics I don't care about.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#207
On April 11 2013 01:54 JonGalt wrote:
Does anyone else read every single post of the GD threads? I was on vacation and my girlfriend was here (hadn't seen her for 6 months!) so I had 100 pages of april fools GD to catch up on.

I also usually read all of the NA and EU LR threads too.

#1 TL LoL GD Reader??

I read everything, but then again i check the thread regularly and don't get that far behind.. This subforum is my most viewed site on Google Chrome >_>
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
April 10 2013 17:14 GMT
#208
I always read the last 2 pages and when an interesting discussion started earlier I go back.
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
April 10 2013 17:14 GMT
#209
On April 11 2013 01:49 Shikyo wrote:
Well, couldn't Corki do a muramana/black cleaver build? Synergy should be there...


None of Corki's spells would proc muramana, it would help with the mana costs but the damage wouldn't be so big.
Corki can gets BC stacks with his E, but even at max stacks, it's still less pen than last whisper. Not to mention that at this point you have no attack speed, no crits, no lifesteal and you're stuck with not the best arpen item. I have no idea what item you'd get next to be relevant late game.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 10 2013 17:17 GMT
#210
so in match history spirit of the ancient golem still shows +30 armor instead of cdr
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
April 10 2013 17:27 GMT
#211
On April 11 2013 02:14 Keniji wrote:
I always read the last 2 pages and when an interesting discussion started earlier I go back.

same :D cba to read the whole thing.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 10 2013 17:28 GMT
#212
On April 11 2013 01:00 Serelitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 00:30 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 11 2013 00:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 11 2013 00:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 11 2013 00:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 11 2013 00:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 10 2013 23:54 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 10 2013 23:52 Zhiroo wrote:
Off-topic here but rofl, the amount of Koreans going to the NA SC2 WCS is insane, RIP NA. May as well stop playing.


RIP NA? More like RIP NA and KR, since the GSL is now completely split lol. idk what's going to happen now.

Edit for LoL-related Content: I guess that I can watch a crapton of OGN now though.

You should be watching OGN anyway >_>


Hush, I'm busy working for a top-notch LoL content site.

GGC?


i think he means tl.


=P

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You guys with the joke-missing these days lol.


Edit: I BOUGHT MY OGN SUB OWB. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW


Should check out the MVP blue vs MVP Ozone games from this morning if you havent watched them and have vod access now. Pretty cool matches.


Thanks for the recommendations. Always welcome, especially if I get too lazy to check out the LR thread (I'm rarely that lazy). Only problem with it is that I watch most VoDs during work and the Twitch iOS app doesn't support them (that I know of). =(
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 17:32:53
April 10 2013 17:32 GMT
#213
Long ago, Manamune->Tri/Cleaver was the way to build Corki. Straight Triforce builds were also seen, but it was considered an acceptable tradeoff between Manamune and Triforce (delayed damage going Manamune, but higher long-term cost-effectiveness and smoother mana use in fights. Likewise Riot wanted to preserve this tradeoff between damage and sustainability.

The pace of the game has increased since then--an item like Manamune that doesn't give you immediate effectiveness takes too long to charge up before its combat stats can be considered effective. Furthermore, as mentioned already, Corki doesn't have anything that procs Muramana, which makes the item even less compelling.

On the one hand, I can see why Corki needs a buff to his mana costs--on the other hand, it bothers me that it would contribute further to the ever-growing mana cost creep.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 17:37:01
April 10 2013 17:33 GMT
#214
I honestly think the way corki is played should be overhauled: don't max Q first. You lose burst but since you can use it like 2x before running oom it tends to lose you lanes if you aren't going all-in all the time. With the newly buffed ulti Corki is going to be doing a lot of damage early game with nothing but ulti because he can get 2 big ones within 4 missles or 3 big ones within 7 missles

How about building him much tankier than your typical AD carry? Open 1 damage item (BT or BC) + zerker boots and go straight to warmogs before your second damage item. Gattling gun is ridiculously powerful if you aren't being forced to turn around every second and valkyrie actually does a shitton of damage. The idea then is that most bruisers will either have to stand there and eat your E + autos or chase you into your maxed valk, get cc'd inside, and melted instantly.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 10 2013 17:52 GMT
#215
On April 11 2013 02:32 TheYango wrote:
Long ago, Manamune->Tri/Cleaver was the way to build Corki. Straight Triforce builds were also seen, but it was considered an acceptable tradeoff between Manamune and Triforce (delayed damage going Manamune, but higher long-term cost-effectiveness and smoother mana use in fights. Likewise Riot wanted to preserve this tradeoff between damage and sustainability.

The pace of the game has increased since then--an item like Manamune that doesn't give you immediate effectiveness takes too long to charge up before its combat stats can be considered effective. Furthermore, as mentioned already, Corki doesn't have anything that procs Muramana, which makes the item even less compelling.

On the one hand, I can see why Corki needs a buff to his mana costs--on the other hand, it bothers me that it would contribute further to the ever-growing mana cost creep.


We could go back to Season 1 Phosphorous Bomb. That'd make the mana costs worth it.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 10 2013 17:55 GMT
#216
Also, Corki range is kinda bad.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 10 2013 17:57 GMT
#217
Well guys, Riot nailed it:

http://io9.com/theres-a-massive-green-blob-in-space-472027543
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 10 2013 18:03 GMT
#218
On April 11 2013 02:28 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 01:00 Serelitz wrote:
On April 11 2013 00:30 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 11 2013 00:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 11 2013 00:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 11 2013 00:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 11 2013 00:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 10 2013 23:54 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 10 2013 23:52 Zhiroo wrote:
Off-topic here but rofl, the amount of Koreans going to the NA SC2 WCS is insane, RIP NA. May as well stop playing.


RIP NA? More like RIP NA and KR, since the GSL is now completely split lol. idk what's going to happen now.

Edit for LoL-related Content: I guess that I can watch a crapton of OGN now though.

You should be watching OGN anyway >_>


Hush, I'm busy working for a top-notch LoL content site.

GGC?


i think he means tl.


=P

+ Show Spoiler +
You guys with the joke-missing these days lol.


Edit: I BOUGHT MY OGN SUB OWB. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW


Should check out the MVP blue vs MVP Ozone games from this morning if you havent watched them and have vod access now. Pretty cool matches.


Thanks for the recommendations. Always welcome, especially if I get too lazy to check out the LR thread (I'm rarely that lazy). Only problem with it is that I watch most VoDs during work and the Twitch iOS app doesn't support them (that I know of). =(

I'm 28 minutes into game one but had to pause because of class. Pretty epic so far.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 10 2013 18:49 GMT
#219
On April 11 2013 01:49 Shikyo wrote:
Well, couldn't Corki do a muramana/black cleaver build? Synergy should be there...

His kit is soooooo heavily magic damage though. (Bit of a catch-22. He has a pretty ok armor shred ability, but the entire rest of his kit is magic damage, and his only steroid is true damage.)
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
April 10 2013 18:59 GMT
#220
On April 11 2013 02:06 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 01:54 JonGalt wrote:
Does anyone else read every single post of the GD threads? I was on vacation and my girlfriend was here (hadn't seen her for 6 months!) so I had 100 pages of april fools GD to catch up on.

I also usually read all of the NA and EU LR threads too.

#1 TL LoL GD Reader??

I read everything, but then again i check the thread regularly and don't get that far behind.. This subforum is my most viewed site on Google Chrome >_>



We are allowed to skip pages?! I end up reading over everything even the topics I find not so interesting because I enjoy hearing different viewpoints on a wide variety of topics.

I spend far too much time keeping a tab(literally) on the general discussion threads.
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