[Patch 3.05: Balance Update] General Discussion - Page 5

On April 10 2013 12:30 Juicyfruit wrote:


Well, you also get the opposite cases where someone gets a bad matchup and doesn't know how to mitigate the disadvantage and gets completely rolled.

On April 10 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:

Oh dear, now she'll only be able to blast an entire team + a minion wave for metric fucktons of damage every 30s instead of every 24.
Boo friggity hoo.

On April 10 2013 12:04 Shikyo wrote:

It would have been better of you to assume it was a typo and that I meant 600 but yeah, now comment assuming it's 600 please

On April 10 2013 11:25 Requizen wrote:
I honestly think the 60% sprint on rank 1 of Karma E will make her nearly ungankable. She's already really hard to catch and harass out with only 1 or 2 points in it, this is going to be hilarious.

On April 10 2013 12:44 red_ wrote:


600 units is huge, that's pretty much your average gap closer.

Moving on:IMO the problem with that Akali nerf is that she will function really awkwardly in her own role now, given that 'assassin's' need to be able to start their snowball for lack of better wording, but 'adding more risk'(read: nerfing) to her early game just means she can't start it vs more lane matchups now than previous. As noted, she was already 50/50 win in pubs(as a pubstomp champ) which is probably because of the binary nature of the role. If she is in every way worse at that role now(because a lategame buff is irrelevant, if she got to 300ap in a reasonable time she was destroying people anyways), she'll just reach that carry potential less often. If they wanted to actually add more risk, they could've taken damage off the Q and put it on the detonate(so you have to melee to get the same damage), or put more damage onto E instead(shorter range, but AoE, tricky balance beam).

It's clearly just a complete nerf, the .1 ap ratio buff is a red herring for the way they worded it.

On April 10 2013 12:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Ignore, obviously.

I seriously don't see why there was the akali nerf; she doesn't see pro play, and her winrate wasn't off the charts.
Not to mention there was the bug where you shadow dance to minion and you get teleported to enemy fountain.

Not sure what the nunu ult buff was all about... Doesn't really change much.

On April 10 2013 13:06 Shikyo wrote:

Apparently Akali was destroying every game below ~Bronze 3 and her stealth can be pretty stupid if you don't buy pink wards

On April 10 2013 13:18 wei2coolman wrote:

So rather than tell players to buy pinkwards to counter a champion; Riot decides to baby its players with these silly nerfs?

On April 10 2013 13:11 sob3k wrote:
woohoo karma gonna spam dat even more

lol try ganking karma top

1. Mantra Q at gankers, 50% slow field

2. Speed self 60% for 1.5 seconds, shield

3. Tether ganker

you aint touching shit

On April 10 2013 13:21 Shikyo wrote:

Well they needed to back before / at 6 always regardless of the situation of the lane if they didn't start with a pink ward and jungle ganks didn't work without one either... And people not buying pink wards was why Evelynn got nerfed to ground, for example. I think it's consistent with stealth champions being made weaker, you need to throw 135g down the drain after all

On April 10 2013 13:25 onlywonderboy wrote:

It's like my one friend we play Smash Bros with, anytime we exclaim in frustration about getting it he just says "Dodge it!" Gets pretty annoying, it's not always that easy, and a lot of people aren't doing to dodge it. We aren't all playing at high Elo so Karma's escape mechanics are gonna be pretty good when people aren't dodging skill shots.