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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 18:39:38
April 29 2013 18:32 GMT
#4141
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 29 2013 18:36 GMT
#4142
On April 30 2013 03:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.

Still going to lose to jiji's team. Hue
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 29 2013 18:36 GMT
#4143
Ive seen fed Rengars kill turrets in 6-7 seconds, the double Q just explodes them.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 18:46:02
April 29 2013 18:45 GMT
#4144
I check TL so much it's finally happened.

[image loading]
Alright no more till I go home. Promise.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 29 2013 18:46 GMT
#4145
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.

Yeah, with as prevalent as lane swaps are it shouldn't be too hard to get Wukong into a solo lane. He can make a lot of Mids' lives a nightmare.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 18:46:53
April 29 2013 18:46 GMT
#4146
On April 30 2013 03:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
I check TL so much it's finally happened.

[image loading]
Alright no more till I go home. Promise.


wowowowowow well done sir
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 29 2013 18:54 GMT
#4147
On April 30 2013 03:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
I check TL so much it's finally happened.

[image loading]
Alright no more till I go home. Promise.

Stop breaking TL.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
April 29 2013 18:56 GMT
#4148
wtf

the best tower pusher in the game is jayce with rank 5 w and some cdr
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 29 2013 18:57 GMT
#4149
On April 30 2013 03:56 Dusty wrote:
wtf

the best tower pusher in the game is jayce with rank 5 w and some cdr


But he doesn't have a good escape like the others. Makes it harder to xPeke like a boss.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
April 29 2013 19:00 GMT
#4150
On April 30 2013 03:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:56 Dusty wrote:
wtf

the best tower pusher in the game is jayce with rank 5 w and some cdr


But he doesn't have a good escape like the others. Makes it harder to xPeke like a boss.


he puts down a gate and runs like the flash. If you get in melee range he can just knock you away.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 29 2013 19:01 GMT
#4151
On April 30 2013 03:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
I check TL so much it's finally happened.

[image loading]
Alright no more till I go home. Promise.

TIL: Subscribed threads and "jump to first unread post"
Conclusion: I'm still a TL scrub ;_;
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
HOOG
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada52 Posts
April 29 2013 19:01 GMT
#4152
You guys are crazy, the best tower pusher is Nasus with a few thousand on his Q
1250 ELO too stronk!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2013 19:03 GMT
#4153
Escape ? Escape suggests you're running from something. Jayce just leaves the lane you're in in favor of a less crowded one.
Wukong doesn't push the waves fast though and he gets oom really fast so I dunno if you can see him as a good tower killer (I cringe when teammates don't let a minion live for my E though).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 19:15:37
April 29 2013 19:12 GMT
#4154
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.

For killing towers? Rengar does Q empowered Q and rofls all over your Wukong with 2+ aspd and another Q ;S I've splitpushed with Wukong and it's seriously nowhere near as fast. Need minions nearby first of all and apart from that he just has his Q. Fiora probably cannot kill a full tower as fast but if the tower is at half hp she does it in less than 3 seconds.

Also, you think that until you see Chauster jungle Wukong



In other news, just played vs a Renekton with Fiora who started a single hp pot, pushed lane hard from lvl 1 right to my tower, then went back and returned to lane with Chainmail. That's some next level shit.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 29 2013 19:21 GMT
#4155
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.


I think "doe" is a hipster term. My brother says it. I yelled at him for it.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 29 2013 19:22 GMT
#4156
On April 30 2013 04:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.


I think "doe" is a hipster term. My brother says it. I yelled at him for it.


I'm pretty sure it's from The Sound of Music, actually.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 29 2013 19:23 GMT
#4157
I'm having a super difficult time deciding between 19-11-0 (getting -2 champion dmg and full armor pen) and 17-13-0 (getting only +2 armor pen and getting -3 autoattack dmg). But if I go 19-11-0 I feel like I might as well go 21-9-0...

Halp~
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
April 29 2013 19:25 GMT
#4158
On April 30 2013 04:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 04:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.


I think "doe" is a hipster term. My brother says it. I yelled at him for it.


I'm pretty sure it's from The Sound of Music, actually.

a female deer?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 29 2013 19:25 GMT
#4159
On April 30 2013 04:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 04:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.


I think "doe" is a hipster term. My brother says it. I yelled at him for it.


I'm pretty sure it's from The Sound of Music, actually.


And now that's stuck in my head. Fuck you.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
April 29 2013 19:25 GMT
#4160
On April 30 2013 03:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:06 Numy wrote:
On April 30 2013 02:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
From a region perspective, NA Mids don't have the understanding of what Twisted Fate is supposed to do. It seems like such a blunt statement to make but just look at how scarra played TF in the past two weeks and NyJacky in the past.

Regi, for all the flak he gets, his mid/late game TF is half decent. He needs to brush up on his mechanics (hello Red Card ganks, hello Gold Card on minions) and better usage of his first 1-3 Destinies.

Edit: ecco is a superb TF, probably the best NA TF I've seen. Not sure who else comes close.


I think if you look at the great EU mids they all have one thing in common, they know how to split push and do it constantly. That aspect of play is only really able to happen if your have some kind of map sense which is one of the important aspects of TF play.

They also extremely aggressive playmakers. Froggen for all his passivity still forces plays when he's on champs that can do it (Zed/TF etc.)


Zed just mows down towers, it's hilar.

EU Mid Laners must think Zed is a godsend. Riot delivered.
(I still think Kha'Zix is best AD Mid but he's ban status)

% bonus AD helps a lot with that. One of the things I love about Riven ult is burning it after a kill to chunk the hell out of em.
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