• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:08
CEST 22:08
KST 05:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent9Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues20LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris75
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast What happened to Singapore/Brazil servers?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
The Korean Terminology Thread [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent FlaSh on ACS Winners being in ASL ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Is there English video for group selection for ASL [ASL20] Ro16 Group B [ASL20] Ro16 Group A BWCL Season 63 Announcement
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
Nomor CS NeoBank 0822'606969 The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1012 users

[Patch 3.05: Balance Update] General Discussion - Page 208

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 206 207 208 209 210 Next
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 18:39:38
April 29 2013 18:32 GMT
#4141
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 29 2013 18:36 GMT
#4142
On April 30 2013 03:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.

Still going to lose to jiji's team. Hue
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 29 2013 18:36 GMT
#4143
Ive seen fed Rengars kill turrets in 6-7 seconds, the double Q just explodes them.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 18:46:02
April 29 2013 18:45 GMT
#4144
I check TL so much it's finally happened.

[image loading]
Alright no more till I go home. Promise.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 29 2013 18:46 GMT
#4145
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.

Yeah, with as prevalent as lane swaps are it shouldn't be too hard to get Wukong into a solo lane. He can make a lot of Mids' lives a nightmare.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 18:46:53
April 29 2013 18:46 GMT
#4146
On April 30 2013 03:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
I check TL so much it's finally happened.

[image loading]
Alright no more till I go home. Promise.


wowowowowow well done sir
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 29 2013 18:54 GMT
#4147
On April 30 2013 03:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
I check TL so much it's finally happened.

[image loading]
Alright no more till I go home. Promise.

Stop breaking TL.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
April 29 2013 18:56 GMT
#4148
wtf

the best tower pusher in the game is jayce with rank 5 w and some cdr
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 29 2013 18:57 GMT
#4149
On April 30 2013 03:56 Dusty wrote:
wtf

the best tower pusher in the game is jayce with rank 5 w and some cdr


But he doesn't have a good escape like the others. Makes it harder to xPeke like a boss.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
April 29 2013 19:00 GMT
#4150
On April 30 2013 03:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:56 Dusty wrote:
wtf

the best tower pusher in the game is jayce with rank 5 w and some cdr


But he doesn't have a good escape like the others. Makes it harder to xPeke like a boss.


he puts down a gate and runs like the flash. If you get in melee range he can just knock you away.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 29 2013 19:01 GMT
#4151
On April 30 2013 03:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
I check TL so much it's finally happened.

[image loading]
Alright no more till I go home. Promise.

TIL: Subscribed threads and "jump to first unread post"
Conclusion: I'm still a TL scrub ;_;
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
HOOG
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada52 Posts
April 29 2013 19:01 GMT
#4152
You guys are crazy, the best tower pusher is Nasus with a few thousand on his Q
1250 ELO too stronk!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2013 19:03 GMT
#4153
Escape ? Escape suggests you're running from something. Jayce just leaves the lane you're in in favor of a less crowded one.
Wukong doesn't push the waves fast though and he gets oom really fast so I dunno if you can see him as a good tower killer (I cringe when teammates don't let a minion live for my E though).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 19:15:37
April 29 2013 19:12 GMT
#4154
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.

For killing towers? Rengar does Q empowered Q and rofls all over your Wukong with 2+ aspd and another Q ;S I've splitpushed with Wukong and it's seriously nowhere near as fast. Need minions nearby first of all and apart from that he just has his Q. Fiora probably cannot kill a full tower as fast but if the tower is at half hp she does it in less than 3 seconds.

Also, you think that until you see Chauster jungle Wukong



In other news, just played vs a Renekton with Fiora who started a single hp pot, pushed lane hard from lvl 1 right to my tower, then went back and returned to lane with Chainmail. That's some next level shit.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 29 2013 19:21 GMT
#4155
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.


I think "doe" is a hipster term. My brother says it. I yelled at him for it.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 29 2013 19:22 GMT
#4156
On April 30 2013 04:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.


I think "doe" is a hipster term. My brother says it. I yelled at him for it.


I'm pretty sure it's from The Sound of Music, actually.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 29 2013 19:23 GMT
#4157
I'm having a super difficult time deciding between 19-11-0 (getting -2 champion dmg and full armor pen) and 17-13-0 (getting only +2 armor pen and getting -3 autoattack dmg). But if I go 19-11-0 I feel like I might as well go 21-9-0...

Halp~
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
April 29 2013 19:25 GMT
#4158
On April 30 2013 04:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 04:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.


I think "doe" is a hipster term. My brother says it. I yelled at him for it.


I'm pretty sure it's from The Sound of Music, actually.

a female deer?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 29 2013 19:25 GMT
#4159
On April 30 2013 04:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 04:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Dunkmaster YI doe.


I just cringed. I'm usually receptive of League originated memes but "doe" is pretty awful. @_@
I hope it never catches on.

On April 30 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote:
BotRK I guess at least gives Zed that. His splitpushing without it is far weaker. Need that slight bit of attack speed.

The best towerkiller is probably Rengar but he doesn't waveclear nearly as well.


pff, I see your Rengar and raise you Wukong. sup Shikyo?

Still waiting for teams to pick up Wukong, Top or even Mid.
... I even think Wukong would be great for a team like CLG.


I think "doe" is a hipster term. My brother says it. I yelled at him for it.


I'm pretty sure it's from The Sound of Music, actually.


And now that's stuck in my head. Fuck you.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35158 Posts
April 29 2013 19:25 GMT
#4160
On April 30 2013 03:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:06 Numy wrote:
On April 30 2013 02:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
From a region perspective, NA Mids don't have the understanding of what Twisted Fate is supposed to do. It seems like such a blunt statement to make but just look at how scarra played TF in the past two weeks and NyJacky in the past.

Regi, for all the flak he gets, his mid/late game TF is half decent. He needs to brush up on his mechanics (hello Red Card ganks, hello Gold Card on minions) and better usage of his first 1-3 Destinies.

Edit: ecco is a superb TF, probably the best NA TF I've seen. Not sure who else comes close.


I think if you look at the great EU mids they all have one thing in common, they know how to split push and do it constantly. That aspect of play is only really able to happen if your have some kind of map sense which is one of the important aspects of TF play.

They also extremely aggressive playmakers. Froggen for all his passivity still forces plays when he's on champs that can do it (Zed/TF etc.)


Zed just mows down towers, it's hilar.

EU Mid Laners must think Zed is a godsend. Riot delivered.
(I still think Kha'Zix is best AD Mid but he's ban status)

% bonus AD helps a lot with that. One of the things I love about Riven ult is burning it after a kill to chunk the hell out of em.
Prev 1 206 207 208 209 210 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 52m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 623
IndyStarCraft 174
UpATreeSC 89
JuggernautJason50
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2809
Rain 1057
Dewaltoss 175
firebathero 163
Soulkey 81
sSak 49
Mind 43
Killer 31
Dota 2
qojqva4413
League of Legends
Reynor95
Counter-Strike
fl0m1304
pashabiceps1289
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu512
Other Games
Grubby3748
FrodaN1507
B2W.Neo603
Beastyqt376
ToD176
C9.Mang0167
Sick53
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1760
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH240
• davetesta34
• StrangeGG 16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 35
• FirePhoenix11
• Michael_bg 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21615
League of Legends
• TFBlade816
Other Games
• imaqtpie1375
• Shiphtur301
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
3h 52m
Kung Fu Cup
15h 52m
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
OSC
19h 52m
Moja vs Babymarine
Solar vs TBD
sOs vs goblin
Nice vs INexorable
sebesdes vs Iba
Nicoract vs TBD
NightMare vs TBD
OSC
1d 3h
ReBellioN vs PAPI
Spirit vs TBD
Percival vs TBD
TriGGeR vs TBD
Shameless vs UedSoldier
Cham vs TBD
Harstem vs TBD
RSL Revival
1d 13h
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
Kung Fu Cup
1d 15h
The PondCast
1d 16h
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
3 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21: BSL Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.