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On April 09 2013 03:47 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 03:40 TheYango wrote:On April 09 2013 03:18 sylverfyre wrote:
To be fair some of this niche is taken by Runes instead.
I would argue that it was partly the intent of runes and masteries to replace the granularity of starting items in the first place. Agreed. We don't need branches and shit, that's what runes are for. I wouldnt complain if dorans were a little more viable for level 1 items, but that would so easily turn into a situation of "only buy dorans + pots (+ward) level 1 ever"
I mean, I would like to see low-cost dead-end items that represent the extreme for cost/slot-efficiency tradeoffs, but that's not going to happen. And if Riot is just going to make them all build into things, there's not a big reason to have them in the game.
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i see nothing has changed in regards to prime time login queues on EU west TT
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Well the login server was down so now everyone is trying to log in.
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Why every time I forget to turn off my client after playing the server crashes later that day?lololololololololol
Also it never discs me and can join any que xD.
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NA Player Reporting In. No queue or crash yet. Hehehe
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login queue on euw? better give NA RP.
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i hate NA amateur team managers holy fuck, everyone has their head stuck up their ass thinking they actually do shit and act like bigshots when they just piggyback off of players and suck dick to get into the scene.
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What are you trying to say, bly?
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I think we had this conversation before.
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On April 09 2013 03:49 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 03:15 ticklishmusic wrote:
Man, you guys are doing it wrong if you're complaining about not having enough stuff at the start.
I mean like, you have the option of all these wonderful Doran's items, then you can take your pick of consumables and one or two regen items. I think its great.
Also, heavy consumables start is kind of underrated on some supports. Taking 3 or 4 mana pots on Lulu is soooo abusive, and taking the pickpocket mastery totally makes up for it.
EDIT: freeweek blitz, time to always ban The only role you can really open a dorans item is ADC. There are probably some mid lane match ups or top lane match ups where Dring/Dblade/Dshield could work but it'd probably be a bit risky and if you have one even trade you're going to be behind or forced to back to get pots so you have to either farm without being harassed at all or harass them without being harassed back. If they nerf the amount of starting pots you'll just see lots of mid laners go flask+pots or faerie charm+5pot+ward. Non-mana using top laners probably go something like cloth+5pot a lot. edit: I don't wanna go back to season 1 where everyone bought Dblade+2pot or Dring+2pot.
Err, I was being sarcastic. That's why I used italics.
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On April 09 2013 04:26 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 03:49 overt wrote:On April 09 2013 03:15 ticklishmusic wrote:
Man, you guys are doing it wrong if you're complaining about not having enough stuff at the start.
I mean like, you have the option of all these wonderful Doran's items, then you can take your pick of consumables and one or two regen items. I think its great.
Also, heavy consumables start is kind of underrated on some supports. Taking 3 or 4 mana pots on Lulu is soooo abusive, and taking the pickpocket mastery totally makes up for it.
EDIT: freeweek blitz, time to always ban The only role you can really open a dorans item is ADC. There are probably some mid lane match ups or top lane match ups where Dring/Dblade/Dshield could work but it'd probably be a bit risky and if you have one even trade you're going to be behind or forced to back to get pots so you have to either farm without being harassed at all or harass them without being harassed back. If they nerf the amount of starting pots you'll just see lots of mid laners go flask+pots or faerie charm+5pot+ward. Non-mana using top laners probably go something like cloth+5pot a lot. edit: I don't wanna go back to season 1 where everyone bought Dblade+2pot or Dring+2pot. Err, I was being sarcastic. That's why I used italics.
Everyone knows sarcasm is backwards italics.
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On April 09 2013 03:53 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 03:47 sylverfyre wrote:On April 09 2013 03:40 TheYango wrote:On April 09 2013 03:18 sylverfyre wrote:
To be fair some of this niche is taken by Runes instead.
I would argue that it was partly the intent of runes and masteries to replace the granularity of starting items in the first place. Agreed. We don't need branches and shit, that's what runes are for. I wouldnt complain if dorans were a little more viable for level 1 items, but that would so easily turn into a situation of "only buy dorans + pots (+ward) level 1 ever" I mean, I would like to see low-cost dead-end items that represent the extreme for cost/slot-efficiency tradeoffs, but that's not going to happen. And if Riot is just going to make them all build into things, there's not a big reason to have them in the game.
Or even a compromise : It's ok if they DO build into things, but the things they build into are not cost-efficient upgrades. Hexdrinker -> Maw of Malmortius is a good example: You get hexdrinker early, you don't touch maw until you're at 4+ items and you still want it. I feel like Brutalizer->Cleaver and other items should fit this power curve, but it's extremely rare in League. (Haunting Guise/Liandry's Torment is the only other thing I can think of that is even close to a power curve like that.)
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On April 09 2013 04:24 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i hate NA amateur team managers holy fuck, everyone has their head stuck up their ass thinking they actually do shit and act like bigshots when they just piggyback off of players and suck dick to get into the scene.
Uh... What?
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yes Mr unibrow is slowly closing in on yolopete and I expect him to overtake pete by the end of the voting :D
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On April 09 2013 00:02 DrunkenOne wrote:
What items to start with as wukong mid? I guess red elixir + pots + ward, but after the elixir price increase I'm not sure what will make sense. Flask is in theory good due to his high mana costs but I don't love flask starts.
until it's nerfed red elixir start mid is incredibly strong.
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On April 09 2013 04:24 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i hate NA amateur team managers holy fuck, everyone has their head stuck up their ass thinking they actually do shit and act like bigshots when they just piggyback off of players and suck dick to get into the scene.
Which amateur manager(s) are you calling out?
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On April 09 2013 04:33 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 03:53 TheYango wrote:On April 09 2013 03:47 sylverfyre wrote:On April 09 2013 03:40 TheYango wrote:On April 09 2013 03:18 sylverfyre wrote:
To be fair some of this niche is taken by Runes instead.
I would argue that it was partly the intent of runes and masteries to replace the granularity of starting items in the first place. Agreed. We don't need branches and shit, that's what runes are for. I wouldnt complain if dorans were a little more viable for level 1 items, but that would so easily turn into a situation of "only buy dorans + pots (+ward) level 1 ever" I mean, I would like to see low-cost dead-end items that represent the extreme for cost/slot-efficiency tradeoffs, but that's not going to happen. And if Riot is just going to make them all build into things, there's not a big reason to have them in the game. Or even a compromise : It's ok if they DO build into things, but the things they build into are not cost-efficient upgrades. Hexdrinker -> Maw of Malmortius is a good example: You get hexdrinker early, you don't touch maw until you're at 4+ items and you still want it. I feel like Brutalizer->Cleaver and other items should fit this power curve, but it's extremely rare in League. (Haunting Guise/Liandry's Torment is the only other thing I can think of that is even close to a power curve like that.)
Except BC and Liandry's are too strong for that paradigm.
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Last question about wu mid, he was my highest win rate champ in s2 but i played him top, mid are you still going 9/21 or 21/9 for more burst?
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EPT
