• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:59
CEST 15:59
KST 22:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16? RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 2026
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Where is EffOrt? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Beyond All Reason Total War: Warhammer 40K
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8533 users

[Patch 3.05.2: April Fools] League of Legends General Disc…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 113 Next
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
April 03 2013 07:56 GMT
#761
Thanks to whoever suggested jungle Morg with utility masteries.
[image loading]
I want to do some more testing before I jump on ranked (zhonyas rush vs liandry's rush [after ap stone ofc]), but it's a lot of fun to play her :3
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 03 2013 07:56 GMT
#762
On April 03 2013 16:48 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 16:28 TheYango wrote:
It also means that the initial damage from Trundle ulti beats Smite and Feast for last-hitting Baron. Though this is probably an oversight given how pretty much all other % max HP skills are capped against monsters.

I'm like 90% certain this is an oversight and will be rectified before Trundle goes live.


I think it'll probably be capped at like 600/800/1k. Considering how powerful the ulti is when used on a tank, if you're willing to use it on a monster it damn well better do a lot of damage.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 03 2013 08:09 GMT
#763
On April 03 2013 16:56 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 16:48 Ryuu314 wrote:
On April 03 2013 16:28 TheYango wrote:
It also means that the initial damage from Trundle ulti beats Smite and Feast for last-hitting Baron. Though this is probably an oversight given how pretty much all other % max HP skills are capped against monsters.

I'm like 90% certain this is an oversight and will be rectified before Trundle goes live.


I think it'll probably be capped at like 600/800/1k. Considering how powerful the ulti is when used on a tank, if you're willing to use it on a monster it damn well better do a lot of damage.


You used to get Baron/Dragon's HP and Armor back. lol.

I remember being like summoner level 12 and first starting to jungle and abusing that Trundle R to get a quadra kill at baron. I felt so boss.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
April 03 2013 08:36 GMT
#764
On April 02 2013 05:34 samthesaluki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 04:52 mr_tolkien wrote:
Btw, if anybody from US want to add me, I'm lvling an account there during my ban : MrTolkien, lvl 10 atm ! Let's have some fun together :D

Leveling also add worstmiduniverse lvl6 currently


The two of you, whose mains get banned a lot, are going to level up your smurfs together? Sounds like a match made in heaven.

On April 02 2013 08:10 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 08:05 Slusher wrote:
knowing that TL is a minority to the other LoL hubs I feel like the actual results might not be all that much more annoying than that list.

like there is literally 0 reason to elect anyone from CLG, but I feel like doublelift or Aphro will slip thru.


Doublelift will almost certainly make it. Dude is placed so high on the NA pedestal, no one is even close (not in terms of skill, rather popularity). Well unless recent events are to be considered, whereas Chaox might get the pity vote.


I have only watched the first two episodes of Gamecribs but I bet that most of TSM fans are happy with the WildTurtle change and Gamecribs probably made it so a Chaox pity vote won't happen.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 09:47:04
April 03 2013 08:51 GMT
#765
On April 03 2013 16:56 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:
Thanks to whoever suggested jungle Morg with utility masteries.
[image loading]
I want to do some more testing before I jump on ranked (zhonyas rush vs liandry's rush [after ap stone ofc]), but it's a lot of fun to play her :3


ya its pretty decent eh? I had like 5 game winstreak with it like 3-1, 5-2, 6-1, 4-2 etc...

Just watch the fuck out for getting raped by like lee sin/xin duelists jungles at red/wraiths in your own jungle, its pretty brutal if it happens. Get like oneshot by lee at wraiths with Q on CD=bad rest of game.

If you are going against someone like that it could be a good idea to get teh explorer ward and ward your own jungle entrance.

They are buffing Q mana cost next patch it looks like too!

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
April 03 2013 08:58 GMT
#766
Heh, now that you bring this up, I kinda want to try it. I love all the secret-OP stuff TL'ers tend to find. Not that this is necessarily OP, but I think the term fits for all the viable and OP stuff that's been born from this community.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 09:20:46
April 03 2013 09:18 GMT
#767
On April 03 2013 17:58 Cedstick wrote:
Heh, now that you bring this up, I kinda want to try it. I love all the secret-OP stuff TL'ers tend to find. Not that this is necessarily OP, but I think the term fits for all the viable and OP stuff that's been born from this community.


Try it, its totally viable, there is a discussion in the trolls thread.

DAE remember the rune combiner exists?

I just went through and combined like 6 random ass runes i didnt need from like my mouse and a few other things (buying retarded runes by mistake)....the grand result:

[image loading]

sick bro, brb redoing all my pages
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 03 2013 09:24 GMT
#768
Here's an interesting question: How much would they have to buff that quint before people started running it?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Tommie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
China658 Posts
April 03 2013 09:25 GMT
#769
Why oh wy do they have to tweak Trundle? I have just started playing him top and I love him just the way he is. Please riot, keep your hands off my favourite champ.
Being a ho doesn't automatically make you "immoral" or a bad person, but it does make you a ho.
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
April 03 2013 09:32 GMT
#770
On April 03 2013 18:25 Tommie wrote:
Why oh wy do they have to tweak Trundle? I have just started playing him top and I love him just the way he is. Please riot, keep your hands off my favourite champ.


Maybe I'm missing something, but Trundle wasn't changed other than his pillar being turned into ice. I don't quite get the point of the 'tweak'.
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 03 2013 09:43 GMT
#771
What is changed about Trundle:

1. they added a slow of undisclosed strength to his Q
2. they nerfed duration of his patch, also swapped CC reduction for healing/regen boost, buffed its AS later
3. Made pillar a one point wonder, slows 35% at all ranks
4. Made ult percent health, buffed
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 09:57:24
April 03 2013 09:48 GMT
#772
On April 03 2013 18:24 sob3k wrote:
Here's an interesting question: How much would they have to buff that quint before people started running it?


I don't think it would take that much. The defense mastery + 3 of those is already 25% less time spent dead. That is 15+ seconds lategame. A bit more and it would open up a window to rush baron after a teamfight where both teams lost 3-4 players.

It's a really powerful stat, and I don't think riot wants it to be very good, because if everyone runs those quints, they could just as well remove quints all together and reduce death timers accordingly. Same with the Revive summoner, it has the potential to be really powerful, it's just kept underpowered by Riot because it doesn't fit their design ideas.

Edit: About trundle changes: He's still going to play pretty much the same, and will fill the same roles in the same teamcomps.

Q gets a bit of slow, perhaps to make up for the reduced sticking power of the Pillar nerf.
W lower duration and lower CD at higher ranks, as well as synergy with his ult health drain.
Pillar is still the same cd and is still an artificial wall, slow change might change how you skill him, but getting the CD down will probably still be really important.
Ult still fills the same role of stealing tankyness from the other team and giving it to yourself.

Still the same hard to kill, low dmg, disruptive troll
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 03 2013 09:50 GMT
#773
Pillar's not going to be a 1-point wonder. You're still going to level it for the CD (which was the main reason to level it in the first place, not the increased slow %) because perma-pillar is more game-changing than anything else that his kit does.
Moderator
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
April 03 2013 10:35 GMT
#774
Really sad I didn't pick up Sejuani when she was on sale a while back, her reworked kit looks super amazing.
Tommie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
China658 Posts
April 03 2013 10:50 GMT
#775
I am still pissed about the changes. The old Trundle was unique both in his lore and his abilities. The slow on the Q isn't nearly as exciting as the AD debuff. I don't know the exact details about the ult but I loved the old one and I hope the draining mechanic stays the same, I can agree with changing it from doing flat damage to percentage damage though. I don't like the removal of CC reduction on the W.
Most of all I'm pissed about the changes of the artwork and the lore. Trundle was unique. I dont want a generic ice troll muscle dude. I don't want a generic slow. I want my Trundle back.
Being a ho doesn't automatically make you "immoral" or a bad person, but it does make you a ho.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
April 03 2013 10:51 GMT
#776
On April 03 2013 19:35 Serelitz wrote:
Really sad I didn't pick up Sejuani when she was on sale a while back, her reworked kit looks super amazing.


I managed to buy Riven and Sejuani with a single click because the client bugged out. I bought Riven, it said "Congratulation, you have bought Sejuani". Lost double the amount of RP too. Lets hope they made her good, she's pretty fun to play already, just so little dmg.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 11:14:40
April 03 2013 11:14 GMT
#777
Congrats on getting the hammer, yango. Can't think of anyone more deserving. Sorry if this is a bit late.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 12:54:18
April 03 2013 12:53 GMT
#778
On April 03 2013 15:16 LateralusGaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 14:22 sung_moon wrote:
On April 03 2013 13:13 Slaughter wrote:
Yea I HATED the Karthus lore change. It was so good, it had some elements of mystery to it. Now its just generic.


Don't remember what Karthus was before the change, but that sounds exactly like what they did to Morde's. Before, he would roam teh back alleys and nobody knew where this terror is/came from. Now it just doesn't seem nearly as cool.

I know most people don't tend care about the LoL lore, but its still something I enjoy when I get bored and randomly browse champ's lore.

Jax's lore da bess. Kassadin's is pretty beast too.


Can anyone summarize the old lores? I'm pretty intrigued now. I feel as though I'm missing a part of LoL history with all the changes they made.

They're available in the "background" panel on the champs' wiki pages (old lores are a bit lower). Basically, Morde is "that dude that comes from nowhere/the shadow isles, is rumoured to be cursed, undead, an empty suit of armour of some other theories, but appears at least 8 feet tall in a big spiked suit of armour, and made a request to get into the League. Since then he hangs around Noxus' slums, people not knowing exactly if that's he's drawn by sickness, or if he's spreading it himself in those filthy alleys (though his touch is contagious). The worst part is that he doesn't look like your half-assed soldier, so you've got to wonder if he's the general or a footman. In the former case what kind of army may be at his command? In the latter, how many more like him are lurking out there?"

Gives much more room, character, and mystery than the current one "hey yo I'm a dude that sustains himself from inflicting pain on others, and when I kill somebody I can enslave his soul to obey me, hurr durr".

On April 03 2013 16:25 Seuss wrote:
Fun PBE Fact: The Health steal from Trundle's ultimate doesn't increase his maximum Health, but heals him.
Fun PBE Fact: Trundle's W (and Spirit Visage) increases the healing from his ultimate.
Fun PBE Fact: Trundle's ultimate can be used on Baron (and Dragon/Blue/Red), though it doesn't reduce Armor/MR.

The net result of all this is that Trundle can basically full heal himself instantly by combining his W (and maybe SV) with an ult on Baron. Baron has 11572 Health at 20 minutes, meaning that even without any bonuses Trundle's rank 2 ultimate will heal him for 1447 Health, and then again over 5 seconds. With SV and W (which stack multiplicatively) that increases to 2085 Health.

Basically, in any Baron fight Trundle can heal himself for the value of 3-4 Warmog's.

Apparently it's a bug because Trundle can still ult dragon/baron currently (he just only steals health, not stats) and the skill infobox says it targets a champion, so they forgot to disable it on non-champ units. He never increased his max health btw, the "drain" was always in the form of a heal (think Morde's ult).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 13:57:54
April 03 2013 13:57 GMT
#779
man, I wish riot would just let it happen. I mean, trundle's a kind-of-weak character that feels like he can currently only be picked very situationally depending on the enemy teamcomp-- giving him a really strong conditional advantage over other junglers in one area would be a pretty cool move towards specializing champs a bit more and letting teams get more creative with comps and gameplans! That'd be really cool!
:3
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
April 03 2013 13:57 GMT
#780
On April 03 2013 18:18 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 17:58 Cedstick wrote:
Heh, now that you bring this up, I kinda want to try it. I love all the secret-OP stuff TL'ers tend to find. Not that this is necessarily OP, but I think the term fits for all the viable and OP stuff that's been born from this community.


Try it, its totally viable, there is a discussion in the trolls thread.

DAE remember the rune combiner exists?

I just went through and combined like 6 random ass runes i didnt need from like my mouse and a few other things (buying retarded runes by mistake)....the grand result:

[image loading]

sick bro, brb redoing all my pages

I don't think I'd want revival runes to be good, it'd warp the game in the wrong ways. I feel they mostly exist to give people who have already bought everything an IP sink.
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 113 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
#12
IntoTheiNu 967
RotterdaM672
WardiTV664
TKL 312
Ryung 145
Rex145
SteadfastSC140
CosmosSc2 66
EnkiAlexander 30
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 672
TKL 312
Rex 145
Ryung 145
SteadfastSC 140
CosmosSc2 66
Railgan 56
RushiSC 23
trigger 13
SHIN 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3001
Shuttle 1468
BeSt 1083
Horang2 1029
Mini 968
EffOrt 783
Soulkey 772
Light 564
Snow 366
ggaemo 249
[ Show more ]
Sharp 190
Mong 171
hero 162
Zeus 93
Leta 62
ToSsGirL 52
[sc1f]eonzerg 45
Movie 40
JYJ 34
Aegong 25
sorry 24
Free 23
Backho 21
NaDa 20
Sacsri 18
scan(afreeca) 15
GoRush 15
Terrorterran 15
zelot 12
soO 12
IntoTheRainbow 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Noble 8
Rock 7
Icarus 4
Dota 2
Dendi1835
qojqva1212
syndereN298
XcaliburYe266
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
byalli292
kRYSTAL_49
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King100
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr10
Other Games
B2W.Neo807
hiko761
Lowko529
crisheroes350
DeMusliM253
Pyrionflax239
XaKoH 189
Sick183
mouzStarbuck124
QueenE57
Dewaltoss25
ArmadaUGS23
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream495
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1959
• TFBlade681
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
20h 1m
WardiTV Spring Champion…
21h 1m
OSC
23h 1m
OSC
1d 10h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 20h
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 21h
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
GSL
3 days
Patches Events
4 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-16
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.