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On April 02 2013 23:53 Klive5ive wrote:
We need to pull together and start tactical voting against the fanboys.
Spread the word!
As much as it pains me I won't be voting for Bergson again, xPeke needs to beat Froggen.
And if Candypanda doesn't make it into 2nd I'm going to have to start voting Genja instead, we can't have yellowpete going!
Yes, because obviously, we are better judges of deciding who should be the favourite players of everyone who votes.
This "he isn't the best player in my opinion, so others aren't allowed to like him" attitude is probably the worst I have seen on this subforum in a long time.
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On April 02 2013 22:47 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 22:42 Klive5ive wrote:On April 02 2013 22:34 Redox wrote:
I dont get why everyone is so excited about the whole all-star thing. I mean we all know that pro LoL is not about randomly throwing together some individuals, but having a real team with synergy, common strategies etc. Any real, established team should beat any "all-star" team 9 out of 10 times. So in the end this is just about which region manages to send the most amount of players from one team, ideally all players from one team.
But Europe will send a mix of Gambit/EG players, which will never ever work. Its the stupidest thing ever. I mean if they did something like that for fun, that would be cool. But mixing such show/fun games with the competetive side of things by giving out an extra spot at the finals for this is just retarded. Synergy comes from being good and it's not like they've never met each other before. How many times have we seen a sub bring an initial boost to a team - fresh strategies and ideas are often a good thing. They will feel they have a job to do and will have confidence from the fact that they've been selected. And the prize of an extra region spot is SO good that you can guarantee the players will take it dam seriously and turn up at that tournament determined to win. Personally I can't wait and I bet the games will be very high level. If you bring in one new player into an established team of 4 it can be alright. Well if that one is not the jungler. Other than that, forget about it. Especially if you think of gambit players, who are just used to listening to calls from Alex_Ich. I dont expect any synergy between EG and Gambit players. Also, why would any Gambit player care about this extra spot? Sorry, but with this extra spot been given out for such random shit the whole thing is just a mockery of competetive LoL.
In the MLB, the winner of the All Star game(also voted in by fans) gets home field advantage for the finals.
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Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 00:18 Antyee wrote:On April 02 2013 23:53 Klive5ive wrote:
We need to pull together and start tactical voting against the fanboys.
Spread the word!
As much as it pains me I won't be voting for Bergson again, xPeke needs to beat Froggen.
And if Candypanda doesn't make it into 2nd I'm going to have to start voting Genja instead, we can't have yellowpete going! Yes, because obviously, we are better judges of deciding who should be the favourite players of everyone who votes. This "he isn't the best player in my opinion, so others aren't allowed to like him" attitude is probably the worst I have seen on this subforum in a long time.
while riot may have put " vote for your favourite player" on the website all the facebook/twitter posts from the actual pros themselves states that you should vote for the strongest lineup to represent
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On April 03 2013 00:26 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 22:47 Redox wrote:On April 02 2013 22:42 Klive5ive wrote:On April 02 2013 22:34 Redox wrote:
I dont get why everyone is so excited about the whole all-star thing. I mean we all know that pro LoL is not about randomly throwing together some individuals, but having a real team with synergy, common strategies etc. Any real, established team should beat any "all-star" team 9 out of 10 times. So in the end this is just about which region manages to send the most amount of players from one team, ideally all players from one team.
But Europe will send a mix of Gambit/EG players, which will never ever work. Its the stupidest thing ever. I mean if they did something like that for fun, that would be cool. But mixing such show/fun games with the competetive side of things by giving out an extra spot at the finals for this is just retarded. Synergy comes from being good and it's not like they've never met each other before. How many times have we seen a sub bring an initial boost to a team - fresh strategies and ideas are often a good thing. They will feel they have a job to do and will have confidence from the fact that they've been selected. And the prize of an extra region spot is SO good that you can guarantee the players will take it dam seriously and turn up at that tournament determined to win. Personally I can't wait and I bet the games will be very high level. If you bring in one new player into an established team of 4 it can be alright. Well if that one is not the jungler. Other than that, forget about it. Especially if you think of gambit players, who are just used to listening to calls from Alex_Ich. I dont expect any synergy between EG and Gambit players. Also, why would any Gambit player care about this extra spot? Sorry, but with this extra spot been given out for such random shit the whole thing is just a mockery of competetive LoL. In the MLB, the winner of the All Star game(also voted in by fans) gets home field advantage for the finals.
To be fair though, a lot of people hate that rule too.
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I'm pretty sure that from a strategic point of view Gambit would LOVE to see an extra spot go to EU or NA... And not another Chinese or Korean team :p
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With hecarim, is it better to rush the Lizard or the Frozen Gauntlet? Most of the times, I go for the Frozen first. but last game, someone called me a noob because I did -.-
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On April 03 2013 00:27 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 00:18 Antyee wrote:On April 02 2013 23:53 Klive5ive wrote:
We need to pull together and start tactical voting against the fanboys.
Spread the word!
As much as it pains me I won't be voting for Bergson again, xPeke needs to beat Froggen.
And if Candypanda doesn't make it into 2nd I'm going to have to start voting Genja instead, we can't have yellowpete going! Yes, because obviously, we are better judges of deciding who should be the favourite players of everyone who votes. This "he isn't the best player in my opinion, so others aren't allowed to like him" attitude is probably the worst I have seen on this subforum in a long time. while riot may have put " vote for your favourite player" on the website all the facebook/twitter posts from the actual pros themselves states that you should vote for the strongest lineup to represent
This is not true.
I just went through every single EU LCS player's twitter and facebook, and only Froggen and EdWard used the word "best" or anything meaning that.
At least 5 used the word "favourite", a few just asked people to vote, Hosan asked to vote for him.
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On April 03 2013 00:39 XenOmega wrote:
With hecarim, is it better to rush the Lizard or the Frozen Gauntlet? Most of the times, I go for the Frozen first. but last game, someone called me a noob because I did -.-
By reading your comment I expect this to be roughly your 5-th game of league of legends.This is a popular game so the community is mostly assholes don't be surprised and don't let that shit get to you.
It's not a bad choice for items.
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On April 03 2013 00:18 Antyee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 23:53 Klive5ive wrote:
We need to pull together and start tactical voting against the fanboys.
Spread the word!
As much as it pains me I won't be voting for Bergson again, xPeke needs to beat Froggen.
And if Candypanda doesn't make it into 2nd I'm going to have to start voting Genja instead, we can't have yellowpete going! Yes, because obviously, we are better judges of deciding who should be the favourite players of everyone who votes. This "he isn't the best player in my opinion, so others aren't allowed to like him" attitude is probably the worst I have seen on this subforum in a long time.
It's not obvious at all what the hell you're on about!
Who has the attitude that people aren't allowed to like certain players? Certainly not me. You're just massively strawmanning.
I don't want to be a judge of who is the favourite player? That doesn't even make any sense.
I, like many others on this forum (based on their comments not random guessing!) want the best possible players going from each region for it to be an exciting competition. If you can't have your first choice you may as well vote for your second. At the moment many people's 4th, 5th and 6th choices are winning because of other non-gaming reasons - that's why I think we should tactically vote to avoid this.
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If China has Zz1tai and Weixiao they will just straight up win the all star game imoimoimo.
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On April 03 2013 01:05 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 00:18 Antyee wrote:On April 02 2013 23:53 Klive5ive wrote:
We need to pull together and start tactical voting against the fanboys.
Spread the word!
As much as it pains me I won't be voting for Bergson again, xPeke needs to beat Froggen.
And if Candypanda doesn't make it into 2nd I'm going to have to start voting Genja instead, we can't have yellowpete going! Yes, because obviously, we are better judges of deciding who should be the favourite players of everyone who votes. This "he isn't the best player in my opinion, so others aren't allowed to like him" attitude is probably the worst I have seen on this subforum in a long time. It's not obvious at all what the hell you're on about! Who has the attitude that people aren't allowed to like certain players? Certainly not me. You're just massively strawmanning. I don't want to be a judge of who is the favourite player? That doesn't even make any sense. I, like many others on this forum (based on their comments not random guessing!) want the best possible players going from each region for it to be an exciting competition. If you can't have your first choice you may as well vote for your second. At the moment many people's 4th, 5th and 6th choices are winning because of other non-gaming reasons - that's why I think we should tactically vote to avoid this.
Go and hit up a dictionary on strawman.
Actually read my post and understand my problem with your attitude.
Then come back and try to make a proper response.
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Udyr change on tiger is probably way too much. Frontloading damage is just going to make it even more appealing to use r once and q once and then wait for cds while using w and e instead of having to actually think about what you are maxing and sticking to that stance more.
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On April 03 2013 01:14 Slayer91 wrote:
Udyr change on tiger is probably way too much. Frontloading damage is just going to make it even more appealing to use r once and q once and then wait for cds while using w and e instead of having to actually think about what you are maxing and sticking to that stance more.
Realized a bit ago that AD on Tiger proc is now off Bonus AD, not total AD, which makes more sense. Probably to make Tiger less "wtf how did he eliminate my health bar at level 2" in lane but make him more of a late game threat if you actually get to build something like BC, SotEL or BotRK.
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the funny thing is I get the impression that all those fanboys on reddit don't even realize that this is not NA vs EU only and how crucial it is to send the best team possible to even have a tiny chance of securing that extra spot.
Although I have my doubts any combination of allstar would have a chance if china sends something like
pdd
illusion
zztai
weixai
fzzf
or taiwan
stanley
lantyr
westdoor
bebe
mistake
Don't even know what I'd chose as allstar team for Korea xD
probably
maknoon/shy
insec
rapidstar
pray
madlife
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my all star korean lu would be:
shy
madlife
cloudtemplar
score
rapidstar
basicially its cj frost+Score 
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On April 03 2013 01:18 AsnSensation wrote:
the funny thing is I get the impression that all those fanboys on reddit don't even realize that this is not NA vs EU only and how crucial it is to send the best team possible to even have a tiny chance of securing that extra spot.
Although I have my doubts any combination of allstar would have a chance if china sends something like
pdd
illusion
zztai
weixai
fzzf
If I didn't live in America I would probably put money on that team. Wx is unquestioned best ADC in the world. Zz1tai is probably the best mid laner. PDD is in the conversation for best top laner in the world. People really don't have enough respect for how much talent China has. Always paying too much attention to Korea.
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On April 03 2013 01:30 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 01:18 AsnSensation wrote:
the funny thing is I get the impression that all those fanboys on reddit don't even realize that this is not NA vs EU only and how crucial it is to send the best team possible to even have a tiny chance of securing that extra spot.
Although I have my doubts any combination of allstar would have a chance if china sends something like
pdd
illusion
zztai
weixai
fzzf If I didn't live in America I would probably put money on that team. Wx is unquestioned best ADC in the world. Zz1tai is probably the best mid laner. PDD is in the conversation for best top laner in the world. People really don't have enough respect for how much talent China has. Always paying too much attention to Korea.
Well, it's really hard to get a good grasp of the Chinese scene. KR is way more accessible.
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On April 03 2013 00:26 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 22:47 Redox wrote:On April 02 2013 22:42 Klive5ive wrote:On April 02 2013 22:34 Redox wrote:
I dont get why everyone is so excited about the whole all-star thing. I mean we all know that pro LoL is not about randomly throwing together some individuals, but having a real team with synergy, common strategies etc. Any real, established team should beat any "all-star" team 9 out of 10 times. So in the end this is just about which region manages to send the most amount of players from one team, ideally all players from one team.
But Europe will send a mix of Gambit/EG players, which will never ever work. Its the stupidest thing ever. I mean if they did something like that for fun, that would be cool. But mixing such show/fun games with the competetive side of things by giving out an extra spot at the finals for this is just retarded. Synergy comes from being good and it's not like they've never met each other before. How many times have we seen a sub bring an initial boost to a team - fresh strategies and ideas are often a good thing. They will feel they have a job to do and will have confidence from the fact that they've been selected. And the prize of an extra region spot is SO good that you can guarantee the players will take it dam seriously and turn up at that tournament determined to win. Personally I can't wait and I bet the games will be very high level. If you bring in one new player into an established team of 4 it can be alright. Well if that one is not the jungler. Other than that, forget about it. Especially if you think of gambit players, who are just used to listening to calls from Alex_Ich. I dont expect any synergy between EG and Gambit players. Also, why would any Gambit player care about this extra spot? Sorry, but with this extra spot been given out for such random shit the whole thing is just a mockery of competetive LoL. In the MLB, the winner of the All Star game(also voted in by fans) gets home field advantage for the finals.
Well I have trouble anyway to see American professional sports as real sports and not just a show. You buy yourself into the league, cant get relegated, many meaningless games etc. Would never happen in Europe.
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Any Korean all-star team needs Locodoco on it
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On April 03 2013 01:34 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 00:26 Gahlo wrote:On April 02 2013 22:47 Redox wrote:On April 02 2013 22:42 Klive5ive wrote:On April 02 2013 22:34 Redox wrote:
I dont get why everyone is so excited about the whole all-star thing. I mean we all know that pro LoL is not about randomly throwing together some individuals, but having a real team with synergy, common strategies etc. Any real, established team should beat any "all-star" team 9 out of 10 times. So in the end this is just about which region manages to send the most amount of players from one team, ideally all players from one team.
But Europe will send a mix of Gambit/EG players, which will never ever work. Its the stupidest thing ever. I mean if they did something like that for fun, that would be cool. But mixing such show/fun games with the competetive side of things by giving out an extra spot at the finals for this is just retarded. Synergy comes from being good and it's not like they've never met each other before. How many times have we seen a sub bring an initial boost to a team - fresh strategies and ideas are often a good thing. They will feel they have a job to do and will have confidence from the fact that they've been selected. And the prize of an extra region spot is SO good that you can guarantee the players will take it dam seriously and turn up at that tournament determined to win. Personally I can't wait and I bet the games will be very high level. If you bring in one new player into an established team of 4 it can be alright. Well if that one is not the jungler. Other than that, forget about it. Especially if you think of gambit players, who are just used to listening to calls from Alex_Ich. I dont expect any synergy between EG and Gambit players. Also, why would any Gambit player care about this extra spot? Sorry, but with this extra spot been given out for such random shit the whole thing is just a mockery of competetive LoL. In the MLB, the winner of the All Star game(also voted in by fans) gets home field advantage for the finals. Well I have trouble anyway to see American professional sports as real sports and not just a show. You buy yourself into the league, cant get relegated, many meaningless games etc. Would never happen in Europe.
The amount of European sports elitism seething from this post is unprecedented.
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