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On March 20 2013 12:28 Alaric wrote:
The Zac release skin is either incomplete or just a recolor with a different recall animation... well, I guess there's only so much you can do with a blob. :/
Stay puff marshmellow man, Riot pls
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On March 20 2013 13:27 Sufficiency wrote: And ChaoX is taking a break from LoL.... lolz. The fall of TSM? I heard it was only for a week.
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On March 20 2013 14:05 randomKo_Orean wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 12:30 Sufficiency wrote:On March 20 2013 12:29 Gahlo wrote:On March 20 2013 12:24 Sufficiency wrote: The new Karma's numbers seem awful. 45 seconds CD on ult? Seriously?! Also her mantra'ed abilities are very underwhelming. Spells reduce it by a second, autos by .5 second. Relax. I am aware of that, but she can't use it twice in a fight. EDIT: oh wait. Her mantra'ed E is an AOE shield... ok nvm... Her mantra's e is aoe shield to begin with. Losing the passive (the new passive should be basically part of her ulti) and a mantra is really going to screw her up. RIOT, why y change karma 
I have a hard time believing any rework to Karma could leave her worse than her current state. Riot has put too much time and money to just drop this remake anyway. Just wait for it to hit live servers, then you can whine if she's weak.
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On March 20 2013 14:02 GettingIt wrote: So I went from seeing Nunu almost every game and now no one uses him. Was his nerf really so bad that he is not worth picking anymore?
Well, now that he's weaker people have to, y'know, actually think about positioning and mana use and stuff instead of just spamming BB all day.
Poop, need to farm IP so I can be a scumbag owner.
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On March 20 2013 14:46 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 14:02 GettingIt wrote: So I went from seeing Nunu almost every game and now no one uses him. Was his nerf really so bad that he is not worth picking anymore? Well, now that he's weaker people have to, y'know, actually think about positioning and mana use and stuff instead of just spamming BB all day. Poop, need to farm IP so I can be a scumbag owner.
Plus...Sona Lulu are his toughest lanes...and super common.
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Voyboy playing toplane Viktor against Nidalee, maxing Q>W>E zzzz
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On March 20 2013 15:05 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 14:46 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 20 2013 14:02 GettingIt wrote: So I went from seeing Nunu almost every game and now no one uses him. Was his nerf really so bad that he is not worth picking anymore? Well, now that he's weaker people have to, y'know, actually think about positioning and mana use and stuff instead of just spamming BB all day. Poop, need to farm IP so I can be a scumbag owner. Plus...Sona Lulu are his toughest lanes...and super common.
Sona/Ez isn't a thing anymore though
And maybe its just cuz I don't play Sona much anymore, but I feel like I don't see her anymore.
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Sona Ez is played all the time?
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On March 20 2013 14:35 zodde wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 14:05 randomKo_Orean wrote:On March 20 2013 12:30 Sufficiency wrote:On March 20 2013 12:29 Gahlo wrote:On March 20 2013 12:24 Sufficiency wrote: The new Karma's numbers seem awful. 45 seconds CD on ult? Seriously?! Also her mantra'ed abilities are very underwhelming. Spells reduce it by a second, autos by .5 second. Relax. I am aware of that, but she can't use it twice in a fight. EDIT: oh wait. Her mantra'ed E is an AOE shield... ok nvm... Her mantra's e is aoe shield to begin with. Losing the passive (the new passive should be basically part of her ulti) and a mantra is really going to screw her up. RIOT, why y change karma  I have a hard time believing any rework to Karma could leave her worse than her current state. Riot has put too much time and money to just drop this remake anyway. Just wait for it to hit live servers, then you can whine if she's weak.
Reworked kayle is such garbage compared to pre-rework kayle where her passive was outright bonkers, so reworks certainly can suck cock in comparison to older versions. Kayle was actually played infrequently too when they reworked her because she lost flavor as an ad carry of choice for a while. Then the did the rework and people still tried the old rageblade builds on her and saw how shitty it was and gave up. It wasn't until people did IE PD that she became a little popular again, partially due to dyrus. In s3 she's a lot more popular b/c of lindrays + nashors, but still nothing compared to what she was back in s1.
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On March 20 2013 15:24 BlackPaladin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 14:35 zodde wrote:On March 20 2013 14:05 randomKo_Orean wrote:On March 20 2013 12:30 Sufficiency wrote:On March 20 2013 12:29 Gahlo wrote:On March 20 2013 12:24 Sufficiency wrote: The new Karma's numbers seem awful. 45 seconds CD on ult? Seriously?! Also her mantra'ed abilities are very underwhelming. Spells reduce it by a second, autos by .5 second. Relax. I am aware of that, but she can't use it twice in a fight. EDIT: oh wait. Her mantra'ed E is an AOE shield... ok nvm... Her mantra's e is aoe shield to begin with. Losing the passive (the new passive should be basically part of her ulti) and a mantra is really going to screw her up. RIOT, why y change karma  I have a hard time believing any rework to Karma could leave her worse than her current state. Riot has put too much time and money to just drop this remake anyway. Just wait for it to hit live servers, then you can whine if she's weak. Reworked kayle is such garbage compared to pre-rework kayle where her passive was outright bonkers, so reworks certainly can suck cock in comparison to older versions. Kayle was actually played infrequently too when they reworked her because she lost flavor as an ad carry of choice for a while. Then the did the rework and people still tried the old rageblade builds on her and saw how shitty it was and gave up. It wasn't until people did IE PD that she became a little popular again, partially due to dyrus. In s3 she's a lot more popular b/c of lindrays + nashors, but still nothing compared to what she was back in s1.
Come on, that's not what I said. I was talking about Karma specifically, not reworks in general. If Riot end up making Karma worse than she currently is, they've really outdone themselves.
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Ahh then yeah i agree. I just wish they didn't change her passive and just made her new passive part of her ult. It's kind of silly to dedicate her passive merely to affect her ults cd when her ult is merely a supercharge for her 3 basic abilities.
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Stayed up till 3 AM finishing the NA LCS Week 5 write-up, if you guys don't love it I may die on the inside, just an fyi.
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On March 20 2013 15:53 BlackPaladin wrote: Ahh then yeah i agree. I just wish they didn't change her passive and just made her new passive part of her ult. It's kind of silly to dedicate her passive merely to affect her ults cd when her ult is merely a supercharge for her 3 basic abilities.
Yeah I can agree with that. Pre-remake, she had no real ult. Now she doesn't really have a passive either. Even if they make her less interesting to play, atleast she might be viable?
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On March 20 2013 15:20 Craton wrote: Sona Ez is played all the time?
I haven't seen it in 5ever, but like I said, maybe just me
New Karma feels pretty good. She feels like an AP mid rather than a support though, reminds me of Morgana now actually. Her kit is uber flexible and seems to kick ass in teamfights. Q for a ton of damage and slow, E for shields on everyone and a ton of damage (seriously, its like exploding locket).
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Meh her passive is pretty boring now.The old karma passive was what made her fun and interesting in the first place(one of the best passive designs in game by far imo),the new one is just another faceless ability that let's you spam more so w/e
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Anyone else having trouble logging in? Its saying failure to connect to the server. Reattemping attempt #4
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New Karma fits laning phase much better, although I feel like she lost out on both utility and damage in her rework.
Loses the Burst heal, loses the % heal, loses ally healing, loses the full team movespeed buff/debuff, shield gets nerfed in terms of base numbers and scaling.
Q hit much harder on new Karma, but much smaller cone, and cant use damage Q in conjunction with her old bossmode E. She loses her awesome passive, and all she really gains to show for it is the root.
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What's Phantomlord doing in Korea?
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
I hope WildTurtle can shake things up for TSM in a good way.
And I see a lot of people hatin' on Karma - but has anyone actually played her yet?
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So far the new Karma seems intersting because it makes her more reliable than old Karma, and her W seems to be useful. So far only reading the numbers it seems like she might be a good champion.
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