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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 03:34:14
March 20 2013 03:30 GMT
#321
On March 20 2013 12:29 Gahlo wrote:
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On March 20 2013 12:24 Sufficiency wrote:
The new Karma's numbers seem awful. 45 seconds CD on ult? Seriously?! Also her mantra'ed abilities are very underwhelming.

Spells reduce it by a second, autos by .5 second. Relax.


I am aware of that, but she can't use it twice in a fight.

EDIT: oh wait. Her mantra'ed E is an AOE shield... ok nvm...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 03:47:33
March 20 2013 03:46 GMT
#322
That depends.

If you land a Q on one guy every time it's up the CD on mantra is actually around 16 seconds (when the CDR is 2 seconds, it increases as you level). That's easily twice any fight that isn't one-sided. Even at 27 seconds that's shorter than Cho's feast which in longer fights you can sometimes use twice.

The thing is what do you want to mantra in a team fight? Mantra Q requires setup because *anyone* can just walk out of the delayed damage even on a direct hit. Mantra W is great for 1v1 but doesn't help your team much. Mantra E... well I'd have to try it in a real team fight to see but the damage would be higher than a mantra Q that wiffed, the AOE shield is about as strong as locket not counting AP.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 20 2013 03:50 GMT
#323
On March 20 2013 12:18 beefhamburger wrote:
Curse vs. CLG+sayocean(?) subbing for aphro scrim
http://clgaming.net/live/5771-crs-voyboy

Say0cean is CLG's General Manager/PR/Marketing dude.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
March 20 2013 04:06 GMT
#324
On March 20 2013 12:50 MoonBear wrote:
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On March 20 2013 12:18 beefhamburger wrote:
Curse vs. CLG+sayocean(?) subbing for aphro scrim
http://clgaming.net/live/5771-crs-voyboy

Say0cean is CLG's General Manager/PR/Marketing dude.


I would assume it's just sayocean's account with aphro playing.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
March 20 2013 04:07 GMT
#325
Why wouldn't he just use his own account?
twitch.tv/cratonz
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
March 20 2013 04:09 GMT
#326
On March 20 2013 13:07 Craton wrote:
Why wouldn't he just use his own account?


Didn't he get banned for two weeks?
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 04:11:42
March 20 2013 04:09 GMT
#327
On March 20 2013 13:07 Craton wrote:
Why wouldn't he just use his own account?

Seems risky, considering the whole elo-boosting thing (the whole idea is it broke term of service)....

Anyways, watching curse scrim with clg; curse looking very rusty playing with nyjacky.
Also interesting team comp, going for triple support + carry.
liftlift > tsm
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
March 20 2013 04:16 GMT
#328
On March 20 2013 13:09 emperorchampion wrote:
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On March 20 2013 13:07 Craton wrote:
Why wouldn't he just use his own account?


Didn't he get banned for two weeks?

I dunno, I don't really keep up with these things. I figured he wouldn't be banned because he has a good personality, but he found another way to get banned evidently.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 04:17:36
March 20 2013 04:17 GMT
#329
this is clearly a high level tarp from riot, ban the accounts and let the teams show up for LCS,

THEN BAN FOR SMURFING AND SHARING ACCOUNTS
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 20 2013 04:20 GMT
#330
On March 20 2013 13:09 wei2coolman wrote:
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On March 20 2013 13:07 Craton wrote:
Why wouldn't he just use his own account?

Seems risky, considering the whole elo-boosting thing (the whole idea is it broke term of service)....

Anyways, watching curse scrim with clg; curse looking very rusty playing with nyjacky.
Also interesting team comp, going for triple support + carry.

it's probably fine as long as he doesn't enter any matchmade game
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 20 2013 04:20 GMT
#331
On March 20 2013 12:46 phyvo wrote:
That depends.

If you land a Q on one guy every time it's up the CD on mantra is actually around 16 seconds (when the CDR is 2 seconds, it increases as you level). That's easily twice any fight that isn't one-sided. Even at 27 seconds that's shorter than Cho's feast which in longer fights you can sometimes use twice.

The thing is what do you want to mantra in a team fight? Mantra Q requires setup because *anyone* can just walk out of the delayed damage even on a direct hit. Mantra W is great for 1v1 but doesn't help your team much. Mantra E... well I'd have to try it in a real team fight to see but the damage would be higher than a mantra Q that wiffed, the AOE shield is about as strong as locket not counting AP.


You can't say "land a Q every time...." because it does require her Q to actually hit a target. She is not Zilean.

Fact of the matter is, in a teamfight, mantra'ed Q requires a set up (and the AOE is pretty small for a spell that needs set up), mantra'ed W is useless, and the only good thing seems to be mantra'ed E.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
March 20 2013 04:21 GMT
#332
I think the point he was after is that even in a best-case scenario it's quite long.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 20 2013 04:24 GMT
#333
On March 20 2013 13:21 Craton wrote:
I think the point he was after is that even in a best-case scenario it's quite long.


So yeah, she still seems pretty bad.... I don't know, making such a judgement without actually playing her is probably not a good idea, but I don't really see anything appealing from her kit beside the AOE shield (which, btw, why not just play Lux).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 20 2013 04:27 GMT
#334
And ChaoX is taking a break from LoL.... lolz. The fall of TSM?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 20 2013 04:30 GMT
#335
this triple support thing, curse is doing (similar to digs ipl4 build), lol elementz has more AP than Jacky. rofl.
liftlift > tsm
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
March 20 2013 04:39 GMT
#336
Lulu with farm is great. I'm a bit surprised at Voyboy's build though, her AP ratios don't really seem good enough to justify Deathcap rush. Where's the Nashor's?
I am the Town Medic.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13977 Posts
March 20 2013 04:39 GMT
#337
On March 20 2013 13:27 Sufficiency wrote:
And ChaoX is taking a break from LoL.... lolz. The fall of TSM?

Xspecial was pretty depressed in his vlog this week. Aparently going 2-1 at dallas only made them more frustrated as a team.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
March 20 2013 04:50 GMT
#338
On March 20 2013 13:27 Sufficiency wrote:
And ChaoX is taking a break from LoL.... lolz. The fall of TSM?


I disagree. I'm of the opinion that you NEED fresh blood into the more established teams. Chaox has been really stagnant whether it be he hit his skill cap or just simply lost passion of the game but he has not exerted dominance as a ADC for awhile now. I used to be a big TSM fan till I made a hard switch over to Asian teams + GG simply because I admire good games.

On March 20 2013 04:48 clickrush wrote:

2. caitlyn: I think ppl like her because she is easy to play during the laning phase. What alot of players don't realize is that she actually has to snowball her early advantage to be as useful as other ad carries. she is probably the worst scaling ad carry in the game with her only steroid literally being her range which other ad carries can also provide, while cait lacks that extra something. ppl take it too easy with her and don't play her aggressive enough to keep up or carry with her.
.


Disagree. Range on ADC is the one thing you can't itemize and scales incredibly well for late game.

On March 20 2013 07:39 Dark_Chill wrote:
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On March 20 2013 07:01 AsnSensation wrote:
Ezreal is very weak currently yes, I think base atksp nerf hurt him the most before that he was in a good spot but to say he was never that strong is definitely wrong imo, during Pulsefire release when his W still reduced Attack speed he straight up raped lanes because they couldnt trade back


I'd actually like them to keep his bas the way it is now, but bring back his old W. Maybe lower some other stuff in the process. Thinking on it now, that ability was pretty unique, and it gave him a cool role on a team other than extremely safe adc.

Also, why aren't more people playing Nami? She has one of the best ults I've ever seen. A fight breaks out, drop the R, drop the Q. It's so strong. Her laning isn't bad either. I actually like it more than Sona, because with Sona I always feel really fragile and I get the feeling I could die at any time. With Nami, I feel like I have enough tools to keep alive in tough situations.



I've been playing her actually quite a lot in both our iquidpractice pre's and in random solo queues and have dominated every single bot lane. Her laning is actually quite good on account of the massive trades you can pull off with W and having tanky mastery/runes. I avoid E completely because I think it's a huge mana sink as her only main issue is mana considering her cd's are quite good.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
March 20 2013 05:02 GMT
#339
So I went from seeing Nunu almost every game and now no one uses him. Was his nerf really so bad that he is not worth picking anymore?
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
March 20 2013 05:05 GMT
#340
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