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[Patch 3.04: Zac] General Discussion - Page 16

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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
March 20 2013 01:46 GMT
#301
Yeah with the hp nerfs if you run and punch someone you take waaaay more damage nowadays. Less HP and lower mana shield passive means if they successfully kite you it actually hurts. But then thats kinda the way it should be, he was OP before.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 20 2013 02:07 GMT
#302
On March 20 2013 10:45 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if Riot will one day nerf TF...

to think he used to be able to ult from the fountain... man that was lame.

not to mention the legendary beta tf
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
March 20 2013 02:15 GMT
#303
So Chaox apparently is on hiatus and WildTurtle is now the ADC for TSM.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 20 2013 02:23 GMT
#304
Let's see how WildTurtle meshes with Xpecial, hes a solid AD from what I've seen
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 02:27:02
March 20 2013 02:25 GMT
#305
On March 20 2013 11:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 10:45 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if Riot will one day nerf TF...

to think he used to be able to ult from the fountain... man that was lame.

not to mention the legendary beta tf

The best part is that I don't think people even played beta TF the right way.

Everyone maxed WC>PAC>Gate, when thinking back, getting that time off Gate CD is definitely stronger than PAC ranks, and probably stronger than even Wild Card ranks (blue buff TF with rank 5 Gate would have Gate up every creep wave).
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 20 2013 02:26 GMT
#306
On March 20 2013 11:23 MooMooMugi wrote:
Let's see how WildTurtle meshes with Xpecial, hes a solid AD from what I've seen


He did really well at MLG. Pretty much stomped on maplestreet. ;;
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 20 2013 02:27 GMT
#307
On March 20 2013 11:25 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 11:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
On March 20 2013 10:45 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if Riot will one day nerf TF...

to think he used to be able to ult from the fountain... man that was lame.

not to mention the legendary beta tf

The best part is that I don't think people even played beta TF the right way.

Everyone maxed WC>PAC>Gate, when thinking back, getting that 20 seconds off Gate CD is definitely stronger than PAC ranks, and probably stronger than even Wild Card ranks (blue buff TF with rank 5 Gate would have Gate up every creep wave).


When you have AoE stun Gold Cards, there is no playing beta TF wrong.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 20 2013 02:28 GMT
#308
The ult being a global ~95% slow was definitely balanced in my opinion, no idea why they changed that
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 20 2013 02:33 GMT
#309
wheres fucking tristana nerf .....
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 02:50:43
March 20 2013 02:37 GMT
#310
Huge fan of WildTurtle; hopefully he makes the most out of this switch.
On March 20 2013 11:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
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On March 20 2013 11:33 kongoline wrote:
wheres fucking tristana nerf .....

They just buffed her, gonna take a little longer then that.

Considering Riot's history of nerfing things and buffing things, I wouldn't be surprised (if they nerfed her this patch cycle).
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 20 2013 02:40 GMT
#311
On March 20 2013 11:33 kongoline wrote:
wheres fucking tristana nerf .....

They just buffed her, gonna take a little longer then that.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 20 2013 02:50 GMT
#312
On March 20 2013 11:37 wei2coolman wrote:
Considering Riot's history of nerfing things and buffing things, I wouldn't be surprised.

Yeah don't you know, Riot only nerfs things when the community is on the cusp of figuring out how to counter them, and then nerfs them several times in succession.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 20 2013 02:50 GMT
#313
On March 20 2013 11:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 11:33 kongoline wrote:
wheres fucking tristana nerf .....

They just buffed her, gonna take a little longer then that.

She's been OP for so long in my opinion but I suck with most of the other ADs so I don't know.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 20 2013 03:03 GMT
#314
On March 20 2013 11:27 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 11:25 TheYango wrote:
On March 20 2013 11:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
On March 20 2013 10:45 Sufficiency wrote:
I wonder if Riot will one day nerf TF...

to think he used to be able to ult from the fountain... man that was lame.

not to mention the legendary beta tf

The best part is that I don't think people even played beta TF the right way.

Everyone maxed WC>PAC>Gate, when thinking back, getting that 20 seconds off Gate CD is definitely stronger than PAC ranks, and probably stronger than even Wild Card ranks (blue buff TF with rank 5 Gate would have Gate up every creep wave).


When you have AoE stun Gold Cards, there is no playing beta TF wrong.

Wild cards had a 1 : 1 ratio too i think.
pretty good
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 20 2013 03:09 GMT
#315
Kory! ‏@Ququroon 1h
Guys. GUYS. Karma is up on PBE!! Try her out! Let us know what you think! http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3241703 … AT LAST. IT IS TIME.


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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
March 20 2013 03:18 GMT
#316
Curse vs. CLG+sayocean(?) subbing for aphro scrim
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 20 2013 03:24 GMT
#317
The new Karma's numbers seem awful. 45 seconds CD on ult? Seriously?! Also her mantra'ed abilities are very underwhelming.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 20 2013 03:26 GMT
#318
On March 20 2013 12:24 Sufficiency wrote:
The new Karma's numbers seem awful. 45 seconds CD on ult? Seriously?! Also her mantra'ed abilities are very underwhelming.


I need to PBE that to see if I should become a scumbag skin owner.
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 03:31:35
March 20 2013 03:28 GMT
#319
On March 20 2013 12:24 Sufficiency wrote:
The new Karma's numbers seem awful. 45 seconds CD on ult? Seriously?! Also her mantra'ed abilities are very underwhelming.

Her passive is made to reduce the Mantra cd, and according to the AMA you trigger it for everytime an opponent (at least, maybe an ally too) is hit by one of your abilities. So with max CDR, you have a 27s cd Mantra that can be reduced by 2s for every enemy hit by your enhanced Q... then once again by every one hit by the trailing explosion. So -4 x 6 for every minion wave you'd manage to hit entirely, and boom you get a Mantra every wave.

The Zac release skin is either incomplete or just a recolor with a different recall animation... well, I guess there's only so much you can do with a blob. :/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
March 20 2013 03:29 GMT
#320
On March 20 2013 12:24 Sufficiency wrote:
The new Karma's numbers seem awful. 45 seconds CD on ult? Seriously?! Also her mantra'ed abilities are very underwhelming.

Spells reduce it by a second, autos by .5 second. Relax.
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