EPTI could get behind that. Yeah 5 man blind pick normal troll games are some of the most fun times I've had playing LoL.
[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 141
| Forum Index > LoL General |
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
I could get behind that. Yeah 5 man blind pick normal troll games are some of the most fun times I've had playing LoL. | ||
|
Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
I'd honestly even be fine with Riot just coming out and staring that pick order takes priority over calling roles in draft modes, and use it as one of those loading screen tips. | ||
|
cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
If someone says, "Mid or feed", and doesn't get mid, then doesn't feed, they should still be reported for the terrorist-esque threat they made. We already have a rule: Pick order >all. All we need is a simple button (that is already implemented in the client for after games) ported into the champ select screen. Plus, then you can play the game with said troll totally stress free because you've already had the catharsis of reporting him/her for the ridiculous behavior. | ||
|
JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On March 14 2013 05:41 Seuss wrote: Replace Amumu with Diana. That also gives you a fairly rounded team. Darius Top, Naut Jungle, Diana Mid, Thresh AD + Blitz Support. First off: That strategy is awesome. Second off: Some of my greatest games have also been when the team decided to go all in on a dumb strat. Some guy convinced us to only play girl champs. It was fun to do random stuff like that in normals but I think it'd be cooler to see it in ranked vs. A team where all the characters only start with D or they all choose any other random shit. I want to know who is the rank 1 trololoque player. huehuehueque works too. The e-fame you could get for Riot's all star break show where they get the top10 trololoque/huehuehueque players and have a showmatch would be badassss. It could be easy if you were dedicated to it. Not like you need to move into a team house for some efame, just be the King of the Trolls hahaha. Third off: I got distracted by how awesome trololoque/huehuehueque would be I forgot my last thing  | ||
|
Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On March 14 2013 05:55 cLutZ wrote: Why is everyone trying to discuss implementing a complex (don't kid yourself, it absolutely needs to be complex to work) system, when being able to report during champion select is the simpler and easier option? If someone says, "Mid or feed", and doesn't get mid, then doesn't feed, they should still be reported for the terrorist-esque threat they made. We already have a rule: Pick order >all. All we need is a simple button (that is already implemented in the client for after games) ported into the champ select screen. Plus, then you can play the game with said troll totally stress free because you've already had the catharsis of reporting him/her for the ridiculous behavior. Because it's really not about the trolls. it's about reducing conflict in matchmaking to reduce the odds of two teammates wanting the same role. Even if the lower-pick guy is completely polite and accepts to play his least-favorite role, it doesn't really change the fact that HIS enjoyment is diminished. | ||
|
Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
It beats being regulated to a role that I don't wish to play because two children are arguing over a solo lane and throw the game as a result. Pick issues tend to only happen in low level games and normals where people don't give a fuck. So just regulate a meta queue for low level games that have shitty or nonexistant meta anyway. We're talking Darius is op tier where he's banned all the time and people think you're trolling when you do Taric jungle. | ||
|
Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 14 2013 05:38 Juicyfruit wrote: I very much agree with you, but in the end the player's enjoyment of the game should take precedence, and in this case, letting players have more control over what they want to play without being a detriment to others is great. Moreover, if I want to get better at AP mid, the most efficient way is probably to play 10 AP mid games in a row so that the to let your skills and instincts with that role cement properly. There's always the counter-argument that ranked play should be primarily about competition and skill growth rather than enjoyment. There's always been the idea that normals = fun, ranked = srsbsn. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 14 2013 06:14 Juicyfruit wrote: Because it's really not about the trolls. it's about reducing conflict in matchmaking to reduce the odds of two teammates wanting the same role. Even if the lower-pick guy is completely polite and accepts to play his least-favorite role, it doesn't really change the fact that HIS enjoyment is diminished. I think the whole idea of role favoritism only exists because of how the community more or less has gotten into that mindset though. Nobody would worry about "favorite" or "least favorite" role if it wasn't the community forcing it onto itself. I didn't even so much as think about which role I enjoyed most or least in beta/S1. It was only the increasing role rigidity that the community enforced on itself that made me get into the "jungle only" mindset that I played through late S1/S2 in the first place. Believe it or not there was once a time where people didn't worry about this shit and just played the damn game. | ||
|
overt
United States9006 Posts
On March 14 2013 06:14 Juicyfruit wrote: Because it's really not about the trolls. it's about reducing conflict in matchmaking to reduce the odds of two teammates wanting the same role. Even if the lower-pick guy is completely polite and accepts to play his least-favorite role, it doesn't really change the fact that HIS enjoyment is diminished. Also, Riot just coming out and saying that pick order > call order is the way it's going to be doesn't fix two glaring problems. It won't improve blind pick at all. It doesn't help someone who only wants to play one role. Riot has an invested interest in making their customer's happy. They shouldn't bend over backwards to make sure everyone is always getting what role they want in league but I don't think it's unrealistic to expect them to do something to ensure their players are having the best time possible. Even if they don't use some sort of "pick your role(s) before hand" system they aren't going to be able to just ban people and declare pick order > call order and have every problem fixed. On March 14 2013 06:20 Ryuu314 wrote: There's always the counter-argument that ranked play should be primarily about competition and skill growth rather than enjoyment. There's always been the idea that normals = fun, ranked = srsbsn. Honestly it's quite possible that the best solution would be to have an entirely separate queue for role specialization. Although I'd argue that having some sort of way to identify which roles people are most comfortable in champion select, and have match making balance the teams appropriately, would be the best for "competitive" solo queue play as well. | ||
|
Navi
5286 Posts
| ||
|
Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
On March 14 2013 06:21 TheYango wrote: I think the whole idea of role favoritism only exists because of how the community more or less has gotten into that mindset though. Nobody would worry about "favorite" or "least favorite" role if it wasn't the community forcing it onto itself. I didn't even so much as think about which role I enjoyed most or least in beta/S1. It was only the increasing role rigidity that the community enforced on itself that made me get into the "jungle only" mindset that I played through late S1/S2 in the first place. Chess analogy: Low-Mid tier players aren't aware of the rules, or have a poor understanding of their application. Mid-High tier players are aware of the rules and stick to them. Master tier players are aware of when to break the rules. There's little hope for Mid tier and below to invent new metagame. I see nothing wrong with enforcing a meta via queue since these people aren't innovating or understanding of the rules anyway. In fact, I think forced meta may slap some understanding into a few players and give them the epiphanies needed to motivate their way up. Once you get to high/master tier players I don't see issues of role calling. People are varied and diverse. Unless they're primary support players. Some nasty fights at top tier when two support mains fight over who can be the best team player, but that's just silly stuff anyway. Just enable meta queuing on normals or something. That way we can spam practice games at the role we wish more reliably. | ||
|
MCMilo
United States365 Posts
| ||
|
JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On March 14 2013 06:25 Navi wrote: Pls taric my garen yango. If you know what i mean. That sort of PDA is truly outrageous. Get a room. | ||
|
General Tso
22 Posts
On March 14 2013 03:45 General Tso wrote: Hi guys Can anyone think of a relatively recent pro game that has an example of an interesting or good item build for one player? I am particularly interested in item timings. So if someone focused on their champ's power level in such a way that they peaked at a specific timing in regards to items, that would be a good example of what I'm looking for. Ideally it would be a burst champion (ad caster or ap caster), but I would also be interested in dps or tank builds/timings. Any links to vods are greatly appreciated. Maybe a better way for me to ask this is: Does any know of an LCS game where a team made a comeback? That might lead me to find the sort of item timing i'm looking for within the game. | ||
|
Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On March 14 2013 06:41 General Tso wrote: Maybe a better way for me to ask this is: Does any know of an LCS game where a team made a comeback? That might lead me to find the sort of item timing i'm looking for within the game. Super week TSM vs Vul. | ||
|
RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On the flip side, every episode makes me like Xpecial, oddone, and Dyrus more. And I think a big reason TSM came back is because Kog maw is incomparably stronger late game than Ezreal. Especially with what Zuna built. | ||
|
Navi
5286 Posts
On March 14 2013 06:29 Milestone wrote: Pls gaby my baby navi. If you know what i mean. | ||
|
General Tso
22 Posts
Thank you sir Yeah, comebacks happen for many other reasons than item choices, but its a start for my purposes. | ||
|
Slusher
United States19143 Posts
mabye they could just add a rock paper scissors button in champ select you click it next to their portrait lol, some people would still be dicks about it for sure ("2 out of 3, okok 3 out of 5") but anything to me is better than having to camp the chat bar after accepting the match and busting out that 400apm mid call. | ||
|
Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 14 2013 05:38 onlywonderboy wrote: You can do that in normals with friends. Currently on the table to be played next is Team Hook City with Blitz, Thresh, Naut, Darius, and Amumu. Amumu is kind of a cheat BUT HE'S CLOSE. Replace with Urgot obv. | ||
| ||
