EPT[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 136
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Juicyfruit
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
It sets you behind for your first big item, but laning on sona without dorans is horrible, and chalice is so awesome on her. She runs oom so fast. Also the way her skills work you pick up every assist in teamfights and often kills, too, so you are not too starved. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13859 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On March 14 2013 00:36 Sermokala wrote: I'm not entirely sure what a chalice is going to do for a sona in a lane against leona. Shes just gona trade a powercord for a zenith blade. Don't use the power chord on leona. You can Q from pretty safely out of range of leona, and zone with that alone. It'll take longer, but eventually either the ADC or leona will get low enough that you can use the power chord, get caught, and still win. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
Anyone else happy that they're finally looking into a way to solve the pick order v calling roles argument? I'm curious as to what they'll come up with. I like the notion of picking which roles you want to play before the game, but that won't stop trolls from marking support then calling mid anyways. Also looking forward to "goodies" for players that honor players showing good behavior. I feel like everyone's forgotten about honor and nobody really cares to give it anymore, at least nowhere near as much as when it came out. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 14 2013 01:25 Juicyfruit wrote: If they actually display what role you queued up as then it's going to be very hard for trolls to get away with queuing up one role and calling another, since it'll be abundantly clear and they could get banned quite fast. that'd be a terrible idea imo; would force stagnate meta. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
Then again, personally I think ranked is a place to practice within the current meta, and normals/customs are for trying out crazy strats and whatnot unless your team(in ranked) agrees to trying something new. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On March 14 2013 01:27 wei2coolman wrote: that'd be a terrible idea imo; would force stagnate meta. They already label pros by their role in LCS, even when laneswaps are so common. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13859 Posts
On March 14 2013 00:47 Amui wrote: Don't use the power chord on leona. You can Q from pretty safely out of range of leona, and zone with that alone. It'll take longer, but eventually either the ADC or leona will get low enough that you can use the power chord, get caught, and still win. your q isn't going to be doing that much damage on its own, its going to take power cords to do any real damage to people without running wildly low on mana and space. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On March 14 2013 01:38 Sermokala wrote: your q isn't going to be doing that much damage on its own, its going to take power cords to do any real damage to people without running wildly low on mana and space. You can still powerchord the ADC or leona if zenith blade is down/you have a very large wave/enemy AD out of position to punish even if you get caught. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On March 14 2013 01:27 wei2coolman wrote: that'd be a terrible idea imo; would force stagnate meta. I don't necessarily agree with the idea altogether, but if you're going to have people queue up based on roles, you might as well show what role they queued up as so people can't lie. Not to mention once you get to the champion selection screen if you want to do some fancy anti-meta shit based on enemy picks it's still possible to do so. And let's be fair it's not like there's a whole lot of innovation going on in soloQ anyways. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On March 14 2013 01:47 Parnage wrote: SoloQ innovates, you know.. if it can get them to break the game.. see Ap trynd. I mean innovation in terms of having lane setups, not builds or champ select. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13859 Posts
On March 14 2013 01:42 Amui wrote: You can still powerchord the ADC or leona if zenith blade is down/you have a very large wave/enemy AD out of position to punish even if you get caught. your power cord is 550 range and zenith blade is 700. Its still a wickedly disadvantaged game of russian roulete where if you win you get a little damage on the adc and if you lose you die. a chalice isn't going to change this game its just going to give you more turns to pull the trigger. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On March 14 2013 01:50 Sermokala wrote: your power cord is 550 range and zenith blade is 700. Its still a wickedly disadvantaged game of russian roulete where if you win you get a little damage on the adc and if you lose you die. a chalice isn't going to change this game its just going to give you more turns to pull the trigger. Then don't powerchord. Having chalice gives you more mana regen to Q and W, and as long as you maintain brush control on your side with vision wards you're going to alright. Even as I say this, Leona's a relatively bad matchup for Sona, because while Sona can survive the lane, Leona exerts more pressure and neuters a lot of Sona's power, while scaling much better into late-game. Then again I don't see why anyone would pick first-pick Sona if they have their choice of support (imo Nami is straight up better and Alistar is also a safe pick if you want sustain + teamfight) but at the very least you wouldn't purposely pick Sona into a Leona lane. | ||
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