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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 13 2013 12:23 GMT
#2681
kinda interesting that people will play volibear before rammus, not sure why every team absolutely refuse to run him.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 13 2013 12:25 GMT
#2682
On March 13 2013 21:06 iCanada wrote:
Such bullshit...

I DC from game, my internet fine, riot servers just being grumpy and I get hit for a loss in ranked. Such crap. Lose ten minute from my game, sitting her my internet working fine but I couldn't connect to riot servers.

I want my 16 points back mang. Its pretty cool how skype can work, but the Riot servers just frizz out.


Yesterday I could connect but 5/10k ms.At the same time I can watch 2 streams at hq without lag.League client even worse lately.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 12:31:13
March 13 2013 12:29 GMT
#2683
On March 13 2013 21:06 iCanada wrote:
Such bullshit...

I DC from game, my internet fine, riot servers just being grumpy and I get hit for a loss in ranked. Such crap. Lose ten minute from my game, sitting her my internet working fine but I couldn't connect to riot servers.

I want my 16 points back mang. Its pretty cool how skype can work, but the Riot servers just frizz out.


It's a lot more fun when you get that in a promotion series so not only do you lose the LP but you have to get back into it all over again. I've only had the servers crap on me in champ select though so I get the dodge, would probably just be a loss after the game starts (still shitty though).
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 13 2013 12:35 GMT
#2684
On March 13 2013 21:29 RuskiPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 21:06 iCanada wrote:
Such bullshit...

I DC from game, my internet fine, riot servers just being grumpy and I get hit for a loss in ranked. Such crap. Lose ten minute from my game, sitting her my internet working fine but I couldn't connect to riot servers.

I want my 16 points back mang. Its pretty cool how skype can work, but the Riot servers just frizz out.


It's a lot more fun when you get that in a promotion series so not only do you lose the LP but you have to get back into it all over again. I've only had the servers crap on me in champ select though so I get the dodge, would probably just be a loss after the game starts (still shitty though).


Yeah, I was four item Amumu at the 30 minute mark... so big.

Liandries-Abyssal-Rylais-SorcShoes-Armguard mummy really fucking scary, by the way. All the things die in ten seconds, you tanky as hell anyway...
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
March 13 2013 12:39 GMT
#2685
The Azingy build :D. I remember that people would shit on him for AP Mummy in season 2 (it went something like double dorans into abyssal since there weren't as many cheaper AP items like armguard then) but maxing bandage was pretty terror. If you landed it in like a level 5 gank it would do so much damage and level 6 was practically a free double kill on bot lane because Ult did so much damage with AP.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
March 13 2013 12:48 GMT
#2686
On March 13 2013 19:48 Lylat wrote:
When to pick Soraka as a support ? People used to say that she is bad because no gank potential (?) but as I watch pro stream I see more and more Soraka players in high ELO ranked games...

You can pick Soraka against every enemy support, but you'll occasionally have problems against killing lanes like with a Blitzcrank, Taric, Thresh or Leona support if they're played correctly.
About every other support is automatically getting outhealed, outsustained and outpoked. People underestimate Soraka's poking potential, which is safe and annoying at the same time. E+Banana, you'll always win the poke trades against any other ranged support with that.
While it is true that Soraka has nothing to add to a gank, except for silencing a opponent when he wants to flash, Soraka wins against opponents like Lulu, Zyra, Nami, Zilean, Sona, Karma, Lux, Nidalee, Janna.
The trick is not to play too passive, you basically have to use your E every 10 seconds, mostly by hurting opponents, occasionally you'll have a adc that uses a lot of mana like MF, then you'll have to use E a lot for giving them mana. Always tell your adc partners to use their mana for harassing the opponents.

Pick Soraka if you see enemy supports like i mentioned, but don't worry about first picking her. You can harass champions like leona, thresh and taric very effectively every time their adc partner is occupied or out of position. If he can't follow up the grab/stun by killing you or hurting you badly, you'll always win the trade by healing up quickly afterwards.

Due to the passive Soraka is strong against AP teams. She's also good against poke teams, as you can heal up the damage before the real battle happens.

Be aware of top, mid and jungle fights, you'll often see situations where you're ulti can totally change the outcome of a fight and possibly snowball a lane.

For items i reccommend going for both GP5 items early as well as the sight stone. The choice for big items is always depending on the situation you're having in the game, personally i prefer Locket of the Iron Solari, Aegis/Bulwark, Boots of Mobility.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
March 13 2013 12:49 GMT
#2687
The pen build was so good on amumu. Sorcs abyssal guise sunfire so stronk but so much money
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 13 2013 13:20 GMT
#2688
Can anyone explain me Karma rework? Will they change her skills?
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
March 13 2013 13:31 GMT
#2689
I like to pick Soraka against enemy teams with a lot of magic AOE.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 13 2013 13:53 GMT
#2690
On March 13 2013 22:20 Mensol wrote:
Can anyone explain me Karma rework? Will they change her skills?

Yes, although not known exactly how. Guinsoo tweeted about some stuff he was working on but then apparently the whole thing got scrapped and then restarted by Scarizard.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 14:28:35
March 13 2013 14:27 GMT
#2691
On March 13 2013 22:31 Zizoz wrote:
I like to pick Soraka against enemy teams with a lot of magic AOE.

She and Sona are also nice picks against AP Nidalee. It's nice having an extra MR aura that keeps your AD carry from losing 70% his health from a single spear.

Thing is... if you're picking Soraka for the MR aura, you do have to stop and think about why you aren't picking Sona instead.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 13 2013 14:35 GMT
#2692
On March 13 2013 23:27 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 22:31 Zizoz wrote:
I like to pick Soraka against enemy teams with a lot of magic AOE.

She and Sona are also nice picks against AP Nidalee. It's nice having an extra MR aura that keeps your AD carry from losing 70% his health from a single spear.

Thing is... if you're picking Soraka for the MR aura, you do have to stop and think about why you aren't picking Sona instead.

Maybe because Sona dies instantly against any agressive lane !
The legend of Darien lives on
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 13 2013 14:37 GMT
#2693
Imo Soraka's boring as hell which is mostly the reason why she's not frequently picked, and if your AD carry is one of those that likes to be completely immersed in last-hitting unless there's a cc'd target for them to hit you'll usually not win your lane. Not to mention having a soraka as your support sometimes give the ADC the impression that they can just go ahead and eat free damage and deal nothing back.

I feel like her ability to act as a battery for anyone on your team is somewhat underexplored in competitive games. Junglers, and to a lesser extent mid, should be able to be a lot more liberal with their mana usage as long as you create space for her to come infuse you, and this should be translating into faster damage items for mid or faster jungle clear. Plus, she can help the team win a LOT of objectives mid-game if they group, since you can take objectives left and right without wearing down and her armor buff negates helps tower diving immensely
TLCastingGolems
Profile Joined December 2012
160 Posts
March 13 2013 14:37 GMT
#2694
On March 13 2013 21:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
kinda interesting that people will play volibear before rammus, not sure why every team absolutely refuse to run him.


I do love having volibear on my team, but last night I had a rammus on my team who was absolutely disgustingly good.

I'd have to say that both of them are horrendously underplayed. They make it so easy to snowball lanes with ganks.

Why do you think voli is so much worse than rammus? His execute and passive are awesome.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 13 2013 14:39 GMT
#2695
On March 13 2013 23:37 TLCastingGolems wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 21:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
kinda interesting that people will play volibear before rammus, not sure why every team absolutely refuse to run him.


I do love having volibear on my team, but last night I had a rammus on my team who was absolutely disgustingly good.

I'd have to say that both of them are horrendously underplayed. They make it so easy to snowball lanes with ganks.

Why do you think voli is so much worse than rammus? His execute and passive are awesome.


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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
March 13 2013 14:41 GMT
#2696
On March 13 2013 23:35 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 23:27 sylverfyre wrote:
On March 13 2013 22:31 Zizoz wrote:
I like to pick Soraka against enemy teams with a lot of magic AOE.

She and Sona are also nice picks against AP Nidalee. It's nice having an extra MR aura that keeps your AD carry from losing 70% his health from a single spear.

Thing is... if you're picking Soraka for the MR aura, you do have to stop and think about why you aren't picking Sona instead.

Maybe because Sona dies instantly against any agressive lane !

Only when I'm playing her
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
March 13 2013 14:43 GMT
#2697
On March 13 2013 23:35 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 23:27 sylverfyre wrote:
On March 13 2013 22:31 Zizoz wrote:
I like to pick Soraka against enemy teams with a lot of magic AOE.

She and Sona are also nice picks against AP Nidalee. It's nice having an extra MR aura that keeps your AD carry from losing 70% his health from a single spear.

Thing is... if you're picking Soraka for the MR aura, you do have to stop and think about why you aren't picking Sona instead.

Maybe because Sona dies instantly against any agressive lane !


Not necessarily. If you run HP seals/Quints and maybe armor reds with 9 in Defense (or 21 if you are really scared but I still think 21 utility is better at that point) you can actually be fairly tanky with perhaps the pickup of a Dorans shield or so. If you can position your Q harass correctly you will actually shut down any aggressive lane with poke because they will be a lot more cautious of all-inning when they are ~half hp and the Sona they want to all in on has the same health as a Taric.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 14:52:16
March 13 2013 14:49 GMT
#2698
On March 13 2013 19:46 Shotcoder wrote:
Corki is actually really strong mid against some AP mids like Eve and akali.

Yeah there a was a period where Froggen would run Corki any time their opponenets picked Ori.
On March 13 2013 21:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
kinda interesting that people will play volibear before rammus, not sure why every team absolutely refuse to run him.

That's easy, no one has run Rammus successfully in the LCS, unlike Voli. Public perception is Rammus has been bad for a while, a lot of people need to be shown he's not trash because they aren't going to randomly try him if they still think he's bad.
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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 13 2013 14:54 GMT
#2699
On March 13 2013 23:43 RuskiPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 23:35 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 13 2013 23:27 sylverfyre wrote:
On March 13 2013 22:31 Zizoz wrote:
I like to pick Soraka against enemy teams with a lot of magic AOE.

She and Sona are also nice picks against AP Nidalee. It's nice having an extra MR aura that keeps your AD carry from losing 70% his health from a single spear.

Thing is... if you're picking Soraka for the MR aura, you do have to stop and think about why you aren't picking Sona instead.

Maybe because Sona dies instantly against any agressive lane !


Not necessarily. If you run HP seals/Quints and maybe armor reds with 9 in Defense (or 21 if you are really scared but I still think 21 utility is better at that point) you can actually be fairly tanky with perhaps the pickup of a Dorans shield or so. If you can position your Q harass correctly you will actually shut down any aggressive lane with poke because they will be a lot more cautious of all-inning when they are ~half hp and the Sona they want to all in on has the same health as a Taric.


On sona I tend to go Philo>Doran's Shield>Sightstone just so you're tankier. I't what a lot of EU players I've been watching do on a lot of supports. well they were doing it, Krepo has kinda moved away from it rushing Aegis before anything sometimes and sightstone before philo almost always.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
March 13 2013 15:02 GMT
#2700
On March 13 2013 23:54 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 23:43 RuskiPanda wrote:
On March 13 2013 23:35 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 13 2013 23:27 sylverfyre wrote:
On March 13 2013 22:31 Zizoz wrote:
I like to pick Soraka against enemy teams with a lot of magic AOE.

She and Sona are also nice picks against AP Nidalee. It's nice having an extra MR aura that keeps your AD carry from losing 70% his health from a single spear.

Thing is... if you're picking Soraka for the MR aura, you do have to stop and think about why you aren't picking Sona instead.

Maybe because Sona dies instantly against any agressive lane !


Not necessarily. If you run HP seals/Quints and maybe armor reds with 9 in Defense (or 21 if you are really scared but I still think 21 utility is better at that point) you can actually be fairly tanky with perhaps the pickup of a Dorans shield or so. If you can position your Q harass correctly you will actually shut down any aggressive lane with poke because they will be a lot more cautious of all-inning when they are ~half hp and the Sona they want to all in on has the same health as a Taric.


On sona I tend to go Philo>Doran's Shield>Sightstone just so you're tankier. I't what a lot of EU players I've been watching do on a lot of supports. well they were doing it, Krepo has kinda moved away from it rushing Aegis before anything sometimes and sightstone before philo almost always.

I tend to buy the Doran's shield before the Philo Stone - it's those early levels that are so vulnerable. I want to be in good shape to crush when Sona hits some really strong points at levels 5-6-7 and not have died to an all-in before then.
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