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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On March 12 2013 15:27 NeoIllusions wrote: I don't think Runes or Rune Pages are ever worth complaining about. It's part of Riot's business strategy and it makes sense. Why complain? cuz they crunch new players super hard with it. It's no problem for me, cuz I've been playing 1963, but them giving new players 2 is just lol. such a beating. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 12 2013 16:26 cLutZ wrote: No, the learning curve is better because Riot has a newbie-friendly matchmaking system + they guard vigilantly against "antifun" mechanics. If LoL send in fresh LVL 1 players into the 1200 ELO queue like DoTA used to do basically, they would have a worse time. No flash, no runes, no masteries, only free week champs. This. EDIT: Actually now that I think about it, runes/masteries fit into the framework of the startling number of mechanics in League that appear designed to appeal to (former) WoW players (ability power analogous to spellpower, regen expressed as "per 5", etc.). | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
Instead of "every level you get a new rune slot that you can place a rune you buy into" which is pretty straightforward (you buy a rune, place it into the slot, bam), they make this silly system with tiers and you can only buy said higher tiers at certain intervals. Like, what's the point? Having 1 slot open up each level ALREADY creates a curve where your "power" goes up as you level up and thus gain slots. Why do you have this silly tier system too for no reason? The only people who really buy lower tier runes are new players who have no clue or people on smurfs who want tier 1 armor runes to jungle. But if you only had tier 3 then bam, tier 3 runes bought once and you're done. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On March 12 2013 16:44 BlackPaladin wrote: Like, what's the point? Its just a nice marketingtool for riot. Its a noobtrap IP/RP sink, thats all. All the 'smart' players wait till lvl20 anyway. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On March 12 2013 16:51 ihasaKAROT wrote: Its just a nice marketingtool for riot. Its a noobtrap IP/RP sink, thats all. All the 'smart' players wait till lvl20 anyway. Which is exactly what i said in an earlier post. It's just a dick move to new players. It reminds me of free to play games on the iphone and such where they give you 1 game dollar and then go "now use the game dollar to finish that and complete the quest!" then down the line you're 1 game dollar short of something you actually really want in the game. I hear nothing but maniacal laughter from the game designers...Every. Single. Time. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
I have a sense that I have just paid 40USD for the HOTS single campaign... | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On March 12 2013 17:12 ihasaKAROT wrote: Well yeah thats how life works... You also dont need any candy or crisps, but you still buy them. Mean mean grocerystores... That's an awful analogy. Nobody tells a person they can only buy candy until certain requirements have been met. 'Fresh produce only available to shoppers who have purchased 100 items at this store. Buying different levels of VIP cards can reduce that number to X items!." It's not about want vs need, it's about forced availability and the use of a premium currency. | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
Edit: To clarify, I don't understand why people have a problem with Riot trying to make money. They aren't a charital organisation afterall. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On March 12 2013 20:02 ihasaKAROT wrote: Cu in a week then I guess Caphe. Maybe even back for LCS Lol, I will be watching LCS thats for sure. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On March 12 2013 20:36 red_ wrote: That's an awful analogy. Nobody tells a person they can only buy candy until certain requirements have been met. 'Fresh produce only available to shoppers who have purchased 100 items at this store. Buying different levels of VIP cards can reduce that number to X items!." It's not about want vs need, it's about forced availability and the use of a premium currency. I don't know about you, but I always had to finish dinner before getting dessert. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On March 12 2013 21:41 JonGalt wrote: I don't know about you, but I always had to finish dinner before getting dessert. If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35130 Posts
On March 12 2013 21:41 JonGalt wrote: I don't know about you, but I always had to finish dinner before getting dessert. For me, I couldn't have a drink until I was half done. I'd always drink too much and not eat my meal. XD | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On March 12 2013 16:02 wei2coolman wrote: On another note; Even Dyrus jumping on HotS bandwagon; rather than playing LoL, he's playing hots campaign. The best part about this is he's currently the HotS streamer with the most viewers. inb4 someone blames LoL for killing SC2. | ||
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Lounge
537 Posts
It also prevents a lot of smurf abuse because of how much time you have to actually sink in order to have a reasonable amount of stuff on multiple accounts. I mean, if you got everything instantly then what does banning wouldn't actually accomplish anything, and everyone ALREADY loves to complain about how awful they perceive the community. | ||
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Broetchenholer
Germany1899 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On March 12 2013 17:10 BlackPaladin wrote: Which is exactly what i said in an earlier post. It's just a dick move to new players. It reminds me of free to play games on the iphone and such where they give you 1 game dollar and then go "now use the game dollar to finish that and complete the quest!" then down the line you're 1 game dollar short of something you actually really want in the game. I hear nothing but maniacal laughter from the game designers...Every. Single. Time. New players honestly don't care. Experienced players harp on about how you need runes for optimal play and everyone under level 30 are like "what? no one else in my games has runes" (If your experience differs, it's because you've gotten yourself onto smurf island, which is different) In fact, an insult that I've heard at low levels several times was "lolol you need runes to beat me? noob" | ||
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