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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 17 2013 16:21 JonGalt wrote: "@ChaoxLoL: INC almost complete overhaul of my champion pool. HOY" W00T!! Chaox gonna step up his game and adapt/learn. Watch out world. TSM is comin' for you! What, he's going to learn how to play Kog now? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On February 17 2013 16:39 wei2coolman wrote: What, he's going to learn how to play Kog now? Well, Kog, Vayne, and Ashe are all getting that AS buff. I remember Chaox playing Kog and Ashe a lot in S2. Then Quinn is going to be coming out soon, so there's quite a few big things happening soon in the ADC world. | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On February 17 2013 16:47 Louuster wrote: As long as this means he stops playing Ezreal, should be good for him. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Also anyone thinks it's pretty ironic that it's Scarra who's the only one who keeps playing Gragas after the nerfs and even earning repect bans with him? xD | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On February 17 2013 11:38 necrosed wrote: I'm so fucking happy right now. Since Absolute Legends is nill, there is one IEM spot left for the Americas in CeBIT. ESL organized a BO3 between the two american teams with most points in IEM Season VII - paiN Gaming and Insight e-Sports. We've just stomped Insight 2-0 and qualified paiN Gaming for CeBIT! Coach necrosed will be there :DDDD Congrats!!! | ||
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c.Deadly
United States545 Posts
On February 17 2013 17:18 Slusher wrote: Serious question, am I the only person who goes Distortion over home guard with TP? alex ich took distortion a few times | ||
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
On February 17 2013 17:18 Slusher wrote: Serious question, am I the only person who goes Distortion over home guard with TP? No man, distortion with flash/ghost and TP is the shit, take advantage whilst you're in the know! | ||
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Purge
Canada372 Posts
Well, Kog, Vayne, and Ashe are all getting that AS buff. I remember Chaox playing Kog and Ashe a lot in S2. Then Quinn is going to be coming out soon, so there's quite a few big things happening soon in the ADC world. Its Trist, not Kog. On a side note they (Trist/Vayne/Ashe) now have the highest att speed per lvl in the game. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
 On February 17 2013 17:18 Slusher wrote: Serious question, am I the only person who goes Distortion over home guard with TP? Nope. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On February 17 2013 15:20 obesechicken13 wrote:I have no idea where this 36 true damage is coming from. The 36 DPS was from 1.86 average attacks per second with 5 ranks of silver bolts procing every 3 attacks. 60/3 x 1.8 = 36 true damage per second from the non-HP portion of silver bolts I have no idea what your items are or what your runes are so I just have to take your words on all the items Items are whatever the guy i was quoting's items, masteries are his masteries. I used 330 base damage for the IE build because that is the damage he listed for that build and subtracted 40 from that to get the base damage for the BotRK build. This is because 70-30 = 40. You said 522 was the base physical damage of this build ignoring hp effects You just ignored Vayne's silver bolts for the IE build. No, i used the difference in % HP true DPS, 3.8% for the IE build 4.8% for the BotRK build = net 1% for the BotRK build. Since these are normalized to seconds we can do this without loss of generality if we are worried about differences in DPS. Vayne's ult is not taken into account. It was not. I am lazy. Note that vaynes ult in all ways disadvantages the BotRK build as shown (which was BotRK, BT, LW, Hurricane as per the guy i was quoting's itemization) since adding damage stat increases damage on the crit build by 140.525 whereas it increases damage on the non-crit build by 102. The extra 40 DPS has to be made up, increasing the no armor break point by 400 HP. I personally have not changed my conclusion. Crit builds still do more single target damage. Runaan's still causes any build to have more potential damage if you are attacking 2/3 targets. The first part is kind of true. IE/PD/LW/BotRK can do more damage than IE/PD/LW/BT since the attack speed has multiplicative scaling just like damage does. E.G. Lets use the previous IE/BT/LW/PD 330 damage itemization and change the BT for a BotRK. We now have 260 damage but 1.7232 attack speed. Which gives us 782 raw DPS. We note that we steal 8.6% HP(5%, 1.72 times per second) per second which means that in order to bridge the gap we need the enemy to have only 1182 HP or more(not including the slight true damage advantage to the AS build, also not including reduced damage from tumble/condemn). This number is probably still a bit higher than you want, but it should be close enough to consider the BotRK. note that when ulting the value drops to 891 HP The second part is problematic: If you are able to attack 2/3 targets then they are able to attack you. If 2/3 targets are attacking you, the ADC, then you're probably done for at which point you're attacking zero targets, because you're dead. Edit: For some reason i was using 50% instead of 55% crit. This slightly disadvantages the crit builds in the above numbers (which means generally higher breakeven) | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
But 2 top and 3 bot? Come on. EVERYONE knows it is 4 top/mid and 1 bot. Silly Riot with no knowledge of the meta. Edit: Also, just out of curiosity - is there another website where there is LoL community? The only ones I can think of are Reddit and Riot forums. Solomid forums to a smaller extent. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On February 17 2013 19:34 JonGalt wrote: Just watched the Dominion trailer. Really cool! But 2 top and 3 bot? Come on. EVERYONE knows it is 4 top/mid and 1 bot. Silly Riot with no knowledge of the meta. Edit: Also, just out of curiosity - is there another website where there is LoL community? The only ones I can think of are Reddit and Riot forums. Solomid forums to a smaller extent. Actually 2 bot 3 top is a really strong way to take back top lane if you put the correct timing and pressure on it. There's a point in every dominion game where it's highly likely to have 2-3 bot on each side. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On February 17 2013 21:23 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Actually 2 bot 3 top is a really strong way to take back top lane if you put the correct timing and pressure on it. There's a point in every dominion game where it's highly likely to have 2-3 bot on each side. Yeah, but in the beginning, don't you usually send 3 top, 1 to your closest top tower, and 1 bot? I haven't played in forever, but that's how it always seemed to go. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On February 17 2013 16:21 JonGalt wrote: "@ChaoxLoL: INC almost complete overhaul of my champion pool. HOY" W00T!! Chaox gonna step up his game and adapt/learn. Watch out world. TSM is comin' for you! So now he's taking points from Dyrus. How to get fans on your side 101: Say you doing overhaul of your champion pool after you disappoint them. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On February 17 2013 21:31 JonGalt wrote: Yeah, but in the beginning, don't you usually send 3 top, 1 to your closest top tower, and 1 bot? I haven't played in forever, but that's how it always seemed to go. Secret sick strat works every time: send 4-1 in the beginning but the on that caps mid goes bot after the speed shrine, the 3 top stall. Guaranteed to kill botlaner + take bot cap before they get top. Then rotate top when they go PANIC and take that, bot defends cap normally. Start every game with a ~100 point lead. gg. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
edit : was 0-2, now 2-2 -.- | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 17 2013 23:36 Dandel Ion wrote: Secret sick strat works every time: send 4-1 in the beginning but the on that caps mid goes bot after the speed shrine, the 3 top stall. Guaranteed to kill botlaner + take bot cap before they get top. Then rotate top when they go PANIC and take that, bot defends cap normally. Start every game with a ~100 point lead. gg. Until your 3 top dies, and your tower-dive attempt at bottom fails, getting u aced at 2 mins. At least, that's how all my 5-man Co-op vs AI games goes. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On February 17 2013 23:57 Inflicted_ wrote: Until your 3 top dies, and your tower-dive attempt at bottom fails, getting u aced at 2 mins. At least, that's how all my 5-man Co-op vs AI games goes. Ahhh, there is always two sides to every coin. Completely off topic, but I have to share: SO. Interesting soccer game today. We were winning 4-2. The WHOLE game the referee had been calling fouls and offsides on us when it was clearly not. Even the referee on the sideline would be like "There is no foul/That wasn't out of bounds/That wasn't offsides. (In Sesotho of course but I am translating)" Then time ran out. However. The ref decided that the game wasn't over. Then he proceeded to give the other team a penalty kick (again the sideline referee told him there was no foul). So now they are down 4-3 and the game is 10 minutes past over. So they keep playing and on a ball that is clearly offsides (where the sideline ref indicates it is offsides), they score. The referee counts it. Then our captain rips the referee's shirt as he tries to hit him. Then a brawl between our village and their team breaks out. I was subbed out and headed for the ref. I proceeded to berate and yell at him and tell him I will pay him double what the other team is. I haven't been this upset in a long time. My only regret is that I wasn't on the field to hit the ref. Anyway. Had to share. | ||
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