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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 17 2013 19:54 GMT
#1001
On February 18 2013 04:44 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 04:33 freestalker wrote:
I need an advice.

I play support, and am wondering how to consistently help the team win. When there was no league system, I was oscilating between silver and gold, but I feel like the people lack some common sense and even if winning throw the game in the end because they get overconfident and fight 4v5, etc.. Anyway. This is not the point. The question is, what is a good support to play at this relatively low elo, that will allow me to consistently carry my team even if they suck (I kinda expect the answer is go play jungler/mid).

Normally, I play whatever seems the most reasonable choice depending on enemy pick, or I pick taric/leona on blue side for double golems + lvl 2 kill, then try to snowball from there. But it seems to me that even if we manage to win the bot lane, it's not necessarily leading to win of the whole game. And even if we win bot lane more than lose, I lose games more than win.. So I was wondering, if going some non-optimal support, which is however good at being agressive and really annoying and even has potential of carrying, because people at this league just suck playing against them, would be a good idea. Supports such as lux or nidalee (people just love 'em javelins). Or generally, maybe playing those 'poke' supports more would work, such as Sona/Zyra/Lulu. As often even if I initiate the fight well with melee support, our team is too scared or too far away they just don't do anything or can't use the situation. With poke champ I could just poke until enemy is low enough. Hm..

Ideas?

lulu's a super strong support imo. She is very good at minimizing mistakes of teammates and capitalizing on mis-positioning of enemies. Tbh, I'd rate lulu as among the best in terms of game impact.

edit: if you want to direct your team, then leona is probably a stronger option, because her initiation makes it painfully obvious to the rest of your team when and where to teamfight. As long as you have a good sense of telling what fights you can win, and which you can't, then leona is very good at carrying.

I'd also say thresh is a very potent support as well.


Lulu is a great get out of jail free/ teamfight champ, but she kind of lacks damage in the end.

Leona depends on the rest of your team also knowing if its a good fight. My experience in soloq is unless its painfully obvious you're ahead or even, oftentimes your team will not follow up and you'll just die 1v5 and get flamed.

I love Thresh, but no one knows how to use his lantern. No one.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 17 2013 19:54 GMT
#1002
best way to win low level games if you snowball bot is to kill the tower asap after ad finishes BT, then rotate mid and take mid tower, then do drag if it's still up

basically, if your team sucks but you've successfully gotten your ad fed as support, force your team to end lane phase asap.
Carrilord has arrived.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 19:56:45
February 17 2013 19:56 GMT
#1003
i also don't play lulu or zyra or lux or jarvan or any of those supports, I play sona/taric/leona and thats it and still win most of my games i think I picked taric in the low elo games and didnt really even win lane (AMG BAD AD REPORT REPORT)
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 17 2013 20:00 GMT
#1004
Do you guys think it's better to main 1/2 roles to rank up in solo queue or is better to just fill?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 20:06:04
February 17 2013 20:05 GMT
#1005
main as much as possible but dont be a dick

id main champs more than roles, you can nearly always get the same champ in a role but you cant always get the same role, you want to keep your champs to a minimum so you cna focus on getting better without having to learn a new champ every time
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 17 2013 20:05 GMT
#1006
On February 18 2013 05:00 IMoperator wrote:
Do you guys think it's better to main 1/2 roles to rank up in solo queue or is better to just fill?


Maining will get you up faster IF you can consistently get your best role. But at minimum you need to go like 50/50 in at least 1-2 other roles.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 17 2013 20:21 GMT
#1007
dunkey is on my friends list. I think he accepted my friend request yesterday.

what do i do.

im dreaming
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
February 17 2013 20:22 GMT
#1008
On February 18 2013 05:21 HazMat wrote:
dunkey is on my friends list. I think he accepted my friend request yesterday.

what do i do.

im dreaming


Ask him if he will teach you an advanced course on how to meet girls lol.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
February 17 2013 20:56 GMT
#1009
On February 18 2013 05:00 IMoperator wrote:
Do you guys think it's better to main 1/2 roles to rank up in solo queue or is better to just fill?

Depends what role.

If you want to main support/jungle then you can probably do that.

If you want to main mid/top you better be able to play the other roles competently as backup.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
February 17 2013 21:10 GMT
#1010
It's getting very tiring to patch the game everytime I launch it... QQ
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 17 2013 21:17 GMT
#1011
Doublelift casting Azubu Collegiate League on Azubu Tv!

http://global.azubu.tv/main.html
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 17 2013 21:27 GMT
#1012
On February 18 2013 06:17 AsnSensation wrote:
Doublelift casting Azubu Collegiate League on Azubu Tv!

http://global.azubu.tv/main.html

woot azubu.tv lagging so badly, even worse than twitch.tv on tournament days.

/dislike
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
February 17 2013 21:31 GMT
#1013
Is this suppose to happen? I condemn Hercrim right before he ulted and my condemn did nothing to him.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14208 Posts
February 17 2013 21:37 GMT
#1014
On February 18 2013 06:31 HeroHenry wrote:
Is this suppose to happen? I condemn Hercrim right before he ulted and my condemn did nothing to him.

If he ulted before the missle hit him then yeah its how it should work.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 21:45:51
February 17 2013 21:41 GMT
#1015
On February 18 2013 06:17 AsnSensation wrote:
Doublelift casting Azubu Collegiate League on Azubu Tv!

http://global.azubu.tv/main.html

Omg, this is so fucking funny. Doublelift commentating is hilarious.
Reminds me of Idra commentating.
This is teh best game ever. LOL.
liftlift > tsm
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 17 2013 22:13 GMT
#1016
Happy Korean birthday neo~
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 17 2013 22:15 GMT
#1017
On February 18 2013 04:54 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 04:44 barbsq wrote:
On February 18 2013 04:33 freestalker wrote:
I need an advice.

I play support, and am wondering how to consistently help the team win. When there was no league system, I was oscilating between silver and gold, but I feel like the people lack some common sense and even if winning throw the game in the end because they get overconfident and fight 4v5, etc.. Anyway. This is not the point. The question is, what is a good support to play at this relatively low elo, that will allow me to consistently carry my team even if they suck (I kinda expect the answer is go play jungler/mid).

Normally, I play whatever seems the most reasonable choice depending on enemy pick, or I pick taric/leona on blue side for double golems + lvl 2 kill, then try to snowball from there. But it seems to me that even if we manage to win the bot lane, it's not necessarily leading to win of the whole game. And even if we win bot lane more than lose, I lose games more than win.. So I was wondering, if going some non-optimal support, which is however good at being agressive and really annoying and even has potential of carrying, because people at this league just suck playing against them, would be a good idea. Supports such as lux or nidalee (people just love 'em javelins). Or generally, maybe playing those 'poke' supports more would work, such as Sona/Zyra/Lulu. As often even if I initiate the fight well with melee support, our team is too scared or too far away they just don't do anything or can't use the situation. With poke champ I could just poke until enemy is low enough. Hm..

Ideas?

lulu's a super strong support imo. She is very good at minimizing mistakes of teammates and capitalizing on mis-positioning of enemies. Tbh, I'd rate lulu as among the best in terms of game impact.

edit: if you want to direct your team, then leona is probably a stronger option, because her initiation makes it painfully obvious to the rest of your team when and where to teamfight. As long as you have a good sense of telling what fights you can win, and which you can't, then leona is very good at carrying.

I'd also say thresh is a very potent support as well.


Lulu is a great get out of jail free/ teamfight champ, but she kind of lacks damage in the end.

Leona depends on the rest of your team also knowing if its a good fight. My experience in soloq is unless its painfully obvious you're ahead or even, oftentimes your team will not follow up and you'll just die 1v5 and get flamed.

I love Thresh, but no one knows how to use his lantern. No one.

Lulu puts out great damage for a support, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Lategame she can waveclear by herself with just glitterlance...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
February 17 2013 22:29 GMT
#1018
On February 18 2013 07:15 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 04:54 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 18 2013 04:44 barbsq wrote:
On February 18 2013 04:33 freestalker wrote:
I need an advice.

I play support, and am wondering how to consistently help the team win. When there was no league system, I was oscilating between silver and gold, but I feel like the people lack some common sense and even if winning throw the game in the end because they get overconfident and fight 4v5, etc.. Anyway. This is not the point. The question is, what is a good support to play at this relatively low elo, that will allow me to consistently carry my team even if they suck (I kinda expect the answer is go play jungler/mid).

Normally, I play whatever seems the most reasonable choice depending on enemy pick, or I pick taric/leona on blue side for double golems + lvl 2 kill, then try to snowball from there. But it seems to me that even if we manage to win the bot lane, it's not necessarily leading to win of the whole game. And even if we win bot lane more than lose, I lose games more than win.. So I was wondering, if going some non-optimal support, which is however good at being agressive and really annoying and even has potential of carrying, because people at this league just suck playing against them, would be a good idea. Supports such as lux or nidalee (people just love 'em javelins). Or generally, maybe playing those 'poke' supports more would work, such as Sona/Zyra/Lulu. As often even if I initiate the fight well with melee support, our team is too scared or too far away they just don't do anything or can't use the situation. With poke champ I could just poke until enemy is low enough. Hm..

Ideas?

lulu's a super strong support imo. She is very good at minimizing mistakes of teammates and capitalizing on mis-positioning of enemies. Tbh, I'd rate lulu as among the best in terms of game impact.

edit: if you want to direct your team, then leona is probably a stronger option, because her initiation makes it painfully obvious to the rest of your team when and where to teamfight. As long as you have a good sense of telling what fights you can win, and which you can't, then leona is very good at carrying.

I'd also say thresh is a very potent support as well.


Lulu is a great get out of jail free/ teamfight champ, but she kind of lacks damage in the end.

Leona depends on the rest of your team also knowing if its a good fight. My experience in soloq is unless its painfully obvious you're ahead or even, oftentimes your team will not follow up and you'll just die 1v5 and get flamed.

I love Thresh, but no one knows how to use his lantern. No one.

Lulu puts out great damage for a support, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Lategame she can waveclear by herself with just glitterlance...

support xin is better tho
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 17 2013 22:35 GMT
#1019
If only lulu had a cool skin. Then I could play her. Something that changed that annoying voice.
Freeeeeeedom
freestalker
Profile Joined March 2010
469 Posts
February 17 2013 23:20 GMT
#1020
On February 18 2013 07:35 cLutZ wrote:
If only lulu had a cool skin. Then I could play her. Something that changed that annoying voice.


In contrary, I think that crazy lulu is awesome.
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