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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
I mean... maybe good for encouraging more ranked 5's but.... this kills the solo queue. I am neither gaining nor losing league points at Diamond I. Is this a bug or working as intended? edit: and I'm not at 100 league points. Also this system is so reliant on luck streaks. Like everyone at the top of their division is on their hot streak. Sometimes you get the perfect team, survive by 50 hp on those 1v1 trades allowing you to dominate your lane, etc. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 11 2013 10:08 MoonBear wrote: Aura bot but you can be cute with your micro bot lane and get poke harass. You're really squishy though so you need to be super careful how you do it. Also you have an AoE CC which is amazing. Super fun. Her default splash art is getting an upgrade so now it looks good, although Silent Night and Disco Sona are also really cool. Fanboï. :< I really don't like it, looks like she's supposed to be some kind of lady-mage-dancer-seductress. The original one shows better than she's a lusician. Also it's totally subjective but knowing that she's a mute I feel her expression on the original conveys it way better. And golden eyes > blue eyes. Esp.when her hair is the exact same color, the splash is higher quality but the portrait looks like some shody duo chrome. >_> As an illustration/art/hi res pic, I agree that it's definitely an improvement. But as a Sona's depiction I like the original better. (Then again I said the same about LeBlanc and several others... I only really complained about fugliness Yi/Morde, although LB comes close.) | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On February 11 2013 10:19 Chrispy wrote: Wow, seriously? That is... horseshit. Stupid as hell. WTF? I mean... maybe good for encouraging more ranked 5's but.... this kills the solo queue. I am neither gaining nor losing league points at Diamond I. Is this a bug or working as intended? edit: and I'm not at 100 league points. Also this system is so reliant on luck streaks. Like everyone at the top of their division is on their hot streak. Sometimes you get the perfect team, survive by 50 hp on those 1v1 trades allowing you to dominate your lane, etc. The demotion mechanics are way too harsh, that's what's causing all the lucky streak issues. I have heard this is going to be addressed! V. silly that it takes 2 wins to get promoted to 0 points in the next division, but can only take 1 loss to get demoted to 50 points in the previous. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
(Not that I did that very often). Although I main Sona so I feel somewhat ripped off by the nerf to her figure. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
riot should have just made it so that you actually have to win more than u lose to gain points (this is what i think is happening to me in challenger right now) starting from diamond tier to make it an actual challenge to get 100 points for your promotion series in the first place. | ||
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
This challenger series encourages the shit out of winning streaks which is for the most part out of your own control and is very reliant on the team you get. #bringbackelo For the most part. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On February 11 2013 10:25 Alaric wrote: Fanboï. :< I really don't like it, looks like she's supposed to be some kind of lady-mage-dancer-seductress. The original one shows better than she's a lusician. Also it's totally subjective but knowing that she's a mute I feel her expression on the original conveys it way better. And golden eyes > blue eyes. Esp.when her hair is the exact same color, the splash is higher quality but the portrait looks like some shody duo chrome. >_> As an illustration/art/hi res pic, I agree that it's definitely an improvement. But as a Sona's depiction I like the original better. (Then again I said the same about LeBlanc and several others... I only really complained about fugliness Yi/Morde, although LB comes close.) Hm. I think Blue/Green eye colour > Gold in this case. If we're going for a Miku expy, then gold eye colour would be wrong. =/ | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 11 2013 10:27 zer0das wrote: The worst part of it is, her new portrait has a breast reduction, so whenever I play Sona I can't claim to be breast support NA anymore. (Not that I did that very often). Although I main Sona so I feel somewhat ripped off by the nerf to her figure. Her shoulders are even more undressed so you can claim for that as long as there's no Nidalee in your game. ^ yeah it's more that the gold at least creates a contrast with her skin/hair/whatever compared to the blue they used, while retaining the "magical/enigmatic hue" that maybe they shot for. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Hell, if they wanted to they could keep this whole league system. Just put back in the normal Elo. Then just have 2 options: show rank in made up division and show rank overall, and be able to sort play like that. For example, in Diamond you would still be in Teemos Mind Control Shrooms or whatever, only you would have your actual Elo next to your name instead of the LP thing. And in addition you would have an option to increase sorting to include ALL of the Diamond devisions, not just your own, to see where you stand. The problem with this system is that its STILL based on Elo. Your old Elo never went away. Instead they just draped this new LP system over the top to obscure it. And the problem is that the new system is SO good at obscuring it that the system makes absolutely no sense. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Rage away, I won't mind. This is completely warranted. Bad system is hilariously bad. I feel bad for guys like Chrispy and LoCi. ;; | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On February 11 2013 10:41 NeoIllusions wrote: l0l, this new challenger system. Rage away, I won't mind. This is completely warranted. Bad system is hilariously bad. I feel bad for guys like Chrispy and LoCi. ;; Another case of good in theory, bad in practice. Hopefully Riot works out the promotion/demotion kinks. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 11 2013 10:42 nojitosunrise wrote: Another case of good in theory, bad in practice. Hopefully Riot works out the promotion/demotion kinks. I'm honestly not even sure how this would be good in theory. Did we even know about limited # of Challenger players before today? Edit: 7 day immunity? That is a tad long imo. O_o | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 11 2013 10:41 NeoIllusions wrote: l0l, this new challenger system. Rage away, I won't mind. This is completely warranted. Bad system is hilariously bad. I feel bad for guys like Chrispy and LoCi. ;; good guy neo, lets GD rip away at riot when they fuck up. What they needed to do with the system was just update the ladder rankings in real time, on their front page. Not really that hard. but NOPE. Decide to do this new bullshit system. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Then you actually SOLVE the stupid challenger problem, at least a little bit, because top Diamond players can look at their Elo, look at the bottom of challenger's Elo, and have incentive to play and catch up. Aint none of that here. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 11 2013 10:51 HazMat wrote: It's just funny how S3 was just released and people are already challenger... what do they do for the next 6 or so months? At least with Elo keep could keep going up and up, reaching benchmarks like 3k Elo. Now you just watch people fight over Challenger spots? Watch Destiny try and reach Challenger tier.  | ||
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HPoirot
United States1303 Posts
On February 11 2013 10:51 HazMat wrote: It's just funny how S3 was just released and people are already challenger... what do they do for the next 6 or so months? At least with Elo keep could keep going up and up, reaching benchmarks like 3k Elo. Now you just watch people fight over Challenger spots? Challenger sub-tiers. Duh. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 11 2013 10:48 Two_DoWn wrote: Diamond+ should switch to actual Elo at the very least. Then you actually SOLVE the stupid challenger problem, at least a little bit, because top Diamond players can look at their Elo, look at the bottom of challenger's Elo, and have incentive to play and catch up. Aint none of that here. The funny thing is all of these problems were very well documented with SC2. I doubt there was a single SC2 player that saw these changes and was excited. | ||
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