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nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
February 11 2013 02:10 GMT
#3141
tips for Ryze top vs Garen?
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 02:13:27
February 11 2013 02:13 GMT
#3142
On February 11 2013 11:10 nosliw wrote:
tips for Ryze top vs Garen?


Don't?

Sass sorry too much salt m8.
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ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
February 11 2013 02:13 GMT
#3143
The challenger tier only makes sense if it was only applied to Ranked 5s. You know, because those 5s teams are the ones who will be 'challenging' for spots in the LCS.

TBH it looks like Riot has removed the incentive for the top strata of solo queuers to keep playing (being able to measure improvement) by obscuring infomation and using this new division system.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
February 11 2013 02:14 GMT
#3144
Man just played my first game with Thresh. Damn he's fun.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
February 11 2013 02:14 GMT
#3145
why not? I have root vs his speed boost.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 11 2013 02:19 GMT
#3146
On February 11 2013 11:14 nosliw wrote:
why not? I have root vs his speed boost.


And he presses W, and just runs fast at you spinning.

Even if you do well harassing him, he just lolol heal it back.

I dunno, I'd just not play that matchup.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 11 2013 02:25 GMT
#3147
If he maxes E first, you'll max W 2nd so his speedboost will out last your root pretty fast. You'll also be susceptible to zoning from the bush if you don't ward it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 11 2013 02:26 GMT
#3148
If Riot wanted to do an immunity system for challenger tier, they should have just made it 2 days, and after that if you're not winning more than X amount (that can be debated, somewhere between 55-60? idk) then you get demoted.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 11 2013 02:27 GMT
#3149
On February 11 2013 11:10 nosliw wrote:
tips for Ryze top vs Garen?


Use the Strategy forum. Either Ryze thread or SQSA sticky.

Thank you.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 11 2013 03:03 GMT
#3150
TBH Neo Id move that sticky into this forum. Having in the strat forum is great, but its a bit hard to find. Much easier to just move from GD straight there.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 03:30:14
February 11 2013 03:25 GMT
#3151
On February 11 2013 10:30 Navi wrote:
this is stupid. if im at challenger and have "immunity" why dont i just play until i stockpibizarresome points (like say 100 or so) and then just never leave? if anything it would give people in challenger who are near 0 points incentive not to play, same with people in diamond who have stopped gaining points.
riot should have just made it so that you actually have to win more than u lose to gain points (this is what i think is happening to me in challenger right now) starting from diamond tier to make it an actual challenge to get 100 points for your promotion series in the first place.

Its still elo dude. Challenger is just the front page, it's the top of the ladder and I assume it doesn't work like other leagues. If u sit at 0 pointz other ppl will pass you in elo and prolly you'll get demoted without even playing.

Everything is just a reflection of elo, if you are at 100 points and keep winning, in a week it's gonna have exactly the same impact as if this bizarre week immunity thing didn't exist.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 11 2013 03:32 GMT
#3152
Yeah, but there is definitely less incentive to keep playing when the only thing you can do is lose points or gain 0...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 11 2013 03:33 GMT
#3153
Honestly, why not put in both systems? You should have a visible Elo as well as a tiered challenger system.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 03:34:00
February 11 2013 03:33 GMT
#3154
$25k minimum base salary for LCS players

http://www.readmore.de/index.php?cont=news&id=10143
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
February 11 2013 03:38 GMT
#3155
On February 11 2013 12:33 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Honestly, why not put in both systems? You should have a visible Elo as well as a tiered challenger system.

Too many people were misinterpreting their elo and whining all day. I think the best solution would have been to still have the elo information somewhere but you need a third-party program to get at it, so people who really want to know can get it while everyone else can pretend it doesn't eixst
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 11 2013 03:40 GMT
#3156
Another thought: Froststab/Yegg said that some of the Challenger slots are reserved for players already in a promotion series. Presumably this means that the system already reserves a slot for you before you've even finished your promotion series.

Couldn't someone then just start the first game of their promotion series, then just NOT play ranked, and effectively lock a Challenger spot that goes to nobody indefinitely?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 11 2013 03:46 GMT
#3157
On February 11 2013 12:40 TheYango wrote:
Another thought: Froststab/Yegg said that some of the Challenger slots are reserved for players already in a promotion series. Presumably this means that the system already reserves a slot for you before you've even finished your promotion series.

Couldn't someone then just start the first game of their promotion series, then just NOT play ranked, and effectively lock a Challenger spot that goes to nobody indefinitely?


That sounds like the dumbest thing in the world.

So I wouldn't even be remotely surprised if that was true, knowing Riot's tendency for system implementation.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 11 2013 04:07 GMT
#3158
On February 11 2013 12:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On February 11 2013 12:40 TheYango wrote:
Another thought: Froststab/Yegg said that some of the Challenger slots are reserved for players already in a promotion series. Presumably this means that the system already reserves a slot for you before you've even finished your promotion series.

Couldn't someone then just start the first game of their promotion series, then just NOT play ranked, and effectively lock a Challenger spot that goes to nobody indefinitely?


That sounds like the dumbest thing in the world.

So I wouldn't even be remotely surprised if that was true, knowing Riot's tendency for system implementation.

I'd personally like it if Riot fixed the system they so recently implemented.; Never mind the perceived problems with the way Divisions work re: promotions/demotions, but we can't even see our own stats sometimes when the overlay screws up!
We can't see what League people belong to without delving into their profile, we can't see their most played champions because it's bugged to hell....these are really obvious client bugs that I'm hoping Riot will fix in this first patch but I haven't really noticed them acknowledging any of it as of yet.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 11 2013 04:23 GMT
#3159
I know someone who won 4 games in a row and got 0 pts because he was locked out of promotion series to challenger
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 04:27:21
February 11 2013 04:24 GMT
#3160
On February 11 2013 10:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On February 11 2013 10:42 nojitosunrise wrote:
On February 11 2013 10:41 NeoIllusions wrote:
l0l, this new challenger system.
Rage away, I won't mind. This is completely warranted. Bad system is hilariously bad.
I feel bad for guys like Chrispy and LoCi. ;;


Another case of good in theory, bad in practice. Hopefully Riot works out the promotion/demotion kinks.


I'm honestly not even sure how this would be good in theory. Did we even know about limited # of Challenger players before today?

Edit: 7 day immunity? That is a tad long imo. O_o


Yes they were up front that it was 250 players. I like the idea of having a cap, but the system for promotion/demotions is the fucked up part.
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