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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On January 21 2013 03:16 Complete wrote: Can somebody tell me why warmogs is so much stronger in season 3 and why tons of people are rushing it on almost everybody (zyra support, vlad top, etc.) I don't think it's any better. It costs less and give more health right when you buy it. Also more regen at all stages. But it's also less health at max stacks which is where most pros spend their time anyways. Armor and MR got nerfed which is another thing people will point out, but I think it's more just a realization that health was always a good stat to begin with. Hotshot built it yesterday on Nidalee. I've never seen his max range spears hit for so little, but I felt like for the first time, that he contributed to big teamfights as Nid. On January 21 2013 03:18 Alaric wrote: Health has always been better than resistances early on. Add to it that resistances have been nerfed, and health generally buffed in comparison, in s3. Add to that the penetration changes that actually increase the gap in cost-efficiency. As a finisher, look at warmogs' insane cost-efficient + slot-efficiency. Someone on reddit did some math a few days back. His conclusion was that with all the penetration crap coming in, it is actually a good idea to build armor and mr to counter it. It's a common fallacy that you should stack health to counter pen. | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 21 2013 03:25 Complete wrote: Well my problem is I feel like there is more flat penetrations (liandry's/BC etc.) being built this season. Building resistances against FLAT penetrations SHOULD be the better option, right? Or am I thinking about this wrong? Get Elise, Eve (and Karthus for good measure) out of the picture. Even if Katarina does true damage to you, she'll need a lot of AD/AP to bring her raw damage to the point where her full combo will do the 2500 HP needed to kill you. And she has resets. Warmogs/sunfire rushes make my Viktor sad. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 21 2013 03:41 OutlaW- wrote: I really, really hope Riot doesn't nerf Kayle just because people don't know how to play against her yet and because she's really good in this ''meta'' (good vs bruisers and assassins) it's funny seeing her go from amazing top laner, to shitty toplaner, to amazing midlaner. dem meta changes. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 21 2013 03:26 OutlaW- wrote: If you build a lot of gold on defensive items (it helps that Warmog is so cost effective) then even if their assasins have penetration, as long as you survive their cooldowns you can help your team kill the squishy, all in assassins. Warmog doesn't give any ''useless'' stats like mana or cdr. I think that's one of the reasons. Read this article on it earlier today. Overall it seemed a good read. http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/vvinrar/22857-why-is-warmogs-armor-so-strong | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 21 2013 03:18 obesechicken13 wrote: I don't think it's any better. It costs less and give more health right when you buy it. Also more regen at all stages. But it's also less health at max stacks which is where most pros spend their time anyways. Items always have the greatest impact on the game the moment you get it. A stronger immediate item timing in exchange for a weaker long-run growth is still very likely to be a stronger overall item in the hands of a team that can exploit such timings. It's actually in pub games where the stacking one is stronger because a solo queue team isn't likely to abuse your individual item timing well, and you're better off just being stronger in the long run. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On January 21 2013 01:35 gtrsrs wrote: yes, the sound won't work if you use a timestamped link but if you view the video from the start and just fast-forward to the game around 2 hours and 30 minutes, navi takes complete control of his team, he ACTUALLY wants to win instead of just dicking around, and his team and all of bischu's viewers just unload on him. it was sad and just shows me how few people really WANT it. everyone is so concerned about being casual and cool that they'd rather lose than improve or get passionate. i've always really liked navi but that video gave me a new level of respect for him Facts reaffirmed from watching that game: -Navi is awesome -Nintendude is a massive cockbag -JRT is a fucking god I don't really understand why everyone thought Navi was bad. He was getting amped, and he even said "it's been a while since I've made calls". His team did tell him to calm down a couple times, because he was getting slightly over the top, but at the end, Bischu and someone else (I think JRT?) said "I like it though". The chat was just being massive assholes for no reason, Navi was doing really well. Navi was the shot caller. He needs to be loud and assertive to get what he wants done. You listen to the shot caller's direction without question, and you can worry about it all later if things go wrong. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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LightRailCoyote
United States982 Posts
However, "WE ARE BARON" is still a golden quote, now and forever. | ||
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ketchup
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On January 21 2013 03:56 jcarlsoniv wrote: Facts reaffirmed from watching that game: -Navi is awesome -Nintendude is a massive cockbag -JRT is a fucking god I don't really understand why everyone thought Navi was bad. He was getting amped, and he even said "it's been a while since I've made calls". His team did tell him to calm down a couple times, because he was getting slightly over the top, but at the end, Bischu and someone else (I think JRT?) said "I like it though". The chat was just being massive assholes for no reason, Navi was doing really well. Navi was the shot caller. He needs to be loud and assertive to get what he wants done. You listen to the shot caller's direction without question, and you can worry about it all later if things go wrong. agreed 99% only thing i disagree is "he was getting slightly over the top" - imo, no such thing. you ever see michael jordan's teammates tell him to tone it back? in any other sport, the harder you pump yourself up, the more that your teammates will follow. intensity feeds off itself. the only time it doesn't is when someone's too worried about their image, which just loops around to my earlier-stated points about NA scene navi if you can't get your teammates pumped, join a team that has players that can match your passion IMO | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On January 21 2013 04:29 gtrsrs wrote: agreed 99% only thing i disagree is "he was getting slightly over the top" - imo, no such thing. you ever see michael jordan's teammates tell him to tone it back? in any other sport, the harder you pump yourself up, the more that your teammates will follow. intensity feeds off itself. the only time it doesn't is when someone's too worried about their image, which just loops around to my earlier-stated points about NA scene navi if you can't get your teammates pumped, join a team that has players that can match your passion IMO What you're saying is true but it's much more true for physically intensive as fuck games like basketball (every player is dead tired at the end of every game - trust me) moreso than for people clicking their mice | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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