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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14113 Posts
On February 01 2013 03:30 sylverfyre wrote: Thresh is pretty awesome. I'm surprised you'd bring up jarvan with no mention of Leona as far as kill lane ADC+supports go. Jarvan does more damage and amplifies damage better then leona. She works better with adcs like twitch corki but she doesn't give any benefits to anyone around her or provide any threat. Shes a good stunbot and her defensive steroid makes her hard to kill but she doesn't have the fire and fury that a prince of damacia gives. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
I have to figure out how to jump in though, because as an initiatior I got focused down really hard. Damage is great tho, I like her. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On February 01 2013 03:58 mr_tolkien wrote: Well, I don't have AP blues, so I'm running : AP quints AS reds Armor yellows MR/lvl blues As for masteries, I go 23/7/0, grabbing the 3 crit related masteries, as well as flat AD (1 point) and AP. I'm considering ditching the flat AD though... But I don't really know where to find the other point I would need for veteran's scars. What do you run exactly ? Runes: AP Quints/Glyphs, Crit Marks, Armor Seals. Masteries: 23/7/0 I swap the Armor masteries for MR when appropriate. I don't really care for Frenzy. It gets lost in the noise pretty quickly, and by the time you have enough crit for it to matter you should have enough attack speed to dwarf its benefit. Mathematically speaking it isn't bad, especially on a full build Tryndamere, but the whole point of the setup is to be more concerned about the early game. | ||
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Antyee
Hungary1011 Posts
On February 01 2013 04:31 Sermokala wrote: Jarvan does more damage and amplifies damage better then leona. She works better with adcs like twitch corki but she doesn't give any benefits to anyone around her or provide any threat. Shes a good stunbot and her defensive steroid makes her hard to kill but she doesn't have the fire and fury that a prince of damacia gives. I think you are vastly underestimating the damage of her W, the free autoattack from Q and her passive. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On February 01 2013 04:39 Doctorbeat wrote: Played my first Vi game, pretty fun. Way faster clear as I'd have thought. I have to figure out how to jump in though, because as an initiatior I got focused down really hard. Damage is great tho, I like her. she's not a primary initiator, similar to warwick. her dps is not bursty so you need to dive carries when you can get that sustained dps in. you don't want to ult, hit E once, and then die to cc. flash-vault breaker makes me feel manly during ganks though | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3064275 | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On February 01 2013 04:31 Sermokala wrote: Jarvan does more damage and amplifies damage better then leona. She works better with adcs like twitch corki but she doesn't give any benefits to anyone around her or provide any threat. Shes a good stunbot and her defensive steroid makes her hard to kill but she doesn't have the fire and fury that a prince of damacia gives. Excuse me? Jarvan as support brings only 1 second of hard CC + the ultimate (from which many ADs can escape without flash) and he's relatively squishy on low items compared to Leona. Leona can stun for 3 seconds, plus a short snare, and it's definitely easier to hit both abilities of EQ for Leona than Jarvan. Also consider what they bring past the laning phase - Jarvan isn't gonna keep up in damage later on in the game, his ultimate CAN be useful in teamfights, but ultimately, a well-applied Jarvan ulti could also be a well-applied Leona ulti, and the latter isn't going to dick over your team. Also, he only has a small armor steroid which he probably isn't even going to level up first, so he can't really have presence on the front line of teamfights with only a few ruby crystal items in the face of farmed enemy threats. Leona's W allows her to really get in up on the front line, and her teamfight initiation potential is immense with both her EQ combo and her long range ulti. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:02 xes wrote: S3 is coming http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3064275 I'm pretty pumped about Season 3 officially starting. I know a lot of people aren't looking forward to the ladder system but I'm really interested to give it a shot. Also the launch of lolesports.com is very exciting, especially for most of us on the writing staff. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
Plus, J4's knockup can hit the enemy enemy team, which is something Leona can't do nearly as easily, and he can even use it while retreating which is again, something Leona has difficulty with. He brings more mobility, more AoE, and more aura. Leona brings all-in, better single target CC, and a bit more damage (depending, because if J4 builds a few damage items, like Zeke's, he can definitely do more damage than Leona) J4 is very much a legitimate support champion, and it annoys me greatly how many people don't seem to get that. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:28 HazMat wrote: Rip I ended sub 2k. YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO LIVE FOR! + Show Spoiler + And, if this were a RIP scenario, we'd write your Elo on your tombstone. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
2-3 is most realistic, even 4 is a stretch unless you're fighting in a really enclosed space (the AoE is only radius 300). | ||
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Juddas
768 Posts
This is the final build, not sure about the order yet... Gunblade Muramana Frozen Fist Liandri's Torment and then Deathcap and whatever is necessary at that point. The few times I've tried this I did absolutely gross single target damage and really decent AOE. The Fist and gunblade work really well Liandri's which gains extra damage from your ult and E too. Plus Muramana feels amazing on him with his Q and W. It's really insane. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:29 AsmodeusXI wrote: YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO LIVE FOR! + Show Spoiler + And, if this were a RIP scenario, we'd write your Elo on your tombstone. Wouldn't be far from his birthdate. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Shit. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:31 Juddas wrote: So for everyone who plays fizz out there, and plays him well preferably, I have this new build that I really want to try and want to hear people's opinions about. This is the final build, not sure about the order yet... Gunblade Muramana Frozen Fist Liandri's Torment and then Deathcap and whatever is necessary at that point. The few times I've tried this I did absolutely gross single target damage and really decent AOE. The Fist and gunblade work really well Liandri's which gains extra damage from your ult and E too. Plus Muramana feels amazing on him with his Q and W. It's really insane. would u go 21 in AP in the offensive tree or the AD route because you dont actually get any ip items until Dcap it seems. also tearstaking seems like a pain in the ass on fizz what exactly is the s3 patch, the new ranking system? | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Great, I get to end up in some shit Silver Division with a retarded shitty name like 'Shaco's Shit-suckers' with a bunch of shit players I'll never see in a game. + Show Spoiler + Shit. Jerk  | ||
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:30 TheYango wrote: Golden Aegis never hits 5 people unless they tried to all-in you and failed, or lined up for a 5-person EQ or ulti. And Leona Ultimate never hits 5 people either, but people like to theorycraft like it does. We can assume a minimum of 290 (2 targets, and often 3). Armor and Magic resist aren't worth as much as they were since the penetration changes too. As for J4's ultimate, people do like to point out how easy it is to escape, but never bother to point out how ridiculously good it is at forcing people to blow their escapes at what is often a sub-optimal time, allowing your team to close in on them without any escapes left. And for someone who happens to not have any escapes left, it's a ridiculously long CC. | ||
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