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Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
January 24 2013 08:06 GMT
#2281
On January 24 2013 16:59 UniversalSnip wrote:
why does he beat ezreal?


From my experience on both sides of the matchup, unless Kog dies 3 times in the first 10 minutes Kog with W on is just too much damage for squishy lil' Ezreal.

ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 24 2013 08:14 GMT
#2282
Ezreal's much better at shifting fights and chases but Kogmaw is the king of stand in a spot and melt people.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 24 2013 08:15 GMT
#2283
Is Triforce still good on Ezreal?
Still been playing him alot and I dont think that nerf is as big as people say it is
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 24 2013 08:16 GMT
#2284
On January 24 2013 16:50 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 16:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
Lulu #1, even before Nunu got the nerf.

Kog is fine but only in competitive.

Idk, I would disagree that Kog is good only in competitive, just look at our own soloQ hero the glorious mighty warrior Entenzwerg, who just keeps rapping at 2200/2300+ as Kog'maw, his kinda signature champion.


Individual anecdotes aside, I'm sure there are niche players who can most definitely make Kog work in solo q consistently. But I was making a generalized statement. :X
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 24 2013 08:46 GMT
#2285
when the patch comes around kog will be one of the best
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
January 24 2013 08:49 GMT
#2286
There is this awkward moment when playing Kog, when four enemies are diving on to you, while your team is chasing the fifth and then you realize, that you're just a fat caterpillar.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
January 24 2013 08:52 GMT
#2287
On January 24 2013 17:49 BlueSpace wrote:
There is this awkward moment when playing Kog, when four enemies are diving on to you, while your team is chasing the fifth and then you realize, that you're just a fat caterpillar.


Atleast you blow up when you die
KCCO!
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 24 2013 08:55 GMT
#2288
On January 24 2013 17:15 arb wrote:
Is Triforce still good on Ezreal?
Still been playing him alot and I dont think that nerf is as big as people say it is


Triforce gives you too little of everything, imo.

Sheen by itself is more than enough damage (if you want the proc) and IBG is the better route as it gives an AoE 100% guaranteed slow, compared to hoping for a Phage proc.

I've been trying Genja's full-AD (Pickaxe -> BF -> BT -> LW -> IE) build on Ezreal, seems to be much better than Brut/Sheen rushing.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 24 2013 08:55 GMT
#2289
Just got a PBE account yesterday. I thought they started level 30, yet mine's at 1. Do you seriously have to level the account like a normal one?
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
January 24 2013 08:59 GMT
#2290
On January 24 2013 17:55 Diamond wrote:
Just got a PBE account yesterday. I thought they started level 30, yet mine's at 1. Do you seriously have to level the account like a normal one?

No, it takes a little time, your account will be upgraded to lvl 30 and you will get a bunch of RP and IP
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 24 2013 08:59 GMT
#2291
On January 24 2013 14:16 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 13:58 cLutZ wrote:
On January 24 2013 13:54 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I'm pretty sure I posted in this thread why carry junglers aren't truly viable. And yes, true viability comes from actual 5's play, because the format always matches it for good reason. Professional play in all games effect the nonprofessional play.

On January 24 2013 13:50 BluePanther wrote:
An increase in IP for new champs?




Only for the first week or two.


Carry jungle is not viable, because the jungle farm isn't yet equal to, or greater than solo lane farm. Literally, only after that would a true "carry" jungle be viable. That is just how this game works.


No, thats not really the issue. The amount of gold in the jungle is such that it should be more than lane if you clear it well and take a small amount your lanes (seuss has blogged on it 1 2). If the jungle had equal or greater farm than lane then junglers would have access to far more farm than a laner because they can move around and be allocated farm from lanes.

The issues are the the obvious complete lack of lane support, running smite on a carry, machete being wasted cost, and the fact that all the decently fast junglers are melee and all the problems that come with melee carrying.


When I say, "Carry" I mean win the game for your team without the other team sucking a lot. You can technically "carry" as a jungler atm with tons of successful ganks, etc. But, that is not a test of role being capable of "carrying".

A jungler can carry, when the opposing team (in a PRO game) says to themselves, "We need to shut this jungler down or he will stomp us" or they run another jungler that "needs to be shut down." Basically, if I put Jax top, you better shut him down, several ranged AD Carries, same thing. However, if a jungler is 1 kill and 20 minions ahead, how scared are you? Is stealing his next red buff a live or die moment? If not, the jungle is not a carry role.

If that is not what carrying is, you could not carry from any lane. The point is, if your team's jungler is ahead, and the rest of your team is even, its not nearly as useful as any other non-support character being ahead.


TLDR: Jungle Carries are Rare because setting a jungler ahead/behind is not nearly as impactful as setting a Mid/Top/Bot ahead/behind.
Freeeeeeedom
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
January 24 2013 09:00 GMT
#2292
On January 24 2013 17:52 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 17:49 BlueSpace wrote:
There is this awkward moment when playing Kog, when four enemies are diving on to you, while your team is chasing the fifth and then you realize, that you're just a fat caterpillar.


Atleast you blow up when you die


And thats when you envy that Ezreal who just LOLs and blinks out and kites your entire team like scrubs......
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 10:11:25
January 24 2013 09:24 GMT
#2293
Wooow olaf nerfs, I mean "changes" to ragnarok and nerf to W are ok but changing the Q slow to fading, would probably destroy his most fun mechanic.

And Team Solo Mebdi getting 3 players banned and 2 people with lifetime ban lol, IWD looks like a sheep compared to that.

looks like ex clg.eu> EG is a sure thing now
http://i.imgur.com/jfJ7AgU.jpg
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 09:49:59
January 24 2013 09:49 GMT
#2294
sorry for bragging but i just barely won a 5v4 in 35min with a tf/shen comp... in like a 2400 first pick game
dogmatix
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia339 Posts
January 24 2013 10:08 GMT
#2295
On January 24 2013 18:49 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sorry for bragging but i just barely won a 5v4 in 35min with a tf/shen comp... in like a 2400 first pick game


i was watching from the singed guys stream, was pretty funny
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 24 2013 10:19 GMT
#2296
NLB Winter league started.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nicegametvhd
you can watch here.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 24 2013 10:19 GMT
#2297
On January 24 2013 17:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 16:50 Scip wrote:
On January 24 2013 16:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
Lulu #1, even before Nunu got the nerf.

Kog is fine but only in competitive.

Idk, I would disagree that Kog is good only in competitive, just look at our own soloQ hero the glorious mighty warrior Entenzwerg, who just keeps rapping at 2200/2300+ as Kog'maw, his kinda signature champion.


Individual anecdotes aside, I'm sure there are niche players who can most definitely make Kog work in solo q consistently. But I was making a generalized statement. :X

kog easier for it to work in solo q imo. Most solo q players don't know how to end a game, despite being very far ahead. So more often than naught, if game is somewhat even, Kog can be a super deadly force. Then again, you could also have those 19minute inhibitor games too...
liftlift > tsm
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
January 24 2013 10:21 GMT
#2298
CJ insec with his infamous shaco is very effective!
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 24 2013 10:45 GMT
#2299
On January 24 2013 19:21 UnKooL wrote:
CJ insec with his infamous shaco is very effective!

it makes me so mad and sad that riot wanted to butcher shaco just because he's good at stomping pubs
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 24 2013 10:55 GMT
#2300
OMG DID YOU SEE THE SPLITSCREEN FEATURE
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