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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 16 2013 00:05 GMT
#8901
I never advertised myself usually, but I'm streaming atm if anybody wants to see my face ! And I'd gladly play with some TLers on EUW :D
http://www.twitch.tv/mr_tolkien

I hope one post in 1 year of streaming is not too much for GD to accept <3
The legend of Darien lives on
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
January 16 2013 00:05 GMT
#8902
On January 16 2013 09:04 Seuss wrote:
I'm assuming that this new system will automatically put players into leagues when it goes live, rather than Riot resetting Elo again.


Yes read the whole post including the question/answer part. Everyone is going to be placed into leagues depending on their current and top rating.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 16 2013 00:06 GMT
#8903
I wouldnt care so much if they didnt go and hide overall elo.

They can put me in whatever league they want. Just show me what my elo is relative to my friends and the best people.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 16 2013 00:10 GMT
#8904
This new system looks a bit wishy washy to me. I'd rather have them show me my elo rating which is what they use for the mm anyways
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 16 2013 00:13 GMT
#8905
On January 16 2013 09:06 Two_DoWn wrote:
I wouldnt care so much if they didnt go and hide overall elo.

They can put me in whatever league they want. Just show me what my elo is relative to my friends and the best people.

They should just remove all visible rating entirely and instead just replace it with a system where the only indication of your rating is a thumbs-up or thumbs-down next to the names of each of your friends indicating whether your rating is higher or lower than theirs.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 00:14:34
January 16 2013 00:14 GMT
#8906
On January 16 2013 09:13 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 09:06 Two_DoWn wrote:
I wouldnt care so much if they didnt go and hide overall elo.

They can put me in whatever league they want. Just show me what my elo is relative to my friends and the best people.

They should just remove all visible rating entirely and instead just replace it with a system where the only indication of your rating is a thumbs-up or thumbs-down next to the names of each of your friends indicating whether your rating is higher or lower than theirs.


Then you don't tell anyone but the system actually just makes you thumbs up everyone so you always think you are the best.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 16 2013 00:16 GMT
#8907
i dont really understand new rating system at all. so if im by chance put in a shitty league with no good players you will be at the top but what does that mean? absolutely nothing. with no way to go up from there.
I come in for the scraps
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 16 2013 00:16 GMT
#8908
On January 16 2013 09:14 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 09:13 TheYango wrote:
On January 16 2013 09:06 Two_DoWn wrote:
I wouldnt care so much if they didnt go and hide overall elo.

They can put me in whatever league they want. Just show me what my elo is relative to my friends and the best people.

They should just remove all visible rating entirely and instead just replace it with a system where the only indication of your rating is a thumbs-up or thumbs-down next to the names of each of your friends indicating whether your rating is higher or lower than theirs.


Then you don't tell anyone but the system actually just makes you thumbs up everyone so you always think you are the best.

BUT, it only does that if you play Mordekaiser, cuz Mordekaizer es numero uno
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 16 2013 00:18 GMT
#8909
I don't understand this at all. The current system is pretty much perfect.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
January 16 2013 00:19 GMT
#8910
Why is LoL picking up on one of the biggest things that SC2 did wrong :/ Not being able to see match making rating sucked.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 00:20:36
January 16 2013 00:19 GMT
#8911
On January 16 2013 09:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
i dont really understand new rating system at all. so if im by chance put in a shitty league with no good players you will be at the top but what does that mean? absolutely nothing. with no way to go up from there.


Leagues have nothing to do with who you play with at all and you can always go up in tiers until you literally reach the top with all the pros, read all the information in the FAQ.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 00:22:27
January 16 2013 00:21 GMT
#8912
If you cant fall out of new divitions the lowest bit of it will just become the new elo hell..
makes little sense. people can get worse at this game.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
January 16 2013 00:22 GMT
#8913
On January 16 2013 08:41 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 08:27 kainzero wrote:
sc2's system is only retarded because everyone wins

this system seems much better, once you pass a certain milestone you don't have to play with terrible players in the tier below you, lol.

what? You don't understand these systems work at all, matchmaking still uses elo, it's just hidden. This is about how information is presented to you, not how you get paired. Ranking systems without negative feedback that stops you playing are what game companies having been moving toward for a while, but it's cosmetic.

so theoretically if i get into gold tier, then if i go on a 30 game losing streak, i get matched up with crappy people?

if that's true then this system sucks
just like sc2


and sc2's system
CutieBK
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden227 Posts
January 16 2013 00:28 GMT
#8914
I don't know if it's a perfect system, but I really like the general look of it(such a stupid thing to say, but it's true!).

Hopefully it will be programmed well enough to ensure a nice arc in difficulty for skilled and new players alike!
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
January 16 2013 00:29 GMT
#8915
On January 16 2013 09:21 Gorsameth wrote:
If you cant fall out of new divitions the lowest bit of it will just become the new elo hell..
makes little sense. people can get worse at this game.


Again division have nothing to do with who you play against, it's just a fancy way to see where you are on the "ladder". Every loss continues to degrade your mmr (which is the elo we have now) and you will play with worse and worse people just like now, that part doesn't change.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 16 2013 00:31 GMT
#8916
On January 16 2013 08:15 Irave wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/new-league-system-coming-soon-ranked

Have more fun discussion time. Sounds like the sc2 system, but with the opportunity to play a game to rank up.

Yeah... I had somebody yell and scream at the start of my last game that finally, "we were rid of shit Elo system" (he proceeded to hilariously build random shit, get dunked and blame the team, so I guess I can see where he's coming from in terms of whining about Elo huehue).
But "akin to sc2" smells like trash to me. SC2's MMR is basically hidden Elo.

Our matchmaking system still matches you by skill level, but this “rating” is no longer visible and does not have any bearing on your seasonal rewards or ladder standing. Your standing in your league is now determined by your tier, division and League Points, not your matchmaking rating.

And I hate this. How can I try to mesure my own progression is all I have is "hey, you're better than X random guy in that tiny tiny division of yours that isn't representative at all of the LoL ranked population".
So what? All I have now is tiers? So whether I'm 1250 or 1499 I'll just be told "you're silver" all along (for example)?

How is that satisfying? Yeah, sure, it'll try to put some of the people on my flist that play ranked too and are at the same Elo than me in my division. Cool story bro! But I don't care in the slightest. If they're on my flist, we probably play together anyway, so we have some kind of idea of who's good at what. But to measure my progression? This system just confines you to a single subset of the players and tells you "oh, look, you're closer to the higher division! It has absolutely no ties to the level of play of the other, countless divisions out there, but you can feel good about being #1 somewhere".
That system may be good against ladder anxiety and shit because it lets you believe than you're becoming good and are doing fine and what not, but it stinks whenever you want to have a good idea of where you really stand compared to the rest. Fuck that. How's that "competitive"?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 16 2013 00:32 GMT
#8917
Basically not much has changed, but instead of your rating you just get some fancy icons ^_^
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 00:32:57
January 16 2013 00:32 GMT
#8918
Ran into a wild Skarnlold in soloq and carried him, lel

although he did help me secure first blood c:
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 16 2013 00:33 GMT
#8919
Are people bitching about the new system on the LoL forums? Because they should be. Hopefully Riot doesn't go through with this current system is fine.
TranslatorBaa!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 16 2013 00:34 GMT
#8920
On January 16 2013 08:58 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 08:55 sylverfyre wrote:
Seems like this is only for ranked 5s?


Very first picture has a quote that says this:

Show nested quote +
"In Season 3, ranked solo/duo, team 3v3, and team 5v5 matches feature a new league system. A league is a ladder of up to 250 players or teams of the same tier."

oic. Well, I am clearly good at reading comprehension.
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