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necrosed
Brazil885 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On January 10 2013 21:10 Vallelol wrote: For all the people who have trouble against AD mids (Talon/Pantheon etc.), you should try to play Maokai Mid with Magicpen reds, Armor yellows, ap/lvl blues and flat ap quints with 21/9/0 or 21/5/4 Masteries. First saw it on Chu8's Stream and it works good against almost everything (I didn't lose a lane with it yet). - Just max E and Q after (possible to take 2 in E and max Q first). - Start with Flask + 3 HPpots + 2 Manapots + Ward - Get RoA asap, following with sorcboots and Frozen Fist thingy Its also possible to go RoA, Sorcboots, Abyssal or DFG. Depends on enemy teamcomp I really recommend trying this build, the burst is insane, I played almost any AP Champion in the game and Maokai is probably one of the champs with the highest Damage+Utility. His Passive heals so much against spammers like Pantheon, Khazix etc. Edit: Also don't tell anyone else, don't want it to get nerfed I knew Maokai Mid was viable, but everyone called me a troll for trying it  | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On January 10 2013 20:56 Lylat wrote: Hum, except for koreans I don't think there are a lot of people who practice 24h/24h without getting exhausted. Maybe he was exhausted mentally that's why he performed badly and sometimes stepping back allow you to come back stronger. P.S : I'm not a fan of the guy, I don't especially like him but the intolerance/hate is too strong. CLG.eu is performing badly as well but I don't see anyone blaming Froggen for going on a vacation. I really dislike the stereotype that koreans practice 24/7 all the time. I think it was on state of the game, where Artosis said, that no matter what, whenever you ask a Korean pro, he will always say that he is practicing 24/7, but in reality they also slack, goof off or sometimes do other things. They just won't admit it publicly. No question that the Koreans overall train harder than western pros but everybody needs breaks... even korean pros. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
Avarice blade Irelia too strong Needed moar armor. Like 3 cloth armors would have done the trick prob. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
You're looking for this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305322 =D + Show Spoiler + But well done. Apropos of nothing, I wish I could have a three week vacation in Hawaii and then play pro-LoL. "Real jobs" suck. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On January 10 2013 22:11 BlueSpace wrote: I really dislike the stereotype that koreans practice 24/7 all the time. I think it was on state of the game, where Artosis said, that no matter what, whenever you ask a Korean pro, he will always say that he is practicing 24/7, but in reality they also slack, goof off or sometimes do other things. They just won't admit it publicly. Stork says hi. | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nicegametvhd watch here and find out! | ||
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
On January 10 2013 23:31 Chexx wrote: Can GSG kick out LG-IM in the NLB Winter league?! http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nicegametvhd watch here and find out! That stream is so laggy for me.. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
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misirlou
Portugal3306 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
Just curious :3 | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On January 11 2013 00:20 misirlou wrote: yellowpete vs wickd both adc on solo queue xD Lolz. Wickd getting rocked. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 10 2013 21:53 necrosed wrote: I find that Swain mid is really good against this meta of AD casters. I use one of my "top" pages, AD/armor/MR/armor, take E at level 1 then proceed to right-click them to death while kiting. When they start long sword+2 expecting a kill at level 2-3 they tend to back pretty quickly. (Then I fail at last-hitting while they have AoE clearing spells so it doesn't matter.) On January 10 2013 21:10 Vallelol wrote: For all the people who have trouble against AD mids (Talon/Pantheon etc.), you should try to play Maokai Mid with Magicpen reds, Armor yellows, ap/lvl blues and flat ap quints with 21/9/0 or 21/5/4 Masteries. First saw it on Chu8's Stream and it works good against almost everything (I didn't lose a lane with it yet). - Just max E and Q after (possible to take 2 in E and max Q first). - Start with Flask + 3 HPpots + 2 Manapots + Ward - Get RoA asap, following with sorcboots and Frozen Fist thingy Its also possible to go RoA, Sorcboots, Abyssal or DFG. Depends on enemy teamcomp I really recommend trying this build, the burst is insane, I played almost any AP Champion in the game and Maokai is probably one of the champs with the highest Damage+Utility. His Passive heals so much against spammers like Pantheon, Khazix etc. Edit: Also don't tell anyone else, don't want it to get nerfed Maokai real stronk lane and clearing, also gank assist (he really lacks burst until you put several points in W tho, because they'll evade the sapling bigger part), but when it comes to shitting on squishies he's weaker than most because of his range, and inherent "squishiness" if you build him AP (gauntlet is about as hilarious as having the gold to buy triforce on jungle Mao tho, top-notch base AD is fun). | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On January 11 2013 00:49 Alaric wrote: I use one of my "top" pages, AD/armor/MR/armor, take E at level 1 then proceed to right-click them to death while kiting. When they start long sword+2 expecting a kill at level 2-3 they tend to back pretty quickly. (Then I fail at last-hitting while they have AoE clearing spells so it doesn't matter.) What masteries you run? | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On January 10 2013 22:11 BlueSpace wrote: I really dislike the stereotype that koreans practice 24/7 all the time. I think it was on state of the game, where Artosis said, that no matter what, whenever you ask a Korean pro, he will always say that he is practicing 24/7, but in reality they also slack, goof off or sometimes do other things. They just won't admit it publicly. No question that the Koreans overall train harder than western pros but everybody needs breaks... even korean pros. The reason they say that is that in Korea, you are expected to be tryhard (the whole asian dad meme and asian prodigy kids, i'm sure you know what i'm talking about). In western society, it much more accepted to be good at something because you're just talented. If you can be best in the world at something, without even trying your best, that's somewhat of an achievement in itself. You also have people like Stephano, who's always talking about how little he practices, which could be a way to lower people's expectations and thus lowering the pressure he feels. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On January 10 2013 17:02 TheYango wrote: I do think the sieging ability of a ranged carry is a significant factor. At this point, the game doesn't really have a safe alternative to that for pushing high ground towers (split-pushing base towers is inherently slow, risky, and not what I'd call safe). This is especially the case insofar as LoL, unlike DotA, does not have casters that can siege towers well, nor does it have many sieging items that help a team's creep wave push the high ground (though the potential of Banner in this type of situation is worth exploring), or allow a melee to siege like a ranged carry does (Manta Style). There is a LOT of merit in the fact that a ranged carry allows you to safely end a game without having to resort to diving or exposing yourself to 4v5s. I would agree it's a significant factor, but I think there are a number of champions who can work around that issue without needing to be or build like an AD carry. Jayce, Nidalee, Elise, and Kayle are four who stand out. All four can be played in various lanes/roles depending on the needs of your team composition, and all four can have the damage and range to siege turrets without having to build like an AD carry. They may not fit into every team composition, but they can fulfill the same sieging role. There are also plenty of AP champions who have the attack range to do some sieging. Anivia, Annie, Ziggs, Zilean, and Zyra all have attack ranges of 575 or more, and have plenty to bring to a siege, to a teamfight, or both. Another 10 AP champions (excluding Elise) have 550 range. With either Lich Bane or simply lots of AP they can still poke down towers. They may not be as good at taking towers as AD carries, but you will still be able to whittle down a tower without committing to a dive. This is all really just the tip of the iceberg, as team composition theory is a complicated and labyrinthine subject. However, I think it's fairly clear that there are ways around having an AD carry which don't involve split-pushing, diving, or taking every single baron/dragon while the enemy team sits in their trenches. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On January 11 2013 00:37 OutlaW- wrote: If it's a fanclub for me, I'll allow it. Good to know you're flexible | ||
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