EPT[Patch 1.0.0.153: Preseason Balance Update 1] GD - Page 327
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
That should get around their (Zilean's) stubbornness. | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On January 08 2013 07:23 Phunkapotamus wrote: Why don't non-riot tournaments start offering more/different bans without Riot's input? That should get around their (Zilean's) stubbornness. ESL has worked with 4 bans before with 1 ban done in chat. But only for their online stuff. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On January 08 2013 07:30 JBright wrote: ESL has worked with 4 bans before with 1 ban done in chat. But only for their online stuff. I mean they could but the client is kinda limiting them atm. There really should be a ban, pick, ban, pick rotation like DotA imo or at least add another ban since we have so many champs. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On January 08 2013 07:13 Alaric wrote: If Twitch uses ambush as the particle is in the air, he should still survive unless he gets killed in one swift burst, shouldn't he? It depends. He's damn squishy, as squishy as Lux so sometimes he can get away, other times one Taric stun is enough to kill him. The stealth takes longer to activate when you're being attacked too. Twitch's squishiness really hurts him as a jungler since if he ganks a scary mid, they can just turn on him and kill him. | ||
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
On January 08 2013 06:45 obesechicken13 wrote: Also when you use Runaan's and Twitch ult you can hit the same target twice. Once with a primary bolt and once with a secondary. Is dumb. + Show Spoiler + According to the wiki. I wasn't a fan of Runan's when I tried it (a recurring theme with that item). Way too small of an arc, though I guess that would be less of a problem in his ult. Just felt that the 3 crits from SotD give you more punch. Coming out of stealth with ult and hitting SotD after the first shot is huge burst not to mention picking off badly positioned players early in a fight at all stages of the game. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On January 08 2013 07:42 Amarok wrote: I wasn't a fan of Runan's when I tried it (a recurring theme with that item). Way too small of an arc, though I guess that would be less of a problem in his ult. Just felt that the 3 crits from SotD give you more punch. Coming out of stealth with ult and hitting SotD after the first shot is huge burst not to mention picking off badly positioned players early in a fight at all stages of the game. I didn't know it was an arc. I know it feels that way but I thought it was a 300 radius around the target. I agree that's still puny but it's the same size as hydra. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 08 2013 08:05 obesechicken13 wrote: I didn't know it was an arc. I know it feels that way but I thought it was a 300 radius around the target. I agree that's still puny but it's the same size as hydra. God I hate winter, too dark, feels so late. I was about to criticize Riot for not releasing the Qualifier Bracket yet but then realized it's only about 3PM for them... | ||
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icemanzdoinwork
447 Posts
On January 08 2013 07:06 VayneAuthority wrote: I would leave ad carries out of this, its 100% about the supports. If you are twitch janna you cant really do shit early, if you are say twitch/lulu you can stomp something like cait/nunu, but if its cait/leona its a whole different ball game. also twitch doesnt really like taric in the same way draven doesnt, really ruins his combos and he has no escape Leona is like the anti twitch lane. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On January 08 2013 08:24 icemanzdoinwork wrote: Leona is like the anti twitch lane. Rats hate the sun. Trufax. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
On January 08 2013 07:42 wei2coolman wrote: Jeez, westrice has 70% winrate with Zed... O.o 52win 22 losses. That champ clearly has potential. You know his runes/build, per chance? I know Wickd has been playing Zed an awful lot as well. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 08 2013 05:33 samthesaluki wrote: didnt know this discusion wasnt allowed No wonder your smurf is so high  | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 08 2013 05:53 obesechicken13 wrote: CD isn't completely reset. It goes to .5 seconds. But yes this sounds right. Yeah when I said "reset" I was referring to 0.5 seconds. But anyway, thanks. On January 08 2013 07:34 obesechicken13 wrote: It depends. He's damn squishy, as squishy as Lux so sometimes he can get away, other times one Taric stun is enough to kill him. The stealth takes longer to activate when you're being attacked too. Twitch's squishiness really hurts him as a jungler since if he ganks a scary mid, they can just turn on him and kill him. And Lux is actually not that squishy because she has a shield with great base and ratio. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On January 08 2013 08:48 Dusty wrote: Why don't people play Rammus? He seems like a fine champ. You weren't around for the Rammus Pick/ban every game times? At one point he was considered the best jungler, but Riot repeatedly nerfed him, now hes OK (heh), but he is fairly weak in jungle duels. Hes got speed and tankiness, and in the right hands hes still great, but hes no longer a pubstomp. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On January 08 2013 08:57 57 Corvette wrote: You weren't around for the Rammus Pick/ban every game times? At one point he was considered the best jungler, but Riot repeatedly nerfed him, now hes OK (heh), but he is fairly weak in jungle duels. Hes got speed and tankiness, and in the right hands hes still great, but hes no longer a pubstomp. Rammus got nerfs on every skill except his ult, along nerfs to his stats. He was always rather susceptible to counterjungling, but now even more so after all the nerfs. He can still work very well if you have strong lanes that can protect your jungle. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On January 08 2013 09:01 Ryuu314 wrote: Rammus got nerfs on every skill except his ult, along nerfs to his stats. He was always rather susceptible to counterjungling, but now even more so after all the nerfs. He can still work very well if you have strong lanes that can protect your jungle. Pretty much exactly this. Rammus' clear speed isn't that great and because of his poor dueling ability, any invade can just absolutely wreck him. But, with proper wards and lanes that pay attention to their opponent I think he's fantastic to play still. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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R11
Canada213 Posts
On January 08 2013 08:57 57 Corvette wrote: You weren't around for the Rammus Pick/ban every game times? At one point he was considered the best jungler, but Riot repeatedly nerfed him, now hes OK (heh), but he is fairly weak in jungle duels. Hes got speed and tankiness, and in the right hands hes still great, but hes no longer a pubstomp. Haven't played Rammus for a long time but I felt that unless you want to really practice the champion, you hit a ceiling where it gets more and more difficult to gank as players are better at dealing with his ganks. Also I guess with more champions having gap closing/disengage, it's harder to play him when your CC's require you to be pretty close to them. I still think he's a decent jungler though, just that your average player probably doesn't feel the need or want to learn how to play Rammus when you could gank pretty efficiently with FotM champions. | ||
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