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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 04:02:23
January 07 2013 03:59 GMT
#6301
Wait, why is Graves bad? I mean, I know he's not as great as he was, but is there something I'm missing? Good burst, a bit more tanky than most ADs, has a nice gap-closer and slow... Why would anyone say that's "he's really not that good anymore". At the very least, he seems like a very solid pick.

Edit: Also, regarding the "tournament discussion thread" or whatever, I think it could easily take away a good amount of interesting content from the general discussion. If the thread were made only to make current comments on a live match or tournament, that would be fine. Then people who weren't interested in it could avoid the match talk but still get any important details (such as build and team comp stuff, for example).
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
January 07 2013 04:04 GMT
#6302
saint on jungle ez in the tsm tourney
2809-8732-2116/ Fighting/ Mienfoo, Tyrogue, Sawk
jcc
Profile Joined January 2011
United States472 Posts
January 07 2013 04:08 GMT
#6303
On January 07 2013 12:28 HazMat wrote:
Scarra posted on my video hi5.


which video?
http://broukej.cz/lol-signatures/GGod_na_103_4_logo.png
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 07 2013 04:09 GMT
#6304
On January 07 2013 13:08 jcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 12:28 HazMat wrote:
Scarra posted on my video hi5.


which video?

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1636k0/high_elo_fails_montage_watch_your_favorite/c7sb7qt
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 04:13:13
January 07 2013 04:09 GMT
#6305
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 07 2013 04:22 GMT
#6306
On January 07 2013 11:27 Alaric wrote:
AD is cheaper so you reach your core components faster, and if you build a vamp you already get 10 AD from it so that's less to get from dblades for your cs-ing.


I feel like an underrated factor is that if you are #1 farm position (like an AD Carry) you have less gold now than before. So the "sunk costs" of Dorans are worse. as is the worse buyback, plus BT first is even more common now which makes them less needed.

Its a confluence of anti-dorans factors.
Freeeeeeedom
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 07 2013 04:34 GMT
#6307
On January 07 2013 13:22 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 11:27 Alaric wrote:
AD is cheaper so you reach your core components faster, and if you build a vamp you already get 10 AD from it so that's less to get from dblades for your cs-ing.


I feel like an underrated factor is that if you are #1 farm position (like an AD Carry) you have less gold now than before. So the "sunk costs" of Dorans are worse. as is the worse buyback, plus BT first is even more common now which makes them less needed.

Its a confluence of anti-dorans factors.

Dorans now are better than they were imo. I've been going vamp/1dorans as my core build though.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 07 2013 04:35 GMT
#6308
On January 07 2013 13:04 AUGcodon wrote:
saint on jungle ez in the tsm tourney

IBG perfect on jungle Ez lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 04:43:18
January 07 2013 04:42 GMT
#6309
ok, Did Curse just beat Fear with an Ezreal jungle, Nautilus support and a warmog Kataria...talking about weird team comp.
Terran
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 07 2013 04:43 GMT
#6310
On January 07 2013 13:04 AUGcodon wrote:
saint on jungle ez in the tsm tourney


Wish I would have seen the early game but they destroyed Fear the last fight lol.
Never Knows Best.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 07 2013 04:43 GMT
#6311
On January 07 2013 13:42 Caphe wrote:
ok, Did Curse just beat Fear with an Ezreal jungle, Nautilus support and a warmog Kataria...talking about new meta.

Saints been saying for a few days Ezreal is a super good jungle if you have a mid who doesnt rely on blue
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
January 07 2013 04:43 GMT
#6312
That was a pretty well thought out comp from Curse. Not sure about the Nautilus support, but kiting was stupidly strong for that comp.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 07 2013 04:44 GMT
#6313
On January 07 2013 13:43 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 13:42 Caphe wrote:
ok, Did Curse just beat Fear with an Ezreal jungle, Nautilus support and a warmog Kataria...talking about new meta.

Saints been saying for a few days Ezreal is a super good jungle if you have a mid who doesnt rely on blue

Kat, perfect champ to not need blue buff haha.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
January 07 2013 04:47 GMT
#6314
yeah lol

Anyway nice to see teams inventing new comps, season 3 has a lot of potential which is going to make the championship series/ogn interesting (well ogn is already interesting)
Go go Alliance.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 04:51:22
January 07 2013 04:49 GMT
#6315
On January 07 2013 13:34 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 13:22 cLutZ wrote:
On January 07 2013 11:27 Alaric wrote:
AD is cheaper so you reach your core components faster, and if you build a vamp you already get 10 AD from it so that's less to get from dblades for your cs-ing.


I feel like an underrated factor is that if you are #1 farm position (like an AD Carry) you have less gold now than before. So the "sunk costs" of Dorans are worse. as is the worse buyback, plus BT first is even more common now which makes them less needed.

Its a confluence of anti-dorans factors.

Dorans now are better than they were imo. I've been going vamp/1dorans as my core build though.

I dunno. If you're able to just rush vamp+BF sword, you quickly reach your BT like that, and you don't need Doran's as badly when you have a relatively early BT. However, I do 1 dorans, maybe 2 on Kog (and run with a much earlier zerker greaves than I'm getting on most ADC nowadays) since Kog is getting a lot of non-physical damage which doesn't get lifestolen but

Another interesting thing about dorans blades is that they no longer feel wasteful on Irelia (The new Dorans shield is also pro - depends on whether the passive of the shield is going to block much damage in the lane I'm against and some other factors.)
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 07 2013 04:54 GMT
#6316
Saint pulling out Jungle Ezreal again
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 07 2013 04:55 GMT
#6317
"I'm not moving"
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 07 2013 04:55 GMT
#6318
Jungle Syndra, has anyone tried it?

I've had moderate success, the clear times are pretty good (Around 3:30ish finish first runthrough), ganks are pretty good assuming you can land the stun.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 07 2013 04:56 GMT
#6319
On January 07 2013 13:54 arb wrote:
Saint pulling out Jungle Ezreal again

With Lux mid...she could use blue lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 07 2013 04:58 GMT
#6320
On January 07 2013 13:56 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 13:54 arb wrote:
Saint pulling out Jungle Ezreal again

With Lux mid...she could use blue lol.

Jacky bout to show how to play Lux with no Blue or Saints gonna try ezreal jungle with no blue
either way, def a learning experience!
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