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Bloody hell you guys need to chill out on the TSM hatred. I don't know what they did to you guys but being a tad harsh. I don't even like TSM but to call them terrible is just downright untrue.
A few months ago everyone was raving how good Xspecial was and how he made plays for the team, meanwhile dyrus playing vlad killing and dominating toplanes and baiting people into poor fights. The crowds they are fickle I guess.
Ignoring all of this, why are you guys trying to judge pro players skill in solo que in what is essentially the off season for them. Do you really think Dyrus gives much care to ranked solo que on New years eve? It's pointless to judge other then to have something to talk about.
I guess it's slightly better then people discussing phreaks personal life but not by much.
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On January 01 2013 07:07 Fwmeh wrote:
TSMs play is really tied to the performance of Regi, it has been that way as long as I have followed them. The thing is that he is both a major shot-caller, and also really aggressive. If he tilts and he starts to feed, they sort of lack a strong voice to take over. And his aggression is also really hit or miss. That to me is part of the reason why he is good on Karthus, it forces him to temper his aggression to more reasonable levels, though I seem to remember seeing him flash in and wall+lay waste an opponent under tower...
The reason why Regi spams Karthus at tournaments is because Karthus is easy and Regi is bad.
Maybe as a shot caller he's really good. But in lane and in team fights he's bottom of the barrel.
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When did people ever rave about how good xpecial was? O.o
And, if you were reading the comments correctly, everyone here said Dyrus is good on Vlad/Kayle, but he's stupid and stopped playing these champs.
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On January 01 2013 06:47 tobi9999 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2013 06:39 wei2coolman wrote:On January 01 2013 06:35 Fwmeh wrote:
Well they did, back when they themselves actually won tournaments. Then they got anally brutalized by Blaze, drew the wrong conclusions from that, and have gotten worse ever since (sort of).
Looking back, it seems that the period when TSM were strong might simply coincide with a period in the meta when champs they were strong at were more strongly favored, such as Karth/Kayle/pre nerf Ez.
I think Chaox in particular really benefited from the Corki-Ezreal-Graves era, as he was strong on those champions Do people still ride on ChaoX banwagon? I was never impressed with his play tbh, he looks good in terms of NA/EU scene ADC, but in international scene he looks horrid. He also had that 3dblade + PD ashe build, which made me want to tear my hair out and punch ponies. Dyrus was best during Kayle/Vlad era; dunno why he's trying to play so much Darius... >.> TOO; only shining star in current TSM lineup imo; usually the most consistent, and prevent TSM from losing early game too badly. why do people like to pretend that Reginald doesn't single handedly carry TSM lol TOO has the worst mechanics of any pro player i've ever seen. But NA junglers aren't even good so it doesn't matter Chaox is decent, not that far behind top AD carries imo. Xpecial has awful mechanics, pretty average NA support Dyrus is atrocious all around and was never good. It was just that he had no competition. Who the hell was gonna beat him in lane? Hotshot? nope Reginald is/was their only hope, but now he's mediocre too
I think you guys have some kind of bias, Dyrus was clearly the best top laner in the world at some point and he's still a contender. Saying stuff like "he's atrocious all around and was never good" is just stupid.
Also, he's my friend irl, so eat a dick.
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People just want NA teams to be more of a threat in international tournaments. That's why they hate on TSM for seemingly stagnating and Hotshot losing lanes etc. etc.
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On January 01 2013 07:14 wei2coolman wrote:
When did people ever rave about how good xpecial was? O.o
And, if you were reading the comments correctly, everyone here said Dyrus is good on Vlad/Kayle, but he's stupid and stopped playing these champs.
I thought he stopped playing them because the rest of the team (mostly Regi I would guess) told him to stop playing them? I don't know for sure, this was before I found LoL and got into the pro scene, but that is what most people seem to say.
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On January 01 2013 07:18 TheSinisterRed wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2013 07:14 wei2coolman wrote:
When did people ever rave about how good xpecial was? O.o
And, if you were reading the comments correctly, everyone here said Dyrus is good on Vlad/Kayle, but he's stupid and stopped playing these champs. I thought he stopped playing them because the rest of the team (mostly Regi I would guess) told him to stop playing them? I don't know for sure, this was before I found LoL and got into the pro scene, but that is what most people seem to say.
He's stupid to listen to his team, and his team is retarded for even suggesting otherwise. Best tsm was when Rainman got replaced with Dyrus, and Dyrus carried through top lane.
Also, anyone read that reddit thread about the guy saying mobafire is somewhat decent? I had a hernia from laughing so damn hard.
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gg she had intercourse with 98 men before doing porn, Phreak gotta step up his game to stimulate anything down there.
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On January 01 2013 07:17 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2013 06:47 tobi9999 wrote:On January 01 2013 06:39 wei2coolman wrote:On January 01 2013 06:35 Fwmeh wrote:
Well they did, back when they themselves actually won tournaments. Then they got anally brutalized by Blaze, drew the wrong conclusions from that, and have gotten worse ever since (sort of).
Looking back, it seems that the period when TSM were strong might simply coincide with a period in the meta when champs they were strong at were more strongly favored, such as Karth/Kayle/pre nerf Ez.
I think Chaox in particular really benefited from the Corki-Ezreal-Graves era, as he was strong on those champions Do people still ride on ChaoX banwagon? I was never impressed with his play tbh, he looks good in terms of NA/EU scene ADC, but in international scene he looks horrid. He also had that 3dblade + PD ashe build, which made me want to tear my hair out and punch ponies. Dyrus was best during Kayle/Vlad era; dunno why he's trying to play so much Darius... >.> TOO; only shining star in current TSM lineup imo; usually the most consistent, and prevent TSM from losing early game too badly. why do people like to pretend that Reginald doesn't single handedly carry TSM lol TOO has the worst mechanics of any pro player i've ever seen. But NA junglers aren't even good so it doesn't matter Chaox is decent, not that far behind top AD carries imo. Xpecial has awful mechanics, pretty average NA support Dyrus is atrocious all around and was never good. It was just that he had no competition. Who the hell was gonna beat him in lane? Hotshot? nope Reginald is/was their only hope, but now he's mediocre too I think you guys have some kind of bias, Dyrus was clearly the best top laner in the world at some point and he's still a contender. Saying stuff like "he's atrocious all around and was never good" is just stupid. Also, he's my friend irl, so eat a dick.
I think he's got the talent, but at his current level, I don't agree that he's a "contender" with current level of Korean top lane play.
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On January 01 2013 07:18 TheSinisterRed wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2013 07:14 wei2coolman wrote:
When did people ever rave about how good xpecial was? O.o
And, if you were reading the comments correctly, everyone here said Dyrus is good on Vlad/Kayle, but he's stupid and stopped playing these champs. I thought he stopped playing them because the rest of the team (mostly Regi I would guess) told him to stop playing them? I don't know for sure, this was before I found LoL and got into the pro scene, but that is what most people seem to say.
I thought he stopped playing them because they (TSM) saw other teams to well with Jayce/Darius, and then, since TSM is nothing if not sensitive to "the meta," they decided that they needed to incorporate those...
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Well, north american teams are the only teams that couldn't get past the group stages, it is pretty sad that at least one team from every other region can make it past but the NAs who got the game first, can't.
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On January 01 2013 07:18 Numy wrote:
People just want NA teams to be more of a threat in international tournaments. That's why they hate on TSM for seemingly stagnating and Hotshot losing lanes etc. etc.
A majority of people want to cheer for a team that has a chance of winning. Currently no team from the NA region has a realistic chance of winning a tournament that includes an Asian team. It's pretty difficult for a casual viewer to care and cheer for the faceless Asian teams that have no personality. It's frustrating when your 'home' team never wins international tournaments and still puts in less effort than most Korean teams.
The NA team hate is largely from people wanting them to do better.
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I would not be surprised if the /r/leagueoflegends mods would decide to remove Phreak's dating interests; simply due to not having anything to do with League of Legends (assuming if someone would be posting it in the first place).
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On January 01 2013 07:24 AsnSensation wrote:gg she had intercourse with 98 men before doing porn, Phreak gotta step up his game to stimulate anything down there.
Is it funny that your name is "AsnSensation", and that comment you just posted? 
On January 01 2013 07:26 Agnosthar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2013 07:18 Numy wrote:
People just want NA teams to be more of a threat in international tournaments. That's why they hate on TSM for seemingly stagnating and Hotshot losing lanes etc. etc. A majority of people want to cheer for a team that has a chance of winning. Currently no team from the NA region has a realistic chance of winning a tournament that includes an Asian team. It's pretty difficult for a casual viewer to care and cheer for the faceless Asian teams that have no personality. It's frustrating when your 'home' team never wins international tournaments and still puts in less effort than most Korean teams. The NA team hate is largely from people wanting them to do better.
^this. I feel like Curse seems to be the most proactiv of NA scene in trying to improve right now. CLG is still going through roster changes, so will be shaky for a while.
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On January 01 2013 07:26 Agnosthar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2013 07:18 Numy wrote:
People just want NA teams to be more of a threat in international tournaments. That's why they hate on TSM for seemingly stagnating and Hotshot losing lanes etc. etc. A majority of people want to cheer for a team that has a chance of winning. Currently no team from the NA region has a realistic chance of winning a tournament that includes an Asian team. It's pretty difficult for a casual viewer to care and cheer for the faceless Asian teams that have no personality. It's frustrating when your 'home' team never wins international tournaments and still puts in less effort than most Korean teams. The NA team hate is largely from people wanting them to do better.
Tough love. We hate because we care. Continent full of Tsundere.
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On January 01 2013 07:26 Agnosthar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2013 07:18 Numy wrote:
People just want NA teams to be more of a threat in international tournaments. That's why they hate on TSM for seemingly stagnating and Hotshot losing lanes etc. etc. A majority of people want to cheer for a team that has a chance of winning. Currently no team from the NA region has a realistic chance of winning a tournament that includes an Asian team. It's pretty difficult for a casual viewer to care and cheer for the faceless Asian teams that have no personality. It's frustrating when your 'home' team never wins international tournaments and still puts in less effort than most Korean teams. The NA team hate is largely from people wanting them to do better.
No personality? You joking right?
Everyone knows about the maknoob dance, the mythical Misaya TF, and the sunglasses Rapidstar
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On January 01 2013 07:24 AsnSensation wrote:gg she had intercourse with 98 men before doing porn, Phreak gotta step up his game to stimulate anything down there.
Stephen Hawking couldn't even calculate the size of that black hole after that much mass had entered it. Okay, I'll stop. It's just eww to me. x_x
And yeah, Dyrus definitely isn't TSM's weak link lol. TOO listens to Regi's calls but TOO stopped doing ONLY what Regi told him to do, as that made TOO not be able to make any plays himself when it was needed. But TSM's strongest was mainly the whole kayle + karthus + ez comp. ez, graves, and corki are definitely chaox's strongest AD's...always have been. And Dyrus really could carry. It's just NA teams overall aren't as strong as korean or even many euro teams. Either it's mechanics, overall strategy, etc. It's not just "because they have gf's." >_>
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On January 01 2013 07:17 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2013 06:47 tobi9999 wrote:On January 01 2013 06:39 wei2coolman wrote:On January 01 2013 06:35 Fwmeh wrote:
Well they did, back when they themselves actually won tournaments. Then they got anally brutalized by Blaze, drew the wrong conclusions from that, and have gotten worse ever since (sort of).
Looking back, it seems that the period when TSM were strong might simply coincide with a period in the meta when champs they were strong at were more strongly favored, such as Karth/Kayle/pre nerf Ez.
I think Chaox in particular really benefited from the Corki-Ezreal-Graves era, as he was strong on those champions Do people still ride on ChaoX banwagon? I was never impressed with his play tbh, he looks good in terms of NA/EU scene ADC, but in international scene he looks horrid. He also had that 3dblade + PD ashe build, which made me want to tear my hair out and punch ponies. Dyrus was best during Kayle/Vlad era; dunno why he's trying to play so much Darius... >.> TOO; only shining star in current TSM lineup imo; usually the most consistent, and prevent TSM from losing early game too badly. why do people like to pretend that Reginald doesn't single handedly carry TSM lol TOO has the worst mechanics of any pro player i've ever seen. But NA junglers aren't even good so it doesn't matter Chaox is decent, not that far behind top AD carries imo. Xpecial has awful mechanics, pretty average NA support Dyrus is atrocious all around and was never good. It was just that he had no competition. Who the hell was gonna beat him in lane? Hotshot? nope Reginald is/was their only hope, but now he's mediocre too I think you guys have some kind of bias, Dyrus was clearly the best top laner in the world at some point and he's still a contender. Saying stuff like "he's atrocious all around and was never good" is just stupid. Also, he's my friend irl, so eat a dick. rofl "best" maybe in NA but everybody knows how hard they blow, dyrius himself often said on he stream he sucks and that he rarely could beat wickd in scrims
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