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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 31 2012 20:41 GMT
#4501
Who in the LoL gaming scene DOESNT have a gf lol
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 31 2012 20:43 GMT
#4502
On January 01 2013 05:38 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
NEW TOPIC:
So...anyone tried S3 Urgot yet?
I haven't played him since mid-S2 (and I sucked on him then) and then he was gutted so I haven't touched him in a while.
New items + new ArPen formula + Urgot though = splooge city.

Cleaver+Manamune+tank items (SV/Frozen Heart/GA? This puts him over CDR cap but meh). With a Flask/Faerie/pots start you can be super abusive in lane with an aggressive support and still be able to pick up on some last hits with Q when you get auto-outranged.

Thoughts?

Edit: Also, fuck all you Eve haters. I waited forever to be able to play her again; she deserves to be OP.

NyJacky ran Urgot mid in the SoloMid series several times with decent success. With the new items I think he's pretty strong there, but with the ult range nerf I don't think you can run him bot lane as easily anymore.

On the topic of nyjacky; Why is he playing Veigar in pro tournies again? None of the s3 changes seem to suggest viegar being stronger than he was in s2? Or is it sort of the lull between major tournies, that they're allowing nyjacky to have fun?
I mean, he's been doing good as veigar; but what's with the sudden switch?
liftlift > tsm
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 31 2012 20:47 GMT
#4503
On January 01 2013 05:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:38 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 01 2013 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
NEW TOPIC:
So...anyone tried S3 Urgot yet?
I haven't played him since mid-S2 (and I sucked on him then) and then he was gutted so I haven't touched him in a while.
New items + new ArPen formula + Urgot though = splooge city.

Cleaver+Manamune+tank items (SV/Frozen Heart/GA? This puts him over CDR cap but meh). With a Flask/Faerie/pots start you can be super abusive in lane with an aggressive support and still be able to pick up on some last hits with Q when you get auto-outranged.

Thoughts?

Edit: Also, fuck all you Eve haters. I waited forever to be able to play her again; she deserves to be OP.

NyJacky ran Urgot mid in the SoloMid series several times with decent success. With the new items I think he's pretty strong there, but with the ult range nerf I don't think you can run him bot lane as easily anymore.

On the topic of nyjacky; Why is he playing Veigar in pro tournies again? None of the s3 changes seem to suggest viegar being stronger than he was in s2? Or is it sort of the lull between major tournies, that they're allowing nyjacky to have fun?
I mean, he's been doing good as veigar; but what's with the sudden switch?


I think the vision change might help him. Now you have almost perfect vision so it's really hard to get ganked mid which I believe was one of veigars problems right?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 31 2012 20:49 GMT
#4504
league of consumables changes a lot of matchups, I don't know much about veigar specifically but it's possibly that + preseason combo.

a lot of Fizz's s2 bad matchups have been cured by consumable opens like Swain went from Swain favor to Fizz favor, mass pot openings make Swain passive garbage.
Carrilord has arrived.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 20:54:50
December 31 2012 20:54 GMT
#4505
On January 01 2013 05:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:38 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 01 2013 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
NEW TOPIC:
So...anyone tried S3 Urgot yet?
I haven't played him since mid-S2 (and I sucked on him then) and then he was gutted so I haven't touched him in a while.
New items + new ArPen formula + Urgot though = splooge city.

Cleaver+Manamune+tank items (SV/Frozen Heart/GA? This puts him over CDR cap but meh). With a Flask/Faerie/pots start you can be super abusive in lane with an aggressive support and still be able to pick up on some last hits with Q when you get auto-outranged.

Thoughts?

Edit: Also, fuck all you Eve haters. I waited forever to be able to play her again; she deserves to be OP.

NyJacky ran Urgot mid in the SoloMid series several times with decent success. With the new items I think he's pretty strong there, but with the ult range nerf I don't think you can run him bot lane as easily anymore.

On the topic of nyjacky; Why is he playing Veigar in pro tournies again? None of the s3 changes seem to suggest viegar being stronger than he was in s2? Or is it sort of the lull between major tournies, that they're allowing nyjacky to have fun?
I mean, he's been doing good as veigar; but what's with the sudden switch?

Dunno about the patch, but meta-wise it seems like the worst time to start Veigaring it up, with all the bruisers that infest mid nowadays.

Probably the bolded.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
December 31 2012 20:57 GMT
#4506
veigar still awful he's just screwing around
TranslatorBaa!
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 31 2012 20:58 GMT
#4507
On January 01 2013 05:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
veigar still awful he's just screwing around

Veigar awful. Or Sheep awful??
God Bless
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 31 2012 20:58 GMT
#4508
On January 01 2013 05:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
veigar still awful he's just screwing around

You mean carrying his team?
liftlift > tsm
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 20:59:57
December 31 2012 20:59 GMT
#4509
There was a time when Nyjacky could only play three champions in the pro scene. Veigar, Ryze, and Morgana. So not really surprising to see him go back to one of his favorites even if it's just to dick around.

Oh yeah, he plays Trist but I dunno if I ever saw him play an actual tournament match with Trist.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14041 Posts
December 31 2012 20:59 GMT
#4510
On January 01 2013 05:41 MooMooMugi wrote:
Who in the LoL gaming scene DOESNT have a gf lol


Koreans. guess whos getting better while everyone else is out with their gf's?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 21:00:53
December 31 2012 21:00 GMT
#4511
On January 01 2013 05:58 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
veigar still awful he's just screwing around

Veigar awful. Or Sheep awful??


go dance toxic graves

also both
TranslatorBaa!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 31 2012 21:02 GMT
#4512
On January 01 2013 05:59 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:41 MooMooMugi wrote:
Who in the LoL gaming scene DOESNT have a gf lol


Koreans. guess whos getting better while everyone else is out with their gf's?


This notion is so stupid lol.

Koreans are better because they practice smarter. Not because they're celibate. I'm pretty certain lots of NA teams and EU teams practice about as much they just don't practice as smart. And them having girlfriends is only a problem if they're dating someone who doesn't understand their job.

Hell, Alex Ich is married and he's like top three AP mids in the world on probably still the best EU team.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 31 2012 21:04 GMT
#4513
On January 01 2013 05:59 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:41 MooMooMugi wrote:
Who in the LoL gaming scene DOESNT have a gf lol


Koreans. guess whos getting better while everyone else is out with their gf's?

I broke up with my gf a few days ago.Should I be expecting a elo spikeTT
Cackle™
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 31 2012 21:04 GMT
#4514
On January 01 2013 05:59 overt wrote:
There was a time when Nyjacky could only play three champions in the pro scene. Veigar, Ryze, and Morgana. So not really surprising to see him go back to one of his favorites even if it's just to dick around.

Oh yeah, he plays Trist but I dunno if I ever saw him play an actual tournament match with Trist.

There has been at least 3 times in S2 where curse ran double ad w/ trist mid. They've used to great success. They should run it more often imo.
liftlift > tsm
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 21:06:46
December 31 2012 21:05 GMT
#4515
On January 01 2013 05:25 OutlaW- wrote:
Would you guys not date a pornstar as hot as her? I don't know, it seems like an experience I'd like to have (even if it doesn't last long)

not that i care whos phreak dating but shes definately not hot ...
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 21:07:12
December 31 2012 21:06 GMT
#4516
On January 01 2013 06:04 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:59 Sermokala wrote:
On January 01 2013 05:41 MooMooMugi wrote:
Who in the LoL gaming scene DOESNT have a gf lol


Koreans. guess whos getting better while everyone else is out with their gf's?

I broke up with my gf a few days ago.Should I be expecting a elo spikeTT

Yes. You'll be 2k in no time.

Damn now i know why I'm still at 1.6k
brb, breaking up

On January 01 2013 06:05 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:25 OutlaW- wrote:
Would you guys not date a pornstar as hot as her? I don't know, it seems like an experience I'd like to have (even if it doesn't last long)

but shes not hot ...

brah you gotta be like, tolerant and shit.
If a girl wants the Johnny, give it to her.
Spread the love yo
A backwards poet writes inverse.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 31 2012 21:12 GMT
#4517
as much as I'd like to further discuss phreak banging a ex porn star,I think I'm off to drink my sorrow away at the pub..
happy new year to everyone.
Cackle™
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
December 31 2012 21:13 GMT
#4518
On January 01 2013 06:02 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 05:59 Sermokala wrote:
On January 01 2013 05:41 MooMooMugi wrote:
Who in the LoL gaming scene DOESNT have a gf lol


Koreans. guess whos getting better while everyone else is out with their gf's?


This notion is so stupid lol.

Koreans are better because they practice smarter. Not because they're celibate. I'm pretty certain lots of NA teams and EU teams practice about as much they just don't practice as smart. And them having girlfriends is only a problem if they're dating someone who doesn't understand their job.

Hell, Alex Ich is married and he's like top three AP mids in the world on probably still the best EU team.


This really needs to be empathized I think. I do think that many NA teams practice, but it seems that most of them (TSM in particular) fail to really draw any good conclusions from it. A reason might that NA have too few teams willing to really innovate, and thus their strategic space gets stuck at local maxima all the time.

That to me is where "foreign" e-sport needs to catch up the most, in establishing strongly beneficial training environments, with coaches etc.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 31 2012 21:21 GMT
#4519
On January 01 2013 06:13 Fwmeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 06:02 overt wrote:
On January 01 2013 05:59 Sermokala wrote:
On January 01 2013 05:41 MooMooMugi wrote:
Who in the LoL gaming scene DOESNT have a gf lol


Koreans. guess whos getting better while everyone else is out with their gf's?


This notion is so stupid lol.

Koreans are better because they practice smarter. Not because they're celibate. I'm pretty certain lots of NA teams and EU teams practice about as much they just don't practice as smart. And them having girlfriends is only a problem if they're dating someone who doesn't understand their job.

Hell, Alex Ich is married and he's like top three AP mids in the world on probably still the best EU team.


This really needs to be empathized I think. I do think that many NA teams practice, but it seems that most of them (TSM in particular) fail to really draw any good conclusions from it. A reason might that NA have too few teams willing to really innovate, and thus their strategic space gets stuck at local maxima all the time.

That to me is where "foreign" e-sport needs to catch up the most, in establishing strongly beneficial training environments, with coaches etc.


TSM doesn't draw conclusions from tournament results.

Dyrus really strong on Kayle, Vlad, and Singed? Yea, lets have him not play those champs anymore. Time for more Darius comps.

ETC
Freeeeeeedom
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 31 2012 21:22 GMT
#4520
Fiddlesticks so strong now
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
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