[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 196

On December 13 2012 15:04 Slusher wrote:
mabye this has been mentioned already but does anyone else suspect Vi might be "Six" the scar under he eye sure looks like the roman numeral.

On December 13 2012 08:32 Ketara wrote:


You are completely ignoring me.

Here's some math for you.

I'm playing Teemo.

I got a Deathcap and a Void Staff. I've also got boots and a sightstone and a haunting guise. I'm having a pretty good day. Lets say I'm a fairly standard AP build and I'm level 18.

I've got 333.502 AP with all this stuff. Neat.

My mushrooms are doing 866.8016 damage. Also neat.

I've got room in my inventory for one more major item. I want something that is going to give me the most damage possible on my mushrooms for the least gold possible. What do I get?

I could get a Deathfire Grasp for 3000 gold. That gives 130 AP with deathcap/masteries, which would be another 104 damage on my mushrooms.

I could get a Zhonyas Hourglass for 3100 gold. That gives 130 AP with deathcap/masteries, which would be another 104 damage on my mushrooms.

Or I could get a Liandry's Lament for 1415 gold. That only gives 58.5 AP with deathcap/masteries, which would be another 46.8 damage on my mushrooms. But it has that passive and slows, so would do 5% current HP damage to the target over 1.5 seconds.

How much current HP would the target have to have for 5% of it to be the 45.5 necessary to make that proc do as much damage as a Deathfire Grasp?

Only 910 HP.

At level 18 how many champions will have more than 910 HP after being hit by the mushroom? Damn near everybody.

And it only cost 1415 gold instead of 3000! And I still have an item slot left! In fact, instead of paying 3000 gold for a Deathfire Grasp I could get Liandry's Lament and a Needlessly Large Rod. Then I'm certainly doing more damage than I would be if I'd gotten that Deathfire Grasp!


Edit:
Oh but wait, Liandry's and Teemo mushrooms don't work well together! Each second you take damage and that reapplies the effect and causes Liandry's to miss a tick of damage! So the last tick of shroom damage will make Liandry's do 5% current health damage, and the first few ticks will make Liandry's do... More than nothing.

So instead of taking 5% HP damage from Liandry's, you're taking some amount MORE than 5%. Totally crappy with mushrooms.

- AoE and DoT based spells halve the number of ticks rather than the duration. It may seem like a technicality, but a simple halved duration (re wording of the tooltip) would imply the full 5% over 1.5 seconds; instead, it's halved to 2.5% over 1.5 seconds.

- The damage is dealt over 6 ticks at 0.5 second intervals, with the initial tick being on contact and hidden by the spell itself.

On December 13 2012 16:01 UniversalSnip wrote:
has anyone built spirit of the elder lizard yet? is it good? I've been having so much fun playing support I haven't even touched non-wriggles junglers and im wondering what the spirit stone path options are like.