EPTSONIV WAS RIGHT VIKTOR IS BROKEN
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
SONIV WAS RIGHT VIKTOR IS BROKEN | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
A champion is only as good as the teamcomps you draft them in, and Froggen's playstyle more or less forces CLG.Eu to draft comps that suit Anivia best, hence why he values her so highly. The champ is much lower-value to a team who's playstyle requires a much more active mid (you will virtually never seem M5 or WE play Anivia, not because Alex Ich or Misaya don't have the mechanics to play the champ, but because the champ's passivity is a liability to the active playstyle that their drafts typically expect from their mids) but Froggen would quit CLG.Eu before they force him to actually do shit around the map. So essentially, Anivia is an extremely powerful pick for an extremely particular style of team. But that could be said of like 90% of the champs in the game. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
 You can't even bank for lategame because blackcleaver is blowing everything up in a few seconds. and then the flame happens: OMG AD CARRY only 50cs 15minutes, yeah guess what I told you since the beginning that we need ganks for some freekills but you didnt even come once. On December 11 2012 09:26 TheYango wrote: Froggen overrates Anivia. A champion is only as good as the teamcomps you draft them in, and Froggen's playstyle more or less forces CLG.Eu to draft comps that suit Anivia best, hence why he values her so highly. The champ is much lower-value to a team who's playstyle requires a much more active mid (you will virtually never seem M5 or WE play Anivia, not because Alex Ich or Misaya don't have the mechanics to play the champ, but because the champ's passivity is a liability to the active playstyle that their drafts typically expect from their mids) but Froggen would quit CLG.Eu before they force him to actually do shit around the map. So essentially, Anivia is an extremely powerful pick for an extremely particular style of team. But that could be said of like 90% of the champs in the game. I always thought that Froggen got alot of underserved shit around the end of season 2 for his heavy farming style. There was this 1-2 month period where he played/was asked to play Karthus every single game. And a "never leave lane always farm" Karthus is probably the perfect style because clg.eu is stalling for lategame 90% of the time. Same probably applies to Anivia, although he didn't get to play her at all ever since they went to korea. When Froggen had picks like Lux, Ahri and Lee sin you actually saw him going around the map for some amazing ganks while still maintaining a sick 10-11cs/minute rate. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On December 11 2012 08:29 NEOtheONE wrote: IMO the best walls are the defensive ones when the enemy team is trying to take your inhibitor turret and you wall 2-3 of them in your ult to also get shot at by turret and jumped on by your team. IMO the best wall is when your entire team chases teemo through the jungle and they hit mushrooms and he activates his sprint and he's thinking "teehee i'm teemo i got away again!" but then you're anivia and you come from the other side and wall him off. and now he's got 4 angry heroes staring at him and nowhere to run and he gets brutally murdered best wall imo darius is one of those rare champions with a strong early/mid-game that tapers off dramatically as you get to late-game. i never liked him on my team. with BC and Locket it's different but yeah. i still don't like him and don't think he's that great. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:22 Ghost-z wrote: To resolve this issue of power creep, I can forsee Riot rolling out minor nerfs to the top 10 most played champions in League Tournaments. Another question about the number of champions in league. Does any think Riot will or should ever retire certain champions from Ranked play in an effort to keep the champion pool from getting out of hand? no, but certain champions are effectively retired. rammus comes to mind On December 11 2012 09:26 TheYango wrote: Froggen overrates Anivia. A champion is only as good as the teamcomps you draft them in, and Froggen's playstyle more or less forces CLG.Eu to draft comps that suit Anivia best, hence why he values her so highly. The champ is much lower-value to a team who's playstyle requires a much more active mid (you will virtually never seem M5 or WE play Anivia, not because Alex Ich or Misaya don't have the mechanics to play the champ, but because the champ's passivity is a liability to the active playstyle that their drafts typically expect from their mids) but Froggen would quit CLG.Eu before they force him to actually do shit around the map. So essentially, Anivia is an extremely powerful pick for an extremely particular style of team. But that could be said of like 90% of the champs in the game. Remember the "protect the kogmaw" games? Wonder why they decide to nerf the shit out of kogmaw (and later all supports), but bird is still A-ok. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:27 kainzero wrote: IMO the best wall is when your entire team chases teemo through the jungle and they hit mushrooms and he activates his sprint and he's thinking "teehee i'm teemo i got away again!" but then you're anivia and you come from the other side and wall him off. and now he's got 4 angry heroes staring at him and nowhere to run and he gets brutally murdered best wall imo darius is one of those rare champions with a strong early/mid-game that tapers off dramatically as you get to late-game. i never liked him on my team. with BC and Locket it's different but yeah. i still don't like him and don't think he's that great. Darius still has a resetable true HP nuke, a sieable DoT if he can stack his passive, in s2 he'd always do damage thanks to 25% passive ArPen, his hook is huge utility and he can build tanky and still deal a lot of damage. Yeah he's not the diver type that'll 1v1 the enemy AD past a certain point, but in his "I'm tough to kill but if you ignore me my ult will kill a high-value target" way he's amongst the bests. He falls off less than a lot of champs. | ||
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LazyFailKid
Canada750 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:30 101toss wrote: no, but certain champions are effectively retired. rammus comes to mind rammus still rapes people if they overextend in lane but then again you could pick shaco and do the exact same thing but better | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:30 101toss wrote: Remember the "protect the kogmaw" games? Wonder why they decide to nerf the shit out of kogmaw (and later all supports), but bird is still A-ok. Because Riot brazenly overreacts to FotMs, and Anivia's never actually been FotM because of her high skill requirement? Riot totally overreacting to a FotM is neither new nor surprising. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:22 Ghost-z wrote: To resolve this issue of power creep, I can forsee Riot rolling out minor nerfs to the top 10 most played champions in League Tournaments. Feel like the "power creep" is more due to champion design than straight out numbers. They made the mistake of introducing high mobility without drawbacks and now everyone has to have some kind of mobility to be viable it seems. At least for melees. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:26 phyvo wrote: "Due to a bug we have temporarily disabled Viktor" SONIV WAS RIGHT VIKTOR IS BROKEN Aw, damn. Did anyone find out what kind of bug this was? | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:22 Ghost-z wrote: To resolve this issue of power creep, I can forsee Riot rolling out minor nerfs to the top 10 most played champions in League Tournaments. Another question about the number of champions in league. Does any think Riot will or should ever retire certain champions from Ranked play in an effort to keep the champion pool from getting out of hand? highly doubt it. that would royally fuck over anyone who bought the champ, especially with rp, and anyone who enjoys playing the champ. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Dont watch him nowadays but when I used to (2-3~ months ago) he dropped the "What the F*ck" bomb 5 times per hour. :O | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote: Aw, damn. Did anyone find out what kind of bug this was? Evidently Viktor's presence in game was disabling Tibbers outright. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2888254&page=2 + Show Spoiler + Going by the various bug report threads, it seems that Viktor's presence in a game was somehow disabling Annie's ult. | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:25 cLutZ wrote: Anivia is inaccessible to like 95% of LoL players. Not only because of skillcap, but because even if you master the bird, the rest of your team still will derp around and it won't matter. Her strength is teamfights, but "teamfights" always end up being a series of 2v3s where one side inevitably follows up on a single player's derp causing a team derp into a loss. TOO has a semi-famous video about this, but I can't find it. She is? 1. Walk up to the opposing laner. 2. Press R (you can't miss it, the AOE is huge). 3. Press E (targeted spell). 4. ??? 5. Congrats. You have just out-traded 90% of other mid laners. | ||
UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:26 AsnSensation wrote: Ok this stupid black cleaver stacking is getting out of hand, if people dont get mid/top they just run a combinaiton of riven/pantheon/gangplank/ bot and fuck my poor ad/supp lane You can't even bank for lategame because blackcleaver is blowing everything up in a few seconds. and then the flame happens: OMG AD CARRY only 50cs 15minutes, yeah guess what I told you since the beginning that we need ganks for some freekills but you didnt even come once. Lol. aside from this being clear QQ thread material it sounds like you played incredibly bad and blamed your team. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:42 AsnSensation wrote: Xpecial featured streamer Dont watch him nowadays but when I used to (2-3~ months ago) he dropped the "What the F*ck" bomb 5 times per hour. :O Complete turn around in his mentality? More likely just putting on a public face to do such. Good for him nonetheless. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Apparently Muramana's toggle is applied through Syndra's Q. brb playing her. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:44 Sufficiency wrote: She is? 1. Walk up to the opposing laner. 2. Press R (you can't miss it, the AOE is huge). 3. Press E (targeted spell). 4. ??? 5. Congrats. You have just out-traded 90% of other mid laners. if you are allowed to walk up and RE you are well within the range of the full enemy kill combo | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:59 Frolossus wrote: if you are allowed to walk up and RE you are well within the range of the full enemy kill combo that's why you have a wall and q | ||
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