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On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote: This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.
lol
There are now so many resets in the game that "doesn't have resets" is a drawback, rather than being a special benefit to the champs that have them.
League of Resets
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Does Hurricane give Kennen 3 stacks on his W?
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On December 11 2012 07:50 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote: This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.
lol There are now so many resets in the game that "doesn't have resets" is a drawback, rather than being a special benefit to the champs that have them. League of Resets i blame darius
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On December 11 2012 07:49 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 07:47 kainzero wrote:On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote: is anivia fotm now?
i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs too bad i asked if she's fotm or not, not whether or not she's OP ohhhhhhhh ori had her fotm-status after worlds, but even though anivia was played just as much she didn't hit fotm also that attack animation, damn speaking of which, i swear nami's attack animation was purposely made horrible to shoehorn her into support. probably one of the worst attack animations i've seen in lol, if not the worst. Have you played with Morgana's original attack animation? Literally the worst thing ever. and it was 100 range shorter...
worse than old Ryze you could literally move command when the lightning was in the air and cancel the auto.
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On December 11 2012 07:53 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 07:49 Phrost wrote:On December 11 2012 07:47 kainzero wrote:On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote: is anivia fotm now?
i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs too bad i asked if she's fotm or not, not whether or not she's OP ohhhhhhhh ori had her fotm-status after worlds, but even though anivia was played just as much she didn't hit fotm also that attack animation, damn speaking of which, i swear nami's attack animation was purposely made horrible to shoehorn her into support. probably one of the worst attack animations i've seen in lol, if not the worst. Have you played with Morgana's original attack animation? Literally the worst thing ever. and it was 100 range shorter... worse than old Ryze you could literally move command when the lightning was in the air and cancel the auto. *cough* old fiddle *cough*
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On December 11 2012 07:51 remedium wrote: Does Hurricane give Kennen 3 stacks on his W?
Yes, just like Caitlyn passive and Twisted Fate E. But in all cases it's only ever applied to your direct target.
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On December 11 2012 07:51 remedium wrote: Does Hurricane give Kennen 3 stacks on his W? The way Twitch's ult worked with ionic was that he could charge up the procs of ionic if he hit multiple targets, but 5 chain lightnings wouldn't go off at once unless he hit like 20 targets. Kennen probably gets stacks, but only one target gets hit by W at a time.
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On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote: is anivia fotm now?
i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking. exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia. Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team. Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana). This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.
This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ.
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On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote: is anivia fotm now?
i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking. exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia. Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team. Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana). This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa. This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ.
The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though).
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On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote: is anivia fotm now?
i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking. exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia. Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team. Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana). This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa. This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ. The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though).
Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia.
The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them.
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When you play against a good anivia you get wrecked by the walls and you're like "damn this overpowered bird"
and then you play her and you're like "I'M JARVANANIVIA I'M HELPING"
I like karthus. Wall's a bit weaker than anivia's but screwing it up doesn't screw your entire teamfight over like anivia's
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On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote: is anivia fotm now?
i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking. exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia. Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team. Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana). This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa. This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ. The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though). Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia. The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them.
I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc.
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On December 11 2012 08:06 EquilasH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote: is anivia fotm now?
i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking. exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia. Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team. Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana). This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa. This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ. The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though). Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia. The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them. I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc. in all honestly anivia is my go to ap of choice vs gap closing types late game cause she has more peel potential for her self and her team than almost any other ap
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On December 11 2012 08:06 EquilasH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote: is anivia fotm now?
i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking. exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia. Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team. Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana). This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa. This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ. The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though). Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia. The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them. I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc.
Well most champions can only gapclose once, so wait until he gapclose on some other sucker on your team, then you go in.
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On December 11 2012 08:07 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 08:06 EquilasH wrote:On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote: [quote] bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking. exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia. Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team. Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana). This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa. This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ. The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though). Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia. The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them. I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc. in all honestly anivia is my go to ap of choice vs gap closing types late game cause she has more peel potential for her self and her team than almost any other ap Take a moment and read the quotes.
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On December 11 2012 08:09 EquilasH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 08:07 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 08:06 EquilasH wrote:On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote: [quote] tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking. exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia. Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team. Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana). This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa. This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ. The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though). Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia. The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them. I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc. in all honestly anivia is my go to ap of choice vs gap closing types late game cause she has more peel potential for her self and her team than almost any other ap Take a moment and read the quotes.
sorry could you clarify where there is a problem? mid/late game is anivia's strong point when it comes to peeling for your AD and initiating favorable fights.
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On December 11 2012 08:13 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 08:09 EquilasH wrote:On December 11 2012 08:07 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 08:06 EquilasH wrote:On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote: [quote] That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking. exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia. Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team. Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana). This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa. This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ. The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though). Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia. The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them. I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc. in all honestly anivia is my go to ap of choice vs gap closing types late game cause she has more peel potential for her self and her team than almost any other ap Take a moment and read the quotes. sorry could you clarify where there is a problem? mid/late game is anivia's strong point when it comes to peeling for your AD and initiating favorable fights.
They are talking about Cass not Anivia.
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I miss the days when "most champions can only gapclose once" was simply an unthinkable statement.
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speaking of oldschool bruisers w/o resets/double gapclosers I was inspired by the the Dyrus "Nasus in a nutshell" vid to play Nasus last night, it's hilarious how closely that video depicts what playing Nasus feels like.
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On December 11 2012 08:15 Seuss wrote: I miss the days when "most champions can only gapclose once" was simply an unthinkable statement.
I share this idea, it feels so much more fair when you're getting chased by an olaf (who can't gap close) because you can blink/jump/whatever over walls and feel like you accomplished something
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