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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 10 2012 22:50 GMT
#3161
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.

lol

There are now so many resets in the game that "doesn't have resets" is a drawback, rather than being a special benefit to the champs that have them.

League of Resets
Moderator
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
December 10 2012 22:51 GMT
#3162
Does Hurricane give Kennen 3 stacks on his W?
Stay positive!
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 10 2012 22:52 GMT
#3163
On December 11 2012 07:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.

lol

There are now so many resets in the game that "doesn't have resets" is a drawback, rather than being a special benefit to the champs that have them.

League of Resets

i blame darius
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 10 2012 22:53 GMT
#3164
On December 11 2012 07:49 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:47 kainzero wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

too bad i asked if she's fotm or not, not whether or not she's OP ohhhhhhhh

ori had her fotm-status after worlds, but even though anivia was played just as much she didn't hit fotm

also that attack animation, damn

speaking of which, i swear nami's attack animation was purposely made horrible to shoehorn her into support. probably one of the worst attack animations i've seen in lol, if not the worst.



Have you played with Morgana's original attack animation? Literally the worst thing ever. and it was 100 range shorter...


worse than old Ryze you could literally move command when the lightning was in the air and cancel the auto.
Carrilord has arrived.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 10 2012 22:54 GMT
#3165
On December 11 2012 07:53 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:49 Phrost wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:47 kainzero wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

too bad i asked if she's fotm or not, not whether or not she's OP ohhhhhhhh

ori had her fotm-status after worlds, but even though anivia was played just as much she didn't hit fotm

also that attack animation, damn

speaking of which, i swear nami's attack animation was purposely made horrible to shoehorn her into support. probably one of the worst attack animations i've seen in lol, if not the worst.



Have you played with Morgana's original attack animation? Literally the worst thing ever. and it was 100 range shorter...


worse than old Ryze you could literally move command when the lightning was in the air and cancel the auto.

*cough* old fiddle *cough*
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 10 2012 22:55 GMT
#3166
On December 11 2012 07:51 remedium wrote:
Does Hurricane give Kennen 3 stacks on his W?


Yes, just like Caitlyn passive and Twisted Fate E. But in all cases it's only ever applied to your direct target.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 10 2012 22:56 GMT
#3167
On December 11 2012 07:51 remedium wrote:
Does Hurricane give Kennen 3 stacks on his W?

The way Twitch's ult worked with ionic was that he could charge up the procs of ionic if he hit multiple targets, but 5 chain lightnings wouldn't go off at once unless he hit like 20 targets.
Kennen probably gets stacks, but only one target gets hit by W at a time.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 10 2012 22:57 GMT
#3168
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm

That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.

exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia.


Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team.

Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana).

This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.


This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 23:01:01
December 10 2012 23:00 GMT
#3169
On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm

That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.

exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia.


Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team.

Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana).

This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.


This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ.


The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though).
wat
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 10 2012 23:03 GMT
#3170
On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm

That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.

exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia.


Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team.

Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana).

This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.


This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ.


The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though).


Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia.

The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 23:04:30
December 10 2012 23:03 GMT
#3171
When you play against a good anivia you get wrecked by the walls and you're like "damn this overpowered bird"

and then you play her and you're like "I'M JARVANANIVIA I'M HELPING"

I like karthus. Wall's a bit weaker than anivia's but screwing it up doesn't screw your entire teamfight over like anivia's
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
December 10 2012 23:06 GMT
#3172
On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm

That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.

exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia.


Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team.

Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana).

This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.


This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ.


The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though).


Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia.

The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them.


I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc.
wat
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 10 2012 23:07 GMT
#3173
On December 11 2012 08:06 EquilasH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm

That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.

exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia.


Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team.

Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana).

This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.


This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ.


The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though).


Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia.

The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them.


I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc.

in all honestly anivia is my go to ap of choice vs gap closing types late game cause she has more peel potential for her self and her team than almost any other ap
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 10 2012 23:09 GMT
#3174
On December 11 2012 08:06 EquilasH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm

That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.

exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia.


Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team.

Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana).

This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.


This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ.


The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though).


Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia.

The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them.


I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc.


Well most champions can only gapclose once, so wait until he gapclose on some other sucker on your team, then you go in.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
December 10 2012 23:09 GMT
#3175
On December 11 2012 08:07 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 08:06 EquilasH wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
[quote]
bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm

That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.

exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia.


Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team.

Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana).

This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.


This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ.


The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though).


Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia.

The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them.


I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc.

in all honestly anivia is my go to ap of choice vs gap closing types late game cause she has more peel potential for her self and her team than almost any other ap

Take a moment and read the quotes.
wat
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 10 2012 23:13 GMT
#3176
On December 11 2012 08:09 EquilasH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 08:07 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:06 EquilasH wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:
[quote]
tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm

That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.

exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia.


Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team.

Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana).

This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.


This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ.


The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though).


Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia.

The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them.


I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc.

in all honestly anivia is my go to ap of choice vs gap closing types late game cause she has more peel potential for her self and her team than almost any other ap

Take a moment and read the quotes.


sorry could you clarify where there is a problem?
mid/late game is anivia's strong point when it comes to peeling for your AD and initiating favorable fights.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 10 2012 23:14 GMT
#3177
On December 11 2012 08:13 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 08:09 EquilasH wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:07 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:06 EquilasH wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:03 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:00 EquilasH wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:
[quote]
That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.

exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia.


Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team.

Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana).

This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.


This is also the reason why I gave up on playing Cassiopeia. Way too hard to carry in soloQ.


The reason I never started playing Cass in solo queue is because there are so many gap closers in the game and it's a pain to play against with a champion like Cass (I still thoroughly enjoy playing her in normals though).


Gapclose honestly isn't *that* big of a problem. If it's a match up I feel I can't win, I will just max Q first and farm. The same principle applies to Anivia.

The problem is that if other lanes are falling apart it's difficult to help them.


I'm talking more about mid/lategame, I'm mostly talking about gap-closers like Irelia's etc.

in all honestly anivia is my go to ap of choice vs gap closing types late game cause she has more peel potential for her self and her team than almost any other ap

Take a moment and read the quotes.


sorry could you clarify where there is a problem?
mid/late game is anivia's strong point when it comes to peeling for your AD and initiating favorable fights.


They are talking about Cass not Anivia.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 23:16:21
December 10 2012 23:15 GMT
#3178
I miss the days when "most champions can only gapclose once" was simply an unthinkable statement.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 23:21:20
December 10 2012 23:19 GMT
#3179
speaking of oldschool bruisers w/o resets/double gapclosers I was inspired by the the Dyrus "Nasus in a nutshell" vid to play Nasus last night, it's hilarious how closely that video depicts what playing Nasus feels like.
Carrilord has arrived.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
December 10 2012 23:19 GMT
#3180
On December 11 2012 08:15 Seuss wrote:
I miss the days when "most champions can only gapclose once" was simply an unthinkable statement.


I share this idea, it feels so much more fair when you're getting chased by an olaf (who can't gap close) because you can blink/jump/whatever over walls and feel like you accomplished something
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
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