EPT[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 157
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
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101toss
3232 Posts
On December 11 2012 06:28 Praetorial wrote: Uh. So...what could Riot do to balance Black Cleavers? 1. Axe the health (hue), and make it a liability to buy (maybe replace the ruby crystal with another longsword) 2. Make everything unique 3. Make it not gives 25 ad out of nowhere 4. Make sunfire capes stack 5. Completely neuter the item like they are doing it on the PBE | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 11 2012 06:31 Amui wrote: For now though, if you're not playing malphite, it's pretty unrealistic to get levels of armor that actually do anything vs BC LW. Better to just stack health items in all honesty. garen can get the levels of armor. so can jarvan. Garen has an added bonus of being able to make BC effectively. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
Garens one of the few ppl who might get away with it with randuins/GA/Sunfire as a god trio against AD assassins. | ||
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c.Deadly
United States545 Posts
I think once all of this black cleaver nonsense is over Elise will see some popularity. The spell pen changes and the addition of Iceborn Gauntlet have helped her out a lot. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On December 11 2012 06:35 c.Deadly wrote: So I noticed there's no Elise thread - what's the protocol for starting a champ thread? Should an accomplished Elise player create it or can I go ahead and make one if I keep it updated with experienced player's feedback? I think once all of this black cleaver nonsense is over Elise will see some popularity. The spell pen changes and the addition of Iceborn Gauntlet have helped her out a lot. i was gonna make one but if you want to go ahead i'm not that good so who knows if people would listen to anything i say. i think she's still good even in league of black cleaver, she can dominate lane phase hard but it's very difficult to team fight with her. she's really squishy so you have to choose the right moment to dive in or you can cost your team the fight. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Though I can tell you right now that FakeSteve is already working on an Elise thread. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
p.s. I can give some insight on mid matchups to whoever is doing elise thread, but I've taken a break from playing APs till the next patch so my experience is limited with new items | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=387290 I am a bit amused how my 'last word' post makes it look like I locked the thread rather than Neo or another mod doing it. Now I'm just annoyed how he was taking feedback on the guide, but completely ignoring the "please write your guide on our forum instead of just giving a link." As long as you're willing to update your OP with advice from other players (especially good players) and not fill your guide with advice that won't work at upper levels of play, it doesn't really matter if you're low Elo writing a guide. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
tbh my main problem with it is if you want to write a Fizz guide w/o matchup info don't even bother, like 90% of playing Fizz is the matchup, not weather or not you rush Lich or not. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On December 11 2012 06:52 Ketara wrote: I didn't ask Neo when I made a new Lux guide, am I a bad person? So long as your thread isn't bad that shouldn't be a problem. (Bribing people with cookies also helps *wink wink*) | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 11 2012 06:30 101toss wrote: 1. Axe the health (hue), and make it a liability to buy (maybe replace the ruby crystal with another longsword) 2. Make everything unique 3. Make it not gives 25 ad out of nowhere 4. Make sunfire capes stack 5. Completely neuter the item like they are doing it on the PBE 1. That makes sense...but the health isn't the issue. 2. Passive and CDR for sure. 3. Indeed, but still not the problem. 4. ? 5. The PBE item is not terrible. Armor shred is just incredibly strong now. | ||
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seRapH
United States9756 Posts
On December 11 2012 07:03 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: So long as your thread isn't bad that shouldn't be a problem. (Bribing people with Champ threads are mostly for the sub-plat population anyways. Don't worry about trying to teach high level players new things. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
1) Find a champion that has physical damage spells. 2) Build a Black Cleaver 3) Do you do enough damage yet? If no, build another Black Cleaver. If yes, build another Black Cleaver. 4) Does opponent now have 200 armor? If no, proceed to 5. If yes, proceed to 6. 5) Build Black Cleaver. Go back to step 4 upon completion. 6) Build Last Whisper. 7) Build Black Cleavers until you've maxed out at 6 items. 8) If Black Cleaver count on your team > Black Cleaver count on enemy team, then victory. Else, defeat. Here's my tier list as well: Tier 1) Champion utilizes black cleaver well? If yes, you go here. Tier 2) Champion utilize black cleaver somewhat well? If yes, you go here. Tier 3) Champion has little synergy with black cleaver? If yes, you go here. Tier Shit) Champion has no synergy with black cleaver? If yes, unfortunately you're worthless. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I want Talon to be awesome, but I'm scared and need a hug. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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