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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 10 2012 22:23 GMT
#3141
On December 11 2012 07:19 Ketara wrote:
Should I get Talon while he's on sale? Is he awesome now?

I want Talon to be awesome, but I'm scared and need a hug.


*hug* It's okay, get Talon. He'll accept you no matter who you are. Unless you anger him by playing him poorly, then he'll hunt you down and when he's done the remains will be found in the sewers. If they find anything at all..

You should pick him up if you like the champion, not because he's become super popular due to black cleaver.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 10 2012 22:24 GMT
#3142
On December 11 2012 01:19 adriftt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 21:47 AsnSensation wrote:
I can guarantee you it hasnt normalised yet and this not meant to be offending


Yeah its not normalized at all. I had a silver player in my game at 1900 yesterday where everyone else in the game was either plat or diamond. Sometimes I get games where everyone is diamond/plat and sometimes I get games when there are 4-5 gold players.

From what I remember of S2, it took a good 3-4 months to really normalize all the way.

You haven't gotten out of your placements yet. After 20 games things start to become more consistent in ranked. It's beautiful.

Also.... Pantheon does no damage with skyfall if he leaps? Wtf?! No one ever told me that!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
December 10 2012 22:24 GMT
#3143
On December 11 2012 07:19 Ketara wrote:
Should I get Talon while he's on sale? Is he awesome now?

I want Talon to be awesome, but I'm scared and need a hug.


The nerf comes in some time in the next week. So no I wouldn't get talon just yet until it's clear how hard BC is getting nerfed

On another note:

Singed with swifties is a amazing. Mercs were awesome because they reduced slow duration but grabbing the slow effect reduction masteries in conjunction with swifties makes singed impossible to catch. I watched an olaf hit him with three axes in a row and didn't get in range to get an E off since singed blew ulti. Ridiculous kiting holy crap.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 10 2012 22:24 GMT
#3144
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 10 2012 22:28 GMT
#3145
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 10 2012 22:30 GMT
#3146
On December 11 2012 07:24 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:19 Ketara wrote:
Should I get Talon while he's on sale? Is he awesome now?

I want Talon to be awesome, but I'm scared and need a hug.


The nerf comes in some time in the next week. So no I wouldn't get talon just yet until it's clear how hard BC is getting nerfed

On another note:

Singed with swifties is a amazing. Mercs were awesome because they reduced slow duration but grabbing the slow effect reduction masteries in conjunction with swifties makes singed impossible to catch. I watched an olaf hit him with three axes in a row and didn't get in range to get an E off since singed blew ulti. Ridiculous kiting holy crap.

We're living in a time where Swifties are considered good to build and building Brutalizer early on doesn't screw you over in the late game, where BC is built more than BT.

It truly is a brave new world.
It's your boy Guzma!
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
December 10 2012 22:30 GMT
#3147
On December 11 2012 06:49 TheYango wrote:
The protocol for a champ thread is ask Neo (make sure no one else is doing it) -> draft thread -> get Neo's approval.

Though I can tell you right now that FakeSteve is already working on an Elise thread.


Thanks Yango, this is good to know


On December 11 2012 07:11 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 06:30 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 06:28 Praetorial wrote:
Uh. So...what could Riot do to balance Black Cleavers?

1. Axe the health (hue), and make it a liability to buy (maybe replace the ruby crystal with another longsword)
2. Make everything unique
3. Make it not gives 25 ad out of nowhere
4. Make sunfire capes stack
5. Completely neuter the item like they are doing it on the PBE


1. That makes sense...but the health isn't the issue.
2. Passive and CDR for sure.
3. Indeed, but still not the problem.
4. ?
5. The PBE item is not terrible. Armor shred is just incredibly strong now.


I think the biggest problem with Black Cleaver is that the flat Arpen stacks, which creates situations where you have a huge amount of flat Arpen after the % reductions. I agree that the PBE item isn't terrible, it might still be too good. But reducing the flat Arpen and making it unique is the right direction to go - from there Riot can reduce stats or increase cost accordingly to make sure the item is in a good spot.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 10 2012 22:30 GMT
#3148
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 10 2012 22:31 GMT
#3149
Sigh too many broken stuff going around right now.

Teemo - utterly broken
Pantheon - utterly broken
Garen - utterly broken
Talon - utterly broken
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 10 2012 22:34 GMT
#3150
On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm

That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.
It's your boy Guzma!
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 22:36:44
December 10 2012 22:35 GMT
#3151
On December 11 2012 07:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Sigh too many broken stuff going around right now.

Teemo - utterly broken
Pantheon - utterly broken
Garen - utterly broken
Talon - utterly broken

Fairly broken:
Riven
Wukong

Probably broken:
Darius
Fiora
Jarvan
Olaf
Renekton
Rengar
Shyvana
Tryndamere
Zed

Sup BC.


(To the above, Anivia just doesn't have the same coolness factor as someone like Diana, Rengar or say another complex champion Lee Sin who is very popular anyway.) She's a blue birdy.
3.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 10 2012 22:36 GMT
#3152
On December 11 2012 07:35 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Sigh too many broken stuff going around right now.

Teemo - utterly broken
Pantheon - utterly broken
Garen - utterly broken
Talon - utterly broken

Fairly broken:
Riven
Wukong

Probably broken:
Darius
Fiora
Jarvan
Olaf
Renekton
Rengar
Shyvana
Tryndamere
Zed

Sup BC.


Actually I forgot to add: Singed.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 10 2012 22:36 GMT
#3153
On December 11 2012 07:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Sigh too many broken stuff going around right now.

Teemo - utterly broken
Pantheon - utterly broken
Garen - utterly broken
Talon - utterly broken


Dude have you seen wukong? Most broken.

1 ult, game over.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 22:40:22
December 10 2012 22:39 GMT
#3154
Of all the bruisers and AD assassins that like Black Cleaver, Wukong is surely the most stupid. Get four black Cleavers, have nearly 3k health and 100+ Armor and MR without defensive items, use your 5.0 AD scaling ult, murder the entire enemy team.

It's like Fiddlesticks without the delay or the Alfred Hitchcock vibe.

Not really scared of Teemo because I can just pick Akali and eat him alive.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 10 2012 22:41 GMT
#3155
On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm

That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.

exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 22:45:03
December 10 2012 22:44 GMT
#3156
On December 11 2012 07:41 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:34 Requizen wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:30 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

tbh they've been saying this since like 2010 and she still has never had a proper fotm

That's because it's easier to play something OP and simple like Diana or Rengar than something that requires finesse and thinking.

exactly, and quite frankly i don't see this changing now or any time soon for anivia.


Anivia is really good at killing single targets, and working well with her team.

Sadly, Anivia can't snowball in such a way to pretty much win the game by herself very easily (unlike diana).

This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people are diving your team rather then vice versa.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 10 2012 22:47 GMT
#3157
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

too bad i asked if she's fotm or not, not whether or not she's OP ohhhhhhhh

ori had her fotm-status after worlds, but even though anivia was played just as much she didn't hit fotm

also that attack animation, damn

speaking of which, i swear nami's attack animation was purposely made horrible to shoehorn her into support. probably one of the worst attack animations i've seen in lol, if not the worst.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
December 10 2012 22:49 GMT
#3158
On December 11 2012 07:47 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:28 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 07:24 kainzero wrote:
is anivia fotm now?

i've been playing her a lot lately because i realized how much i love wall

bird was always op, it's only taken people a year to figure out that bird is still op after all the nerfs

too bad i asked if she's fotm or not, not whether or not she's OP ohhhhhhhh

ori had her fotm-status after worlds, but even though anivia was played just as much she didn't hit fotm

also that attack animation, damn

speaking of which, i swear nami's attack animation was purposely made horrible to shoehorn her into support. probably one of the worst attack animations i've seen in lol, if not the worst.



Have you played with Morgana's original attack animation? Literally the worst thing ever. and it was 100 range shorter...
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 10 2012 22:49 GMT
#3159
I dunno, I guess I just play a lot of dota so Anivia attack animation seems perfectly fine to me
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 10 2012 22:49 GMT
#3160
On December 11 2012 07:44 dae wrote:
This is because she can't dive to kill carries easily, doesn't have any kind of resets, works better when people would like to, if given the chance, dive your team rather then vice versa.

FTFY.

Also champs aren't broken, BC is.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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