EPTI don't know what you think about it and how to improve it.
http://www.lolking.net/guides/27343
Thank you.
[GUIDE] New school Fizz
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Adrenalin
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I don't know what you think about it and how to improve it. http://www.lolking.net/guides/27343 Thank you. | ||
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Vallelol
Germany1046 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
Updated the OP coz I'm pretty sure it's going to get closed. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
In general your formatting of the guide is confusing (your quick guide is hard to read and oddly placed, this TLDR should be closer to the beginning, you have 22 sections when ideally you want no more than 10). Your laning guide isn't even there because you haven't even started on it and that's generally the most important part. Your harass guide should be in your laning guide. Your warding guide doesn't belong at all and is just a graphic making it look like you just ripped it from somewhere while failing to be specific at all to laning in middle. You link the spotlight video when this is supposed to be YOUR guide. You have a completely random section on not raging that doesn't belong while pulling a really cliched "starving children in africa" vid. REALLY? I mean that's a point but this is a Fizz guide not an ethics class. Also, Fizz is a combo burst champ. He uses his skills all together on one target to hopefully 1 shot them and has no poke, making your analysis inaccurate and Liandry's a very questionable buy. It makes much more sense to buy another item which either helps you survive or helps you burst your target. | ||
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Adrenalin
46 Posts
On December 10 2012 22:27 Vallelol wrote: When you discuss Lich bane, DFG and Liandras you do not consider stats like HP, CDR, Movementspeed at all and makes the comparison a lackluster of the guide tbh I think it's not worth it to take HP/CDR/Mvt speed into consideration for Fizz as you want to be able to burst from 100 to 0 one target. Mana, CDR, etc are helping to choose between two items which are considered even. By the way, you got a point. What's your opinion about how to compare the items ? How could it be fair ? On December 10 2012 22:57 TheKefka wrote: You need to make a guide on TL,not just link to a guide from another site because it can be interpreted as advertising. Updated the OP coz I'm pretty sure it's going to get closed. Can I copy/paste it here ? Will format it to make him good-looking of course, but the last guide on Fizz from TL is from ages.  | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
You have a completely random section on not raging that doesn't belong while pulling a really cliched "starving children in africa" vid. REALLY? I mean that's a point but this is a Fizz guide not an ethics class. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Lr6kV.jpg) Um. That's...a rather novel way to encourage good behavior. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Adrenalin
46 Posts
On December 11 2012 00:07 phyvo wrote: Another thing is that lore/skins are completely unnecessary in a guide. You're giving advice as to how to play the game, not describing every aspect of a champ redundantly. In general your formatting of the guide is confusing (your quick guide is hard to read and oddly placed, this TLDR should be closer to the beginning, you have 22 sections when ideally you want no more than 10). Your laning guide isn't even there because you haven't even started on it and that's generally the most important part. Your harass guide should be in your laning guide. Your warding guide doesn't belong at all and is just a graphic making it look like you just ripped it from somewhere while failing to be specific at all to laning in middle. You link the spotlight video when this is supposed to be YOUR guide. You have a completely random section on not raging that doesn't belong while pulling a really cliched "starving children in africa" vid. REALLY? I mean that's a point but this is a Fizz guide not an ethics class. Also, Fizz is a combo burst champ. He uses his skills all together on one target to hopefully 1 shot them and has no poke, making your analysis inaccurate and Liandry's a very questionable buy. It makes much more sense to buy another item which either helps you survive or helps you burst your target. I removed lore/skins and some other parts, as you mentionned. It was too light and useless. I let the part on the humanity as I feel I want it in my guide. I'm thinking about removing some other parts, let me a bit of time and I will do it. My laning guide is in current progress as I play a lot of Fizz I can make some last tweaks, expect it for tonight or tomorrow. Your last sentence seems interesting. May you explain it deeper please ? What do you mean exactly ? What's your thought on the items then ? On December 11 2012 00:16 Praetorial wrote: Um. That's...a rather novel way to encourage good behavior. Good point, it motivates me to write positives things as we are all human after all. And I can't stand people raging in a video games when some people could not even eat properly. On December 11 2012 00:50 Slusher wrote: I dont know I still feel like abyssal is mandatory on melee ap. He dosent really need dfg to 100-0 even vs super aegis Do you mean you feel like abyssal is worth the rush ? I don't think so as the new Lichbane is so incredible on Fizz atm. It gives him damage, speed. Maybe Zhonya in second major item is still the way to go ? | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On December 11 2012 01:09 Gros Bill wrote: Thank you for the feedback. I removed lore/skins and some other parts, as you mentionned. It was too light and useless. I let the part on the humanity as I feel I want it in my guide. I'm thinking about removing some other parts, let me a bit of time and I will do it. My laning guide is in current progress as I play a lot of Fizz I can make some last tweaks, expect it for tonight or tomorrow. Your last sentence seems interesting. May you explain it deeper please ? What do you mean exactly ? What's your thought on the items then ? First of all, note that I'm talking about Liandry's, not haunting guise. The main benefits going from HG to Liandry's is some AP and a current HP % DoT. You can get AP anywhere so to understand why I don't like it let's compare Fizz to an AP Nidalee and take a look at how they can use the % current HP DoT. AP Nid is mostly chucking spears pre-fight. Spears come in one at a time with no overlap and often hit tanks who have more HP than the rest of their team. This means that Liandry's is highly effective per spear, and as AP Nid you're mainly a poke champ who chucks a lot of spears and thus will get a lot of DoT damage per spear over time even against enemy tanks. Fizz is a melee burst champion. That means that he targets a squishy and hopefully 100-0s it by the time his ult finishes. He has no pre-fight damage and as a melee burst caster he's not great at sticking around DPSing in fights either or he'll die. So a ton of his use comes from a small 3 second window where he's blowing absolutely everything, meaning he basically only gets 1 DoT proc on a squishy that already has super low HP from the initial burst. In this case Liandry's passive is simply not useful compared to more AP or more survivability. Fizz E also doesn't give him the 10% HP damage as much as you suggested in your guide since it's often used to escape and the 10% buff only lasts as long as the CC itself. You can choose to build Haunting Guise for the midgame and maybe finish Liandry's as your last item instead of selling Haunting Guise. But Liandry's is not core on 100-0 burst champions that have no poke whatsoever as Liandry's does a ton more pre-fight damage than burst damage. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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