• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:46
CEST 00:46
KST 07:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers13Maestros of the Game 2 announced62026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Maestros of the Game 2 announced MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
Data needed ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group D [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2268 users

[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 162

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 160 161 162 163 164 212 Next
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 11 2012 01:00 GMT
#3221
On December 11 2012 09:49 Sufficiency wrote:
Wait what. http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/emeraldw/22623-muramana-syndra-my-potential-is-limitless

Apparently Muramana's toggle is applied through Syndra's Q.

brb playing her.

Syndra really didn't sell well if Riot's giving her all these bugs :/
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 01:02:42
December 11 2012 01:02 GMT
#3222
On December 11 2012 09:44 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 09:25 cLutZ wrote:
Anivia is inaccessible to like 95% of LoL players. Not only because of skillcap, but because even if you master the bird, the rest of your team still will derp around and it won't matter. Her strength is teamfights, but "teamfights" always end up being a series of 2v3s where one side inevitably follows up on a single player's derp causing a team derp into a loss.

TOO has a semi-famous video about this, but I can't find it.


She is?

1. Walk up to the opposing laner.
2. Press R (you can't miss it, the AOE is huge).
3. Press E (targeted spell).
4. ???
5. Congrats. You have just out-traded 90% of other mid laners.


So, I talk about teamfights andskirmishes that typically happen somewhere in the river/jungle, then you talk about laning?
Freeeeeeedom
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 11 2012 01:06 GMT
#3223
On December 11 2012 09:49 Sufficiency wrote:
Wait what. http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/emeraldw/22623-muramana-syndra-my-potential-is-limitless

Apparently Muramana's toggle is applied through Syndra's Q.

brb playing her.


it's not the same as Ryze, but it is basically a LoL Aghanim's Scepter on her.
Carrilord has arrived.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 11 2012 01:09 GMT
#3224
On December 11 2012 10:00 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 09:49 Sufficiency wrote:
Wait what. http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/emeraldw/22623-muramana-syndra-my-potential-is-limitless

Apparently Muramana's toggle is applied through Syndra's Q.

brb playing her.

Syndra really didn't sell well if Riot's giving her all these bugs :/

A) that's dumb B) did you mean buffs C) you can look at the top selling champs in the store, i don't know if she still is but i think she's been on the list every single time ive opened the riot shop since her release
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 01:23:33
December 11 2012 01:14 GMT
#3225
On December 11 2012 09:25 cLutZ wrote:
Anivia is inaccessible to like 95% of LoL players. Not only because of skillcap, but because even if you master the bird, the rest of your team still will derp around and it won't matter. Her strength is teamfights, but "teamfights" always end up being a series of 2v3s where one side inevitably follows up on a single player's derp causing a team derp into a loss.

TOO has a semi-famous video about this, but I can't find it.


Thank you. I'm glad someone else gets it.

I'm not even going to bother responding to the Anivia haters any more because they clearly haven't played her to know how things actually work on her.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 11 2012 01:16 GMT
#3226
TOO jungling Trundle. Interested.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 01:24:55
December 11 2012 01:22 GMT
#3227
On December 11 2012 10:16 Alaric wrote:
TOO jungling Trundle. Interested.

Still doesn't work imo.
I've seen a bunch of people try it since S3 started.

Edit: I am aware he's winning this game, but 2x jungle isn't exactly a great example....and he's against Amumu.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 11 2012 01:28 GMT
#3228
On December 11 2012 10:00 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 09:59 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 09:44 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 09:25 cLutZ wrote:
Anivia is inaccessible to like 95% of LoL players. Not only because of skillcap, but because even if you master the bird, the rest of your team still will derp around and it won't matter. Her strength is teamfights, but "teamfights" always end up being a series of 2v3s where one side inevitably follows up on a single player's derp causing a team derp into a loss.

TOO has a semi-famous video about this, but I can't find it.


She is?

1. Walk up to the opposing laner.
2. Press R (you can't miss it, the AOE is huge).
3. Press E (targeted spell).
4. ???
5. Congrats. You have just out-traded 90% of other mid laners.


if you are allowed to walk up and RE you are well within the range of the full enemy kill combo

that's why you have a wall and q

then it's not as simple as hitting RE, is it? anyone who's played her 10 times would know that you can't RE for free and expect to get away.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 11 2012 01:33 GMT
#3229
On December 11 2012 10:28 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 10:00 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 09:59 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 09:44 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 09:25 cLutZ wrote:
Anivia is inaccessible to like 95% of LoL players. Not only because of skillcap, but because even if you master the bird, the rest of your team still will derp around and it won't matter. Her strength is teamfights, but "teamfights" always end up being a series of 2v3s where one side inevitably follows up on a single player's derp causing a team derp into a loss.

TOO has a semi-famous video about this, but I can't find it.


She is?

1. Walk up to the opposing laner.
2. Press R (you can't miss it, the AOE is huge).
3. Press E (targeted spell).
4. ???
5. Congrats. You have just out-traded 90% of other mid laners.


if you are allowed to walk up and RE you are well within the range of the full enemy kill combo

that's why you have a wall and q

then it's not as simple as hitting RE, is it? anyone who's played her 10 times would know that you can't RE for free and expect to get away.


No, but her damage and ratio are so high that she will usually win the trade. If you go after her, she will throw a snowball at you. If you rely on burst, then GL because you will never kill her.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 01:39:45
December 11 2012 01:36 GMT
#3230
On December 11 2012 10:28 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 10:00 101toss wrote:
On December 11 2012 09:59 Frolossus wrote:
On December 11 2012 09:44 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 09:25 cLutZ wrote:
Anivia is inaccessible to like 95% of LoL players. Not only because of skillcap, but because even if you master the bird, the rest of your team still will derp around and it won't matter. Her strength is teamfights, but "teamfights" always end up being a series of 2v3s where one side inevitably follows up on a single player's derp causing a team derp into a loss.

TOO has a semi-famous video about this, but I can't find it.


She is?

1. Walk up to the opposing laner.
2. Press R (you can't miss it, the AOE is huge).
3. Press E (targeted spell).
4. ???
5. Congrats. You have just out-traded 90% of other mid laners.


if you are allowed to walk up and RE you are well within the range of the full enemy kill combo

that's why you have a wall and q

then it's not as simple as hitting RE, is it? anyone who's played her 10 times would know that you can't RE for free and expect to get away.

the point is even if u get hit back ur RQ does insane dmg and usually wins u the trade, also its not about trading, her whole kit is broken its pretty much impossible to push towers even if u have advantage, her team fight presence and utility is retarded, low cooldowns, aoe stun, AS debuff, slows, wall!, all with the best ap rotios and passive in game.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 11 2012 01:37 GMT
#3231
Anyone else watching this? http://www.nationalesl.com/us/tv

Curse struggling against Col it seems unless I miss something.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 01:42:43
December 11 2012 01:42 GMT
#3232
On December 11 2012 09:44 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 09:25 cLutZ wrote:
Anivia is inaccessible to like 95% of LoL players. Not only because of skillcap, but because even if you master the bird, the rest of your team still will derp around and it won't matter. Her strength is teamfights, but "teamfights" always end up being a series of 2v3s where one side inevitably follows up on a single player's derp causing a team derp into a loss.

TOO has a semi-famous video about this, but I can't find it.


She is?

1. Walk up to the opposing laner.
2. Press R (you can't miss it, the AOE is huge).
3. Press E (targeted spell).
4. ???
5. Congrats. You have just out-traded 90% of other mid laners.


The irony of this statement is you have the spell cast rotation wrong, for anivia
liftlift > tsm
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 01:46:24
December 11 2012 01:43 GMT
#3233
Honestly Anivia looks purdy stronk but she's never free so I never get to play her. Could be totally off as I've only played about 20-30 champs to a decent degree.

Vi looks really cool. They spent some time giving her a fun personality.

On December 11 2012 10:09 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 10:00 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 11 2012 09:49 Sufficiency wrote:
Wait what. http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/emeraldw/22623-muramana-syndra-my-potential-is-limitless

Apparently Muramana's toggle is applied through Syndra's Q.

brb playing her.

Syndra really didn't sell well if Riot's giving her all these bugs :/

A) that's dumb B) did you mean buffs C) you can look at the top selling champs in the store, i don't know if she still is but i think she's been on the list every single time ive opened the riot shop since her release

I can't find the sale rate on Syndra. I'm half joking on the Syndra bugs.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Pinith
Profile Joined September 2010
651 Posts
December 11 2012 01:48 GMT
#3234
On December 11 2012 10:37 Numy wrote:
Anyone else watching this? http://www.nationalesl.com/us/tv

Curse struggling against Col it seems unless I miss something.


Yeah game 1 snowballed for Col. Also, either Curse doesn't want to practice with a to-be-nerfed Black Cleaver or they're behind the times.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 02:09:08
December 11 2012 02:08 GMT
#3235
On December 11 2012 09:27 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 08:29 NEOtheONE wrote:
IMO the best walls are the defensive ones when the enemy team is trying to take your inhibitor turret and you wall 2-3 of them in your ult to also get shot at by turret and jumped on by your team.

IMO the best wall is when your entire team chases teemo through the jungle and they hit mushrooms and he activates his sprint and he's thinking "teehee i'm teemo i got away again!" but then you're anivia and you come from the other side and wall him off. and now he's got 4 angry heroes staring at him and nowhere to run and he gets brutally murdered

best wall



imo darius is one of those rare champions with a strong early/mid-game that tapers off dramatically as you get to late-game. i never liked him on my team. with BC and Locket it's different but yeah. i still don't like him and don't think he's that great.

I had a lot of success with super tanky Darius before the new patch where everything got shaken up. He actually had quite a bit of utility by having frozen heart and misc. tanky items. It just doesn't work right now though because of how spending gold on offensive items >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defensive items and I personally find Darius to be garbage if building tanky on him doesn't work.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 11 2012 02:11 GMT
#3236
On December 11 2012 10:37 Numy wrote:
Anyone else watching this? http://www.nationalesl.com/us/tv

Curse struggling against Col it seems unless I miss something.

oh my god, the camera man is making me feel queasy
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 11 2012 02:16 GMT
#3237
Syndra with Muramune and DFG THE DAMAGES
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 11 2012 02:20 GMT
#3238
If it applies on hits does that mean that you could use malady to double the AP ratio on her ultimate?
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9805 Posts
December 11 2012 02:21 GMT
#3239
On December 11 2012 11:20 PrinceXizor wrote:
If it applies on hits does that mean that you could use malady to double the AP ratio on her ultimate?

No, muramana applies to single target spells too.
boomer hands
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 11 2012 02:23 GMT
#3240
On December 11 2012 11:21 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 11:20 PrinceXizor wrote:
If it applies on hits does that mean that you could use malady to double the AP ratio on her ultimate?

No, muramana applies to single target spells too.

i just wasn't sure what "applies on hits" meant in the video.
Prev 1 160 161 162 163 164 212 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft150
ProTech133
SpeCial 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 13300
Artosis 448
Dota 2
monkeys_forever635
capcasts126
Counter-Strike
minikerr16
Super Smash Bros
PPMD62
Other Games
summit1g9528
tarik_tv4555
Grubby3656
FrodaN1044
shahzam473
C9.Mang0436
m0e_tv157
Trikslyr140
ViBE51
Mew2King26
amsayoshi12
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV414
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 82
• RyuSc2 40
• musti20045 35
• Adnapsc2 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 32
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1310
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 14m
PiGStarcraft150
RSL Revival
11h 14m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 11h
KCM Race Survival
1d 11h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 12h
Gerald vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
Rogue vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs TBD
OSC
1d 16h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Escore
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Universe Titan Cup
3 days
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Soma vs TBD
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
TBD vs YSC
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-20
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.