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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 14 2012 17:30 GMT
#721
On November 15 2012 02:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Viable Tryn would be both heaven and hell xD


His ult is just a little ridiculous.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 14 2012 17:32 GMT
#722
Viable Trynd is just like a throwback to the days of leveling. Trynd on the enemy team was cause for rage and tears 100% of the time because no one knew what CC or Exhaust were.
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 14 2012 17:38 GMT
#723
Also I think a lot of people at those low levels just don't know what his ult actually does, they are just confused as to why he won't die.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 17:40:00
November 14 2012 17:38 GMT
#724
On November 15 2012 02:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 02:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Viable Tryn would be both heaven and hell xD


His ult is just a little ridiculous.


New Champion: Razzle

Shallow Coffin(W): Tryn ult on target that lasts for 5 seconds, 20 sec CD. 800 range 60 mana

XD
Hey! How you doin'?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 14 2012 17:41 GMT
#725
On November 15 2012 02:38 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 02:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
On November 15 2012 02:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Viable Tryn would be both heaven and hell xD


His ult is just a little ridiculous.


New Champion: Razzle

Shallow Coffin(W): Tryn ult on target that lasts for 5 seconds, 20 sec CD. 800 range 60 mana

XD

I didn't get the joke at first, but realized that it was so absurd sounding it must be a riff on a Dota 2 character.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 14 2012 17:42 GMT
#726
On November 15 2012 02:13 Zdrastochye wrote:
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On November 15 2012 01:47 Seuss wrote:
For my part, I'm extremely curious about the increase in jungle gold values. It's been stated that junglers can now keep up in gold, but not the conditions that allow for this. Does this include downtime from ganking? How much CS are the lanes missing?

To give an example, if you assume a lane is pro enough to get 90% of their potential CS, you would have to increase the current value of the jungle by 60% in order for the two to be in parity. I would be utterly shocked to see that large an increase, but that's what would be necessarily to balance around the professional level. If instead you assume a lane only acquires 70% of their potential CS, you'd still need to increase the value of the jungle by 25% to keep in parity.

In either case, the jungle reaches a point where the current dynamic between the lanes and the jungle could flip. Passing off a creep wave to the jungle periodically would increase their farm well beyond that of any one lane, and to a much greater extent than the current Wraith "poaching". Given that Statikk explicitly cited jungle Jax as a potential issue, I'm wondering if this sort of meta shift might actually happen.


They're not buffing jungle gold to be equal to lanes 100%. I could list an arbitrary percent like 30-40% but that's just me pulling numbers out of my ass. Right now if you're not killing with a majority of your ganks you're falling behind. I'd assume they want you to be able to farm reasonably well, and supplement your lacking income (compared to lanes) by pulling off successful ganks.

How they'll manage to make it not like the old jungle where it wasn't even worth it to gank a lot of the time I don't know, and I'm not completely sure that I trust Riot is capable of doing that but I have a feeling that they'll try their best.


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=31227085#31227085

It's hard to sum up since it can vary so much based on jungler type and performance.

Most internal game end results have shown that strong farm junglers (especially when factoring in successful ganks and lane sharing/covering) can keep up in gold with the lanes and often end up with experience levels slightly between the solo lanes and the duo lane.


"Keep up" implies that gold is roughly equal. Obviously we don't have numbers, and Statikk was vague about the details, but the possibility exists.

Right now a jungler can surpass a laner's farm by covering lanes between clears. You don't often see this style because it isn't worth the loss of map presence to have your jungler farmed. With jungle gold increasing by an unspecified amount it's entirely possible that we'll cross that threshold and eventually see a meta shift.

Note also that my numbers are calculated, not random digits I threw together because I wanted to look smart. For example, I calculated the ~25% figure like so: (246g/min * 70% - 154g/min * 90%) / (154g/min * 90%) * 100% = 24.24%
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 14 2012 17:46 GMT
#727
I fucking hate trynd because I play without sound so its like impossible to tell when he's ulted. It needs a very distinctive graphic or even a visible countdown like zilean bombs
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 17:52:15
November 14 2012 17:51 GMT
#728
This is all, of course, based on junglers that never gank, counter gank, cover lanes, or go after objectives. Or rather, only do those things when the jungle is cleared.

The likelyhood of that happening in a serious game is, of course, pretty small. It would take a rather large meta shift for teams to suddenly embrace the idea that they might never see a jungler in their lane all game long, and you'd start to see a much larger game-impact split between farm junglers and gank junglers (who are kind of interchangeable right now). I think it would be interesting, personally, it's kind of a playstyle that does not really exist currently.

The other thing I think you need to take into account is the fact that the jungle will be (in their words) "harder". You likely can't just throw any hard carry in there (like Irelia for instance) and call it a farm lane, it will require certain champions. And even then, if it is still difficult for them, they may be forced into build paths like Wriggles/the new AP Wriggles/the new AD Caster Wriggles, all of which slow down and damper the hyper carry build.

On November 15 2012 02:46 sob3k wrote:
I fucking hate trynd because I play without sound so its like impossible to tell when he's ulted. It needs a very distinctive graphic or even a visible countdown like zilean bombs

Why do you play without sound?

Also ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE
It's your boy Guzma!
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 14 2012 18:13 GMT
#729
I dont know if it was just one game or something but Elise looks pretty broken in team fights. Also out of the three times I've seen zed he's lost lane really hard every time.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 18:17:38
November 14 2012 18:17 GMT
#730
On November 15 2012 01:03 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 00:44 Sandster wrote:
I've been thinking of picking up Hecarim as a jungler. How come no one plays him, other than dignitas? When he came out I thought his kit was quite strong for a gank oriented tanky jungler. One thing I'm cautious about him is that his kit only has W heal to help him tank, and he has no shield/resists to help, so he's kind of squishy if going double gp5.


Hecarim has a strong kit, but it requires some finesse to use properly. It's very easy to screw up his E and R, and his W is very dependent on his team. However, if you learn how to play him well you can terrorize lanes.

Do not build Wriggle's on him. There are different ways to build him (Philo + Glacial for CDR tank madness, Trinity for sweet procs, triple gp10 for late game), but Wriggle's is not one of the better ones.


There is only one build for the pony : ghost, mobi, shurelya, PD, ghostblade :p
The legend of Darien lives on
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 18:22:19
November 14 2012 18:21 GMT
#731
On November 15 2012 02:46 sob3k wrote:
I fucking hate trynd because I play without sound so its like impossible to tell when he's ulted. It needs a very distinctive graphic or even a visible countdown like zilean bombs


Why do you play without sound?

Also ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE ENDLESS RAGE

I play without sound as well,usually listening to music or a podcast.
Cackle™
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 14 2012 18:25 GMT
#732
I listen to operas without sound.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
November 14 2012 18:26 GMT
#733
This "gives bonus armor and mr in x form" is getting really ridiculous.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 14 2012 18:28 GMT
#734
looks like sk kicking Ara is true, they are playing with another jungle in IPL atm.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 14 2012 18:29 GMT
#735
On November 15 2012 03:25 Seuss wrote:
I listen to operas without sound.

So you just watch fat people stand around with their mouths open for 20 minutes at a time?
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 14 2012 18:30 GMT
#736
On November 15 2012 03:29 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 03:25 Seuss wrote:
I listen to operas without sound.

So you just watch fat people stand around with their mouths open for 20 minutes at a time?


I said listen, not watch.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 18:38:42
November 14 2012 18:32 GMT
#737
I mean playing without sound in something like starcraft is one thing but I never found myself in a situation where I needed sound in league.Everything has a visual announcement or animation and listening to the same champion phrases/voice over get's old really quickly,some are rather irritating.
Cackle™
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
November 14 2012 18:39 GMT
#738
Lol... one of my friends (if you watched my stream before you'd know him) thinks I can't play top when he's never actually won a top lane in his ranked games and only really has gone even. I swear, he wins one or two games and he's suddenly a know it all in what he played. Anyway, his argument for me not knowing top is because I don't play any "real" top laners like Irelia (which I really do suck with) and that playing tops like nunu and malph don't "count". Is he right in any way? Because I think he's full of shit.
BW -> League -> CSGO
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 14 2012 18:40 GMT
#739
On November 15 2012 03:32 TheKefka wrote:
I mean playing without sound in something like starcraft is one thing but I never found myself in a situation where I needed sound in league.Everything has a visual announcement or animation and listening to the same champion phrases/voice over get's old really quickly,some are rather irritating.

i actually feel like sound helps A LOT in teamfights, you hear the abilities and the autoattacks and somehow it helps me create a mental, subconscious image of what the fuck is going on
i only really notice because when i play with loud music i feel like i notice whats happening much worse
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
November 14 2012 18:41 GMT
#740
On November 15 2012 03:39 wussleeQ wrote:
Lol... one of my friends (if you watched my stream before you'd know him) thinks I can't play top when he's never actually won a top lane in his ranked games and only really has gone even. I swear, he wins one or two games and he's suddenly a know it all in what he played. Anyway, his argument for me not knowing top is because I don't play any "real" top laners like Irelia (which I really do suck with) and that playing tops like nunu and malph don't "count". Is he right in any way? Because I think he's full of shit.

I recommend finding a better friend.
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